Which LED light - KIND K5 XL750 or MarsHydro II 1600 ? Pls Help

chuck estevez

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Sorry I forgot to mention that I need Full spectrum light which I can use in veg and flower too, I mean one light for both periods. These ones T4-1750 lamp from Tasty LED look good because I heard the CXB3590 CD diods are the best you can buy at the moment, but can I use that light for veg too? thank you
you're lighting up a shoe box, no need for all those expensive lights
 

questiondj42

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Sorry I forgot to mention that I need Full spectrum light which I can use in veg and flower too, I mean one light for both periods. These ones T4-1750 lamp from Tasty LED look good because I heard the CXB3590 CD diods are the best you can buy at the moment, but can I use that light for veg too? thank you
Yes, it's for both veg and flower!
 

testiclees

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LED is a bunch of claims and myths. It is NOT ready for prime time.IF/WHEN a unit comes out that does what you're asking, EVERYONE will know about it.
Proven to work grow lights like a LEC,or DE unit are the talk of the town with real world results. The ONLY people who talk bad about them are the DIY L.E.D guys who have spent TONS of money building their lights. That is as honest answer as you will get. NOT one sided, just REAL WORLD.

Chuck my dude your statement is wildly full of shit. The led section is JAMMED WITH MASSIVE LED GROWN BUDS. Even the idiots on 420 have sweet buds grown with shitty mars and extra shitty platinum. Why the fuck speak out when you are without the first clue???


OP put this question in the correct forum. I gotta question your research abilities when riu has a thread directly addressing led makers and you look for answers in theplantproblems area.

Maybe buy a shitty light, learn from real time experience that it blows and then do legit research and get a legit light....sadly that was my path
 
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chuck estevez

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Chuck my dude your statement is wildly full of shit. The led section is JAMMED WITH MASSIVE LED GROWN BUDS. Even the idiots on 420 have sweet buds grown with shitty mars and extra shitty platinum. Why the fuck speak out when you are without the first clue???
you're right, they work great if you are using a closet, mY bad.
 

testiclees

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you're right, they work great if you are using a closet, mY bad.
Bro cmon i know your not a willfully ignorant imbecile. Evidence is everywhere. Complete ninnies in good size tents get very decent grows with the crappiest leds.
Good light and good growers harvest pounds. Cmon son
 

chuck estevez

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Bro cmon i know your not a willfully ignorant imbecile. Evidence is everywhere. Complete ninnies in good size tents get very decent grows with the crappiest leds.
Good light and good growers harvest pounds. Cmon son
Solar powered tanks claiming to do what my gavita does, then when asked to put up or shut up, they ALL shut up real quick.
 

testiclees

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Solar powered tanks claiming to do what my gavita does, then when asked to put up or shut up, they ALL shut up real quick.
They are not silent you are set to deaf/ignore

Steam locomotives vs levitating train....

Your imagination and delusions vs science! Gtfoh
 

chuck estevez

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They are not silent you are set to deaf/ignore

Steam locomotives vs levitating train....

Your imagination and delusions vs science! Gtfoh
funny, i asked any one of em to build me a light that does exactly or better than my gavita
for $1500 and not one of them jumped up to challenge. as a matter of fact, i pointed out in another thread where tasty led actually admits it. look it up.
 

testiclees

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They dont build heaters bro

Build your own. Don't you want danker weed, better yield per watt and lower energy bills and increased safety?
 
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chuck estevez

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They dont build heaters bro

Build your own. Don't you want danker weed, better yield per watt and lower energy bills and increased safety?
If the guys who supposedly know what they are doing can;t build one that does what my gavita does, why should I?
 

chuck estevez

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LED can be very efficient. Tasty LED believes that a light is only serious when it can produce more photons per watt than the long standing industry standard HID. A lot of LED companies offer claims of beating HID, sometimes by 100% but the reality is that most of these claims are false. Our product pages display the emitters used and their bin number when applicable, along with the drive current and driver part numbers. This information can be used by anyone to determine the veracity of our claims regarding lamp lumens and par watts along with emitter efficiency and total system efficiency. Our lamps can actually deliver large electrical savings over HID without compromising light intensity.
 

testiclees

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If the guys who supposedly know what they are doing can;t build one that does what my gavita does, why should I?
bro it is well known that several growers on riu typically get 1.5 gpw with led. Some get 2 GPW. NONE consider gavita an advantage except under specific circumstances.
You should build one because science is your friend in dankness. @pozenn check out area 51
 
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chuck estevez

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bro it is well known that several growers on riu typically get 1.5 gpw with led. Some get 2 GPW. NONE consider gavita an advantage except under specific circumstances.
You should build one because science is your friend in dankness. @pozenn check out area 51
have you seen the amount of time,money,equipment and space it takes to do that? no thanks
 

testiclees

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have you seen the amount of time,money,equipment and space it takes to do that? no thanks
YA I HAVE ONE. It is not super expensive and it's really fun to learn all that stuff. It doesnt take any equipment. Maybe a drill.
Ive got a cxb 3590 rig and a v29 setup.

Chuck cmon bro you will love!
 

chuck estevez

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YA I HAVE ONE. It is not super expensive and it's really fun to learn all that stuff. It doesnt take any equipment. Maybe a drill.
Ive got a cxb 3590 rig and a v29 setup.

Chuck cmon bro you will love!
it takes a room full of equipment to do what my gavita is doing. and i just plugged it in. like i said earlier, for a closet grow,im sure its fine.
 

churtmunk

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@pozenn, I'm going to preface my comments with letting you know that I am completely new to indoor growing so take my comments as you will. I decided to go with LED for heat, long-term energy consumption and durability reasons. Read enough through some of the DIY threads here and I'm sure you'll be convinced that there seems to be more than just hype to cob lighting. The DIY threads can seem overwhelming but there are lots of options available now. Not sure all of which ship to you but many companies have owners that are active here on RIU.

I second @testiclees comment in checking out area 51. I've got some W90s I purchased a few months ago. The lights work from what I can tell. They're also building some newer modules with 3070s and 3590s. Here's some pics of plants that only ever saw vero29s (W90s) from veg through flower.

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also check out PLC http://www.pacificlightconcepts.com/shop/.. The owner/creater Greengeens707 has lots of well documented work on here and has contributed greatly to the LED growing community. The man also does some techtalks regarding cob technology but I don't believe one has come out recently. Also @chuck estevez I think greengenes707 did a side by side with some cob lighting and a 1k w gavita if I remember right. This was some time ago and the cob lights have progressed (better bins) since the experiment. I'm not trying to argue one way or another as I don't know enough about lighting as a whole yet, but I thought you might find that interesting given your comments above.

Whatever you choose op and everyone else, safe and happy growing
 

testiclees

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Thanks bro, I'm about to buy the kind LED, I have time to decide until sunday, so I will see. At least I'm happy I didn't ordered the MarsHydro, I was so close to do it. For the money it sounds good, but the performance is cheap too. When you grew under the K3 L600, how to buds looked like, I mean were they decent size and thick or how would you compare it to 600watt hps. Cheers fam
3 1000 watt gavitas for flower and a 315 lec for veg
Agree that would be quite a project but you wouldnt be the first to jump ship. Also the benefits might pay off quickly. Too many variables to make a generalization but skilled growers get well over 1 gpw even with larger set ups.

Pozenn i grew sweet buds with mars. The cheap panels grow bud just not hard, dank big ones.
 
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