your not running the numbers ........that is my argumentYa I've seen some garbage weed at shops being at a shop doesn't mean anything alot of growers keep the best nugs for themselves and their friends do you make your own seeds? Seeds get expensive when you can cut your own clones from photos. I'm sure your right with the perfect setup you can make money with autos but it's not all about making money and I would rather run my lights 12 hours makethes equipment last longer
i do not even make that much ........i just run enough to pay the bills extra play cashI run a smaller op. Bills and expenses average 400 per month. 4800 a year. 7 harvests a year at 10k per crop. Extra 65k for having fun.
reallyMy goal in life is to sell my weed in your neighborhood lol. Shiit man 225 is high here
Tests don't mean shit unless u mean a smoke test...and I agreed the you could be right about making money but again that's not the only reason everyone grows.your not running the numbers ........that is my argument
as for the quality of weed that is up to the grower ......i have chemical test in proving what i make mine at (i spent the money got the tester so u could work on tweaking the feed/soil to get the plants to do better counts on THC)
if u ran the numbers then u would understand that your light timing and your power use is greater then autos
67-78 days total for the plant on a 20/4
4-5 days off as the plant is not under light at all in the greenhouse jiffy dome
2-3 days off as the plant sits in darkness before cut
70 days ........20x70 1400 total hours for something yielding 4 to 6 oz with total of maybe 5 hours a week work done
photo plant
seed /clone ....seed be same time took off auto ......clone would add 10 days of light at 18/6 for 180 hours more
6 weeks veggie ......45 days 18/6 for 750 hours
10 weeks flower......70 days 12/12 for 850 hours
115 days for total of 1600 hours for a return 6-8 with work 5 hours a week
i have defeated your argument ..........i have posted proof of THC over 20% (that one was best so far) i have many other reports want me to test yours send me 20 bucks and 1 bud will give u pdf file ....i defeated u on time bases ......
i only keep my test on file i have tested other weed .......only one close to this lvl was a nice lady from oregon her blue dream tested 23% (the weed i got from the dc grow shop was 16% free gift with a buy over 40 bucks) the weed i test for my buddies best was 20% but most 18 16% (i think that is due to the trafficking of it 3 5 days in 120 degree shipping container to get to here )
18/6 veg?Tests don't mean shit unless u mean a smoke test...and I agreed the you could be right about making money but again that's not the only reason everyone grows.
12/12 from seed takes like 80 days total I'll push that to 100 to help your argument 100x12 is 1200 that beats your 1400.
Again not saying you don't have a good setup that makes money and high thc bud but there are alot of reasons to use photos over autos
12/12 from seed...18/6 veg?
12 /1212/12 from seed...
I wouldn't call these tiny...just cuz I experimented with 12/12 from seed doesn't mean I can't grow I've also grown autos several times. You can get a decent size plant with 12/12 from seed photos. Like I said I dont like running everything 20 hours a day I prefer to have my lights on for 12 its not enough of a gain IMO. You really don't need to get so pissy when someone has a different opinion than you.12 /12
hahahahaha go for it tiny ass plant if u are one of those 50 plant to a table guy i honestly think it is a joke
making a tiny plant bud 14 grams a 8 year could do ........it takes skill to grow it giant and keep it happy
if u are doing a 12/12 strait out of clones just rooting ..........we have nothing to talk about i am sorry but u are not a real grower ( i am sorry but unless u fight with a plant as it gets bigger and demands more u are not learning shit about reading a plant or getting soil right or anything)
tiny plant is super simple just fallow on box feed plan ....that is it....u will grow some thick ass nugs
u should start on LST skills and Scrog skillsWas anxious and started these to close to the last batch. They were stuck in a super small veg room and grew straight up with minimul fan stress. I'm not sure they are going to make much of a yield since half of them can hardly hold themselves up. I did add yoyo's and stakes but I can't even manage 1/2 the branches on some near the back.
Last run I tried rhino Ryder and the 2 plants are hash only material. Still under light with very few Amber at day 90. Also got a bad pheno with the Girl Scouts i think. Yield was low.
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not trying to be a ass or belittle u ....this is a subject i am passionate about for years ppl talked shit ......i went to the shops i asked the owners if this would be something they would buy they all asaid yes just have your paperwork in order and they would be happy to take it with those numbers12/12 from seed...
try one round on 18/6...reallyI wouldn't call these tiny...just cuz I experimented with 12/12 from seed doesn't mean I can't grow I've also grown autos several times. You can get a decent size plant with 12/12 from seed photos. Like I said I dont like running everything 20 hours a day I prefer to have my lights on for 12 its not enough of a gain IMO. You really don't need to get so pissy when someone has a different opinion than you.
Ya I for sure got to many I asked the guy at the shop for 3 gal pots and didn't check them till I got home I was planning on smaller plants but I already had the clones an pots so I just ran with it it's all organic soil similar to the sub cool recipe cooked it for 3 weeks before the plants went in now they just get molasses and veganic special sauce. This batch was vegged 2 1/2 weeks from clonetry one round on 18/6...really
as for that pic i sawl now bad at all ....your craming to many in
just trying to help here ........if i rem right those planters are 12 inches(5 gallons to 7 gallons) .......the space between them 6 -8 inches
room is 5 foot by 8 foot
ok ......for me that is 6 plants room 2.5x2.5 footprint for every plant
i am saying this to be nice
next run do only 6 plants in 7 gallon planters
just try it on a 18/6 timing for how ever long u want ......then flip it just rem in flowering the strech they can get 2/3 taller (if u leave the plant there and just rotate it (1/4 twist of the planter in place when u water) untill u flip into flowering .....once u flip into flower leave them alone they will grow into place filling the area
water/feed with a drip rin in each planter hooked into tuber and use a funnel to pour water/feed in for it (got to stay organic so flush not needed) rem to pour 1 pint of water down the tubes after u feed to flush it clean so nothing grows in it
u will make more that way then your current way
for the longest time i used the simple 420 scopeI always lst but they took off and I didn't have flower room space it couldn't be done. What do you use for a scope? I have a bunch but either they are not strong enough or to powerful.
so still goingSo total its a 90 day or less grow
It's a 315watt lecfor the longest time i used the simple 420 scope
but i been doing this for so long so often i can tell from the sheen reflected off the plant .........next time u are doing really look at it u will see what i am talking about when it is milky or amber the sheen from the light hitting looks different then clear ........amber is always dark and milky is a cloudy scattered look (this is assuming resin heavy glands ...hence why i tell ppl bud candy)
so still going
just to help if that is a HPS bulb in there with that pic u need to change it the light spectrum has shifted (the number of hours on it has caused the filament to ware altering the light waves it admits and lowering the lumen output )