Ideal PPM in your water?

[LetsGetCritical]

Rude? I am not being rude at all, I genuinely thanked you for pointing that out...geez..

Thank you for the help.

don't worry about our friend mr shrinkdick he's a few cents short on the dollar

 

[Mowgli Ma-Fên]

True Soil doesn't need PPM or pH measurements. Hydro does

always thought soil needs pH check from time to time too..?but i'm not sure, i'm used to hydro

 

[Rrog]

In a natural soil where microbes are employed, the plant / microbe relationship controls the pH

 

[old shol4evr]

were i live ph out of the tap is 8.5 ,ppm is 296 and your telling me not to ph my water ,right. when i first moved here i tried 2 yrs in a roll to veggie garden ,shit just would not grow .i started phing my water and we have veggies and weed,so i dont buy the soil buffers the ph on its on

 

[Rrog]

I'm guessing you used bottled nutes? Or did you do a Supersoil deal.

Is this well water or municipal water?

 

[old shol4evr]

i use water and tea,that is why the ph thing keeps me on my feet fighting it,not a super soil jusat one that kelp4less and myself put together,super soil is what it is but in realty in my mind it does help until last of flowering days ,doesnt give nothing but problems till you get to that point,built basic soil and amended to get threw a whole grow with water and tea [i hope ,we will see] with great soil and microbes the soil life should carry threw.
yes it is city water from a aqufor or however you spell it,complete shit full of lime and who nos what else.
trying to figure out what i can put in it to stablize ph ,even lemon juice doesnt stabilize

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

i use water and tea,that is why the ph thing keeps me on my feet fighting it,not a super soil jusat one that kelp4less and myself put together,super soil is what it is but in realty in my mind it does help until last of flowering days ,doesnt give nothing but problems till you get to that point,built basic soil and amended to get threw a whole grow with water and tea [i hope ,we will see] with great soil and microbes the soil life should carry threw.
yes it is city water from a aqufor or however you spell it,complete shit full of lime and who nos what else.
trying to figure out what i can put in it to stablize ph ,even lemon juice doesnt stabilize

Phosphoric acid to get it down. Potassium silicate to bring it up.

 

[old shol4evr]

Phosphoric acid to get it down. Potassium silicate to bring it up.

thats all good but im looking for something to add once and keep it stabilized till i use it all,like i said the lemon juice will bring it down but wont hold longer than 2 days

 

[old shol4evr]

Um, not sure if you are being serious or not but OK.

In a perfect world you would like your plants to be getting Zero PPM in their water, correct?

Or, what would be the ideal ppm to put it another way?

from the hannah ppm chart goes as follow:
seedlings 100-250 ppm 0.2-0.5 ec
early veg 300-400 ppm 0.6-0.8 ec
full veg 450-700 ppm ec 0.9-1.4
early bloom 750-950 1.5-1.9 ec
full mature bloom 1000-1600 ppm 2.0-3.2 ec
these ppm and ec levels are claimed to be ideal for growing are favorite plant

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

thats all good but im looking for something to add once and keep it stabilized till i use it all,like i said the lemon juice will bring it down but wont hold longer than 2 days

Flying Skulls Z7 Enzyme will do just that for you.

The lemon juice is your problem.

 

[Rrog]

soil doesn't require pH-ing the water. Sounds like you've got a good soil, but something would have been amiss. The microbes and plant determine the pH. Well documented

pH balancing wouldn't harm, though

 

[old shol4evr]

soil doesn't require pH-ing the water. Sounds like you've got a good soil, but something would have been amiss. The microbes and plant determine the pH. Well documented

pH balancing wouldn't harm, though

im by no means saying you are wrong,im saying my water is loaded with shit,i see carolina dream give me some thing to check out,but i got 3 beans in soil and 3 in coco. 2 diffrent feeding schedules and it would be a dream if i had good water.
do either of you bubble your water,moved to the big city from a artisian well with good good water,this shit is fucked up thanks friends

 

[Rrog]

Do you recycle the soil, by chance?

 

[Michael Huntherz]

were i live ph out of the tap is 8.5 ,ppm is 296 and your telling me not to ph my water ,right. when i first moved here i tried 2 yrs in a roll to veggie garden ,shit just would not grow .i started phing my water and we have veggies and weed,so i dont buy the soil buffers the ph on its on

You definitely should ph your sewage, I mean tap water.

I'm lucky, we have among the best water and cheapest electricity in the country. Now if we could just fix the politics.

 

[Rrog]

BTW, for natural soil (no bottle feeding) your best best is rain water, unless it's polluted. Otherwise RO water is essentially the same as rain.

 

[old shol4evr]

Flying Skulls Z7 Enzyme will do just that for you.

The lemon juice is your problem.

checked into the stuff you mentioned ,couldnt find any detail on after entering your water if it would effect soil food web,do you have any idea

 

[rkymtnman]

checked into the stuff you mentioned ,couldnt find any detail on after entering your water if it would effect soil food web,do you have any idea

@old shol4evr : have you tried H3AD's formula for Coco? i did coco in drain to waste for a grow or 2 and my res pH was stable for the whole week before I dumped it. it's based on the Lucas Formula. but you have to use RO water, not tap.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

checked into the stuff you mentioned ,couldnt find any detail on after entering your water if it would effect soil food web,do you have any idea

It's an enzyme product, I do not think it's will mess with an beneficial's in your soil. I would call the company and see if it is derived from any kind of salts (I really don't think it is, but double check anyways)

 

[old shol4evr]

It's an enzyme product, I do not think it's will mess with an beneficial's in your soil. I would call the company and see if it is derived from any kind of salts (I really don't think it is, but double check anyways)

thanks friend the stuff is expensive but goes a long way ,i dont know though i will talk with them.my problem is you never no day to day what is coming out of tap. dont want to buy ro setup gonna rent this house soon .but to want the same problems when i buy new house

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

thanks friend the stuff is expensive but goes a long way ,i dont know though i will talk with them.my problem is you never no day to day what is coming out of tap. dont want to buy ro setup gonna rent this house soon .but to want the same problems when i buy new house

It does have a sticker shock to it. But a 1/2ml per gallon, like you said it goes a long way. It helps stabilize the ph of my well water for sure.