Why do you newbs always grow auto's?

I threw some autos in while vegging to pheno hunt...

.ODanksta. said:

Regular beans have less of a chance of going hermie than fems.

Out of the thousands of reg beans I've popped I've never once had a herime. But about 70% of fem went hermie on me..

That's common knowledge in the community

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Yea if you're getting 70% hermie rate on FEM seeds you're doing something wrong

im an absolute newbie to it all other than smoking it and im not growing autos never liked the idea of them just doesn't seam natural to me but seen some great results im just happy where im at

CrocodileStunter said:

colloidial silver is nano silver. fuck outta here you're listening to sources trying to sell you things I'm putting up real scientific links. I don't really care anyway go ahead and grow whatever I'm sure it will be just fine.

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I know nano silver is cs. You linked a study that has nothing to do with cannabis and is geared for the consumption of nano silver.

That study in no way backs your claim up.

Sorry, try again.

Trich_holmes said:

Just last run I had 3 CC Tahoe's that went crazy, one blew up full on male style. I had a 10 pack of Barneys farm bout 7 years ago that 4 went full on herm. Have had others here and there. As I said before I never said all fems are herms otherwise why the hell would I bother. Hell reg seed have an ability to herm, its inherent in the plants genes. I've been doing this over 10 years pal, so your high and mighty attitude won't get you far. keep growing your fems. I do as well on occasion. Like I said before there's a ton of documented conversations with this that are long and drawn out. And reading arguments on here I don't think is any definitive either as I have yet to see any geneticist chime in. Until then we'll agree to disagree.

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I don't have a high and mighty attitude.

Look at what you just posted. A couple have hermed. That's about the same with reg seeds.

I just don't like bs and myth spread about cannabis.

The truth is you may had a couple bad experiences with fem seeds years back but state that FEMS are herm prone.

That is not fact and you are basing it off a couple bad plants.

It happens with cannabis. Most any cannabis seed fem or regular can herm so say that instead.

whitebb2727 said:

I know nank silver is cs. You linked a study that has nothing to do with cannabis and is geared for the consumption of nano silver.

That study in no way backs your claim up.

Sorry, try again.

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lmfao how many scientific studies on cannabis are there? Am I missing something? doubtful. All im showing is that is is proven scientifically cs will affect dna. for plants animals whatever. Why would marijuana be immune from this? the logic is weak with you. The shit will turn your skin blue lmfao and you think it's like water or some shit. Fucking amazing.

CrocodileStunter said:

lmfao how many scientific studies on cannabis are there? Am I missing something? doubtful. All im showing is that is is proven scientifically cs will affect dna. for plants animals whatever. Why would marijuana be immune from this? the logic is weak with you. The shit will turn your skin blue lmfao and you think it's like water or some shit. Fucking amazing.

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See. That is the problem.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035219_colloidal_silver_blue_man_skin.html

It was fraud.

For silver to turn you blue you would have to consume a lot of it. Gallons of it or improperly made solution.

Learn what is truth and what is not.

Try again.

whitebb2727 said:

I don't have a high and mighty attitude.

Look at what you just posted. A couple have hermed. That's about the same with reg seeds.

I just don't like bs and myth spread about cannabis.

The truth is you may had a couple bad experiences with fem seeds years back but state that FEMS are herm prone.

That is not fact and you are basing it off a couple bad plants.

It happens with cannabis. Most any cannabis seed fem or regular can herm so say that instead.

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I'm not basing it on a few bad experiences. Herms happen I know that, im basing it on things I've read and been told when I've talked to breeders over the years at events. When I used to look for fem beans if get the "we don't breed that herm crap"from most of them. When I have inquired about it I've gotten the same "rhetoric" I've repeated. DNA and their fam make em but I figured that was just to appease the market. I don't mess with getting seeds from over seas anymore so,no I don't see many fems anymore. Most of the US companies are reg only. No matter what you do, if it works for you, go for it. I feel like when people are spraying a plant though to produce fem seeds and saying it does nothing to the genetic makeup of the plant, sounds awful suspect

i can tell you why i chose autos for my first grow.

i wanted something that would finish fast.....i need my meds....next grow will not be autos

autos can be run at different light schedules which dont change its veg and flower time.....so flexibility


cheap....a five pack can be as low as 30 euro/usd

guaranteed fems (pretty much) so i dont have to sex my grow

grow good in a small grow space which cannot be separated into veg and flower rooms.....which means if i needed simplicity i could even grow them along side photo plants and it wouldnt hurt my autos when i change lighting from 18/6 to 12/12 etc......

there are probly other reasons but those are mine for the time being


having said all that i totally agree that on the basis of strong genetics and breeding ability etc i would go with regular seeds......but i dont have the experience, the time, the space or money to mess around with reg seeds right now......but hopefully someday i will!

whitebb2727 said:

See. That is the problem.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035219_colloidal_silver_blue_man_skin.html

It was fraud.

For silver to turn you blue you would have to consume a lot of it. Gallons of it or improperly made solution.

Learn what is truth and what is not.

Try again.

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lmfao natural news.. that guy lived like 30 miles from me at one point. lmfao that site sells cs so obviously they don't want to say it's psuedoscience bullshit. Sure looks like some legit articles on there.
"Chemotherapy permanently damaged young boy's ability to eat; now he can only eat garlic bread and nothing else"

Autos serve a place in the market. I think that for beginners they are great and the bud will be decent enough if using a proper setup. No doubt that they don't meet connoisseur standards.

There are pros and cons I guess..

Trich_holmes said:

I'm not basing it on a few bad experiences. Herms happen I know that, im basing it on things I've read and been told when I've talked to breeders over the years at events. When I used to look for fem beans if get the "we don't breed that herm crap"from most of them. When I have inquired about it I've gotten the same "rhetoric" I've repeated. DNA and their fam make em but I figured that was just to appease the market. I don't mess with getting seeds from over seas anymore so,no I don't see many fems anymore. Most of the US companies are reg only. No matter what you do, if it works for you, go for it. I feel like when people are spraying a plant though to produce fem seeds and saying it does nothing to the genetic makeup of the plant, sounds awful suspect

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Its a whole new world out there. No doubt that a few years back autos and FEMS both were problematic.

Now FEMS and autos are very stable.

CrocodileStunter said:

lmfao natural news.. that guy lived like 30 miles from me at one point. lmfao that site sells cs so obviously they don't want to say it's psuedoscience bullshit. Sure looks like some legit articles on there.
"Chemotherapy permanently damaged young boy's ability to eat; now he can only eat garlic bread and nothing else"

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There other sources that say the same thing. The blue guy even admits on TV that he made the solution and took too much.

Probably made it wrong. If the particles are too big it will cause problems. The ppms were probably too high to. I think I would rather buy nano silver mad in a lab with equipment that cost money than with an amazon special meter.

Of course it can turn you blue, I'm don't deny that. It is safe to take, if properly made.

The reason it turns you blue is from buildup. Too much in your system or the particles are too big and get stuck in your organs.

There other metals you ingest. Copper, iron, etc.

That is not genetic modification, that is heavy metal buildup.

So again, how does this apply to cannabis?

CrocodileStunter said:

lmfao natural news.. that guy lived like 30 miles from me at one point. lmfao that site sells cs so obviously they don't want to say it's psuedoscience bullshit. Sure looks like some legit articles on there.
"Chemotherapy permanently damaged young boy's ability to eat; now he can only eat garlic bread and nothing else"

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Logic is not lost on me.

There are many people that use nano silver. Where are the blue people at. You ingest metals everyday in your food. So do plants. Ever hear of a copper deficiency?

Colloidal silver does not genetically modify people or plants. Lol.

You can't differentiate between genetic modification and heavy metal buildup.

One man turns blue because he is a dumbass and it is unsafe but Tylenol kills thousands every year and is considered safe. How many people die from pharmaceuticals every year?

Don't get me wrong, I take medicine. I try to stay away from it but I take them when needed.

I don't think the logical fallacy is with me.

I think you need to really think about it.

Get back to me when you can cite cs causes genetic mutation, drift, or modification.

Not everybody grows for profit. Some folks have jobs and aren't looking for the drama that goes with cash cropping. With that being said, if you know what you're doing you can get 5-7 ounces per plant trimmed, dried and cured.

whitebb2727 said:

A good breeder with good genetics will NOT cause herms.

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bingo!

hermies are all about poor genetics. not environment.
breeders rushing a strain out the door to make money. before it's stable.

Trich_holmes said:

Hence, you don't breed with a hermie....fems are made so you can have a version of a strain you really like, without much work. No breeders breed with fems for a reason. i ran tons of fems back in the day that didn't herm. Had lots that did. Same as regular seeds. Some are strain specific, some are from manipulation. Fems just have more of a tendency to do it, especially for people who are new and don't have their environment and feeding lock down.

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gotta step your game up. sounds like your growing skills are the real issue, not fem seeds.

CrocodileStunter said:

lmfao how many scientific studies on cannabis are there? Am I missing something? doubtful. All im showing is that is is proven scientifically cs will affect dna. for plants animals whatever. Why would marijuana be immune from this? the logic is weak with you. The shit will turn your skin blue lmfao and you think it's like water or some shit. Fucking amazing.

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well, did he get the part of Papa Smurf or not??

BigEasy1 said:

Not everybody grows for profit. Some folks have jobs and aren't looking for the drama that goes with cash cropping. With that being said, if you know what you're doing you can get 5-7 ounces per plant trimmed, dried and cured.

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In twice the time an auto would put it out. I was having a discussion with a guy a while back. Soiless grow, 100 days for the auto to hit 150 grams. For me to get photos that give me 150 grams id have to veg for three months at least, then flower for twoish. So lets say about 160 days. So mathematically speaking i could get eight plants under one light of the autos and only six of the photos. So over 2 lbs per light autos - 1.5 photos. Photos use 70% more days, so the light difference between the two is cancled obviously, since photos veg for three months at the same light schedule as the autos. from a math point of view theyre worth the money......if you can get good seed.

Im not an auto lover yet, just a liker. I just think this thread is b.s. Odank was runnin his mouth again and then claiming to be some big seed breeder now....with untested genetics, on his first run of a new place, never even flowered a bud in the new house. Yet hes talking shit about autos which hes probably never tried any good ones, and doesnt realize what percentage of the market autos are taking up lately.

I don't know, yeah definitely bored. I'm a breeder getting ready to launch a seed company.
~i dont remember you ever being a breeder. Breeders have seeds and have been breeding for years. So do you mean you bred a plant like once? By accident or on purpose? My motto is no fems or autos.~to have a motto for a seed company you have to actually be a seed company producing seeds. Not just come up with a motto thats...well stolen from other REAL breeders. I don't care if they sell better. <(business stratagy lacking here if you ignore market trends) im pretty sure the breeding stock of real breeders comes from reg plants if they have that option. But from a breeders stand point (or the standpoint of not a breeder, just some guy with some plants in a basement) I can only see one reason to sell them and that's for buyers to return to buy more seeds. Great business idea, but I believe in quality.

I'm not saying they are completely trash. But I just think they are a waste of time. How many autos have you run again? And when you reply zero or less than five, read the post i just made up there again to explain to you why theyre not a waste of time.

Dank youre too easy man. You make a thread like this and your asking to get called out on your bullshit. You just called everyone whos had a good auto grow a noob. Usually once you get your foot out of your mouth with one group of people you dont just ram it back in there two days later. All i think when im reading your posts is that head into wall emoji guy.

Alienwidow said:

I don't know, yeah definitely bored. I'm a breeder getting ready to launch a seed company.
~i dont remember you ever being a breeder. Breeders have seeds and have been breeding for years. So do you mean you bred a plant like once? By accident or on purpose? My motto is no fems or autos.~to have a motto for a seed company you have to actually be a seed company producing seeds. Not just come up with a motto thats...well stolen from other REAL breeders. I don't care if they sell better. <(business stratagy lacking here if you ignore market trends) im pretty sure the breeding stock of real breeders comes from reg plants if they have that option. But from a breeders stand point (or the standpoint of not a breeder, just some guy with some plants in a basement) I can only see one reason to sell them and that's for buyers to return to buy more seeds. Great business idea, but I believe in quality.

I'm not saying they are completely trash. But I just think they are a waste of time. How many autos have you run again? And when you reply zero or less than five, read the post i just made up there again to explain to you why theyre not a waste of time.

Dank youre too easy man. You make a thread like this and your asking to get called out on your bullshit. You just called everyone whos had a good auto grow a noob. Usually once you get your foot out of your mouth with one group of people you dont just ram it back in there two days later. All i think when im reading your posts is that head into wall emoji guy.

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where's @Diabolical666 when you need her? she called him out weeks ago and seems to be spot on. lol.