mexico & guatmela finance the US invasion

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Wilksey

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Big spliff93 said:
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Immigration reform is just a matter of time & some of these kids might be treated as refugees. & unless your an ancestors are indian you come from immigrants too. This country was built on immigrants...
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This is THE stupidest fucking argument EVER.

The dumb ass natives FAILED to protect their borders, fought amongst themselves instead of against the invaders, and got over run by foreigners that pretty much eliminated their way of life and culture, so instead of learning from THEIR mistake, "we" should make the same mistake?

Fuck that.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Wilksey said:
This is THE stupidest fucking argument EVER.

The dumb ass natives FAILED to protect their borders, fought amongst themselves instead of against the invaders, and got over run by foreigners that pretty much eliminated their way of life and culture, so instead of learning from THEIR mistake, "we" should make the same mistake?

Fuck that.
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are you honestly comparing south of the border immigration to what we did to the indians?

now THAT is the stupidest fucking argument ever.
 
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Bullethighway

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Opamba wants 3.8 billion dollars
to house and feed them judges llawyers
Then have to school them
Our country is goin hell in a hurry
Also ms 13 coming in too
any teroist could just come over with them
I have a child i worry for him in 15 years
there are people gonna be able to come with them using them for cover that want americans dead
I just wish others could see it some do
yea and they will vote democrate
god help us all
 
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reasonevangelist

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Bullethighway said:
...people gonna be able to come with them using them for cover that want americans dead
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Our own gov't officials already want many of us dead (or incarcerated), especially cannabis users, and they hide behind the cover of illegitimately legislated, unjust "laws." Judges are in on this too, they facilitate the issuing of cruel and excessive penalties, to people who deserve no penalty at all... all while calling themselves "honorable," and even being allowed to punish people for refusing to agree that they are honorable.

Letting a bunch of Mexican children in (and whatever comes along with them), really isn't much more of a problem, comparatively speaking.

Voting "republican" or "democrat" isn't going to fix anything. Both sides are controlled opposition. The "choice" is merely an illusion.

If you're going to vote for a party, vote for whatever has the most support that isn't Pub or Dem. the Neocons and Neolibs are both bad. The identity or character of the mutually endorsed candidates, doesn't really even matter, though i would prefer someone worthy and honorable for the position... i doubt any such person will be allowed into it.
 
DonAlejandroVega

DonAlejandroVega

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Bullethighway said:
Opamba wants 3.8 billion dollars
to house and feed them judges llawyers
Then have to school them
Our country is goin hell in a hurry
Also ms 13 coming in too
any teroist could just come over with them
I have a child i worry for him in 15 years
there are people gonna be able to come with them using them for cover that want americans dead
I just wish others could see it some do
yea and they will vote democrate
god help us all
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Red1966

Red1966

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Big spliff93 said:
Well could be true but I've yet to see that... Look i should have never gotten into this lets agree to disagree. I think your paranoid about illegal immigrants turning america into a welfare state and thats fine whatever.

But let me ask you this if you were stuck in a third world country with little opportunity and the only thing that separated you from a whole another world of opportunity was an imaginary border on a map would you cross it?
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What part of it is imaginary? All you are doing is making a case for better enforcement of the border.
 
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Glaucoma

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Red1966 said:
Or "borrow" one and see how fast it gets accepted
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Yeah, because so many people have a list of children names with matching SSN's that they can just keep trying over and over till one works. Not to mention that if this actually did happen, when the real parents claim it and it is rejected, you don't think they'll challenge it with proof which then leads back to the falsified filer? The IRS is very good with paper trails. They don't pay in cash for a VERY good reason.
 
sheskunk

sheskunk

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Glaucoma said:
Yeah, because so many people have a list of children names with matching SSN's that they can just keep trying over and over till one works. Not to mention that if this actually did happen, when the real parents claim it and it is rejected, you don't think they'll challenge it with proof which then leads back to the falsified filer? The IRS is very good with paper trails. They don't pay in cash for a VERY good reason.
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It happens, quite often actually. I've seen it first hand.

Someone Is Using My SSN For Employment
http://identitytheftnetwork.org/gethelp/someone-is-using-my-ssn-for-employment
 
Red1966

Red1966

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Glaucoma said:
Yeah, because so many people have a list of children names with matching SSN's that they can just keep trying over and over till one works. Not to mention that if this actually did happen, when the real parents claim it and it is rejected, you don't think they'll challenge it with proof which then leads back to the falsified filer? The IRS is very good with paper trails. They don't pay in cash for a VERY good reason.
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All you have to do is find a dead minor and you can use his number. The real parents don't claim the dead child. Or use any number, it takes years for them to catch it, if ever. By then, the perp is long gone, filing returns under other names. The IRS pays out billions in false refunds every year. They even publish an estimate of it every year. You're talking out your ass.
 
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Glaucoma

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Years? I messed up once and transposed some SS numbers for my dependent on a return. It was rejected in less than 24 hours because the name didn't match the number. You can't just throw numbers on a form and sit back and relax. They check the fuck outta those numbers.

As far as the billions in false returns, without looking up the stats, I'm willing to bet that it revolves around people under reporting income so they qualify for the earned income credit. I think the IRS said they have to audit 1 in 5 people that claim EIC due to this.

Or just flat out under reporting income. Or the billions of other ways people scam the IRS.
 
sheskunk

sheskunk

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Glaucoma said:
Years? I messed up once and transposed some SS numbers for my dependent on a return. It was rejected in less than 24 hours because the name didn't match the number. You can't just throw numbers on a form and sit back and relax. They check the fuck outta those numbers.

As far as the billions in false returns, without looking up the stats, I'm willing to bet that it revolves around people under reporting income so they qualify for the earned income credit. I think the IRS said they have to audit 1 in 5 people that claim EIC due to this.

Or just flat out under reporting income. Or the billions of other ways people scam the IRS.
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I'll try one last time.


Someone Is Using My SSN For Employment
http://identitytheftnetwork.org/gethelp/someone-is-using-my-ssn-for-employment
 
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Glaucoma

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I think we are getting muddled and sidetracked here. Obviously identity theft happens, but in the context of sending illegals here to overwhelm the system when the 'system' (in this case the IRS) is being defrauded much more by it's own citizens I don't see this as a strategy that could possibly pan out in their favor. We are our own worst enemies when it comes to this stuff.
 
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