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itsmehigh

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The few Doctors Ive spoke with have said ingesting has a much higher absorbtion rate than smoking or vaping. Time in the intestine vs the lungs...
Every "scientific" article I have read says that vaping has the the best absorption rate. I'm interested learning the facts, on why consuming is more effective than inhaling. I find I build a tollorance from ingesting, but get high every time I smoke. I wonder why.

Itsme.
 

gb123

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I feel sorry for you if anyone you know ever gets cancer.....

again as you dont understand...

you are taking about getting high lmao
 

itsmehigh

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I feel sorry for you if anyone you know ever gets cancer.....

again as you dont understand...

you are taking about getting high lmao
Don't feel sorry for me, I've lost my mom to cancer and I'm loosing my dad as we speak. The biggest reason I'm into "medical marijuana" was to help my mom with her last days on this planet. Cannabis had no affect with my dads lymphoma.

Getting high is simply a side effect, you saying that vaping is not medicinal? A 1000mg dab isn't as effective as 1000mg edible? Why?

Itsme
 

itsmehigh

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The few Doctors Ive spoke with have said ingesting has a much higher absorbtion rate than smoking or vaping. Time in the intestine vs the lungs...
Science. The problem with most doctors is they aren't educated in cannabis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16237477

"THC bioavailability averages 30%. With a 3.55% THC cigarette, a peak plasma level of 152±86.3 ng/mL occured approximately 10 min after inhalation. Oral THC, on the other hand, is only 4% to 12% bioavailable and absorption is highly variable."

I believe that vaping has the highest absorption rate, from the information I researched.

Itsme.
 

gb123

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I lost my dad in three months to the same cancer I killed in me ..that was over 6 years ago
Sorry about your mom. It does not work for everyone sadly...
but..he should be ingesting it not vaping it and as much as he can get into himself..sups as well..
but hey you dont need to hear that from me.
mom died from cancer as well... many years ago

cancer sucks..so I try and help other rather than say IT DOESNT WORK and vaping it does,,,
geeesus dude

have anything more youd like to compare?
 
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itsmehigh

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I lost my dad in three months to the same cancer I killed in me ..that was over 6 years ago
Sorry you cant help your mom. It does not work for everyone sadly...
but..she should be ingesting it not vaping it and as much as she can get into herself..sups as well..
but hey you dont need to hear that from me.
mom died from cancer as well... many years ago

cancer sucks..so I try and help other rather than say IT DOESNT WORK and vaping it does,,,
geeesus dude
I never said any of that. Don't put words in my mouth.

Science tells me that taking it orraly is less effective for the bioavailability and absorption rates. You say otherwise. Supositories, sublingual and inhalation all have better delivery to the bloodstream. The ph in your stomach is a hostile environment for cannibinoids, resulting in less effectiveness. This is what I understand from google. I'm interested in your claim, please refer your source. If I'm wrong, I got no problem admitting my lack of knowlage.

Itsme
 

doingdishes

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I never said any of that. Don't put words in my mouth.

Science tells me that taking it orraly is less effective for the bioavailability and absorption rates. You say otherwise. Supositories, sublingual and inhalation all have better delivery to the bloodstream. The ph in your stomach is a hostile environment for cannibinoids, resulting in less effectiveness. This is what I understand from google. I'm interested in your claim, please refer your source. If I'm wrong, I got no problem admitting my lack of knowlage.

Itsme
it's not a "scientific" quote but Rick Simpson himself advocates ingesting his oil over smoking or vaping.
due to my own experience, edibles do a better job on the body.
if I did a 1000ml dab, i'd cough most of it out and have it wasted but if i ate that same 1000ml, I'm not losing any of it
i only get a "buzz" when i use concentrates. i can "feel" the edible as my pain lessens but it doesn't do the same when i smoke.
everyone has their preference
 

The Hippy

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I never said any of that. Don't put words in my mouth.

Science tells me that taking it orraly is less effective for the bioavailability and absorption rates. You say otherwise. Supositories, sublingual and inhalation all have better delivery to the bloodstream. The ph in your stomach is a hostile environment for cannibinoids, resulting in less effectiveness. This is what I understand from google. I'm interested in your claim, please refer your source. If I'm wrong, I got no problem admitting my lack of knowlage.

Itsme
I'm sorry to hear that about your Dad...hopefully things go easy for him and your family. All the best on that very stressful ordeal you are going through.
 

Big_Lou

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What about taint marijuana, though? One time wifey made a quick stash in a public restroom, and, well.....
 

CalyxCrusher

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Link your scientific source, educate me on the common cold. Far as I can tell from reading medical journals, is that vitamin c "may" help in the duration of the cold. Key word is "may" help. There's been no conclusive data to support the claim that it prevents or treats the common cold. It's been studied for decades, with no concrete proof.

Itsme.
Getting high is simply a side effect, you saying that vaping is not medicinal? A 1000mg dab isn't as effective as 1000mg edible? Why?

Itsme
Because it is converted by the liver and stays in your blood stream. Dabs cross the blood brain barrier more quickly but don't last as long. And for the record the highest rate of absorption is through suppositories.
 

zoic

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Because it is converted by the liver and stays in your blood stream. Dabs cross the blood brain barrier more quickly but don't last as long. And for the record the highest rate of absorption is through suppositories.
Spot on CC. I eat three lower dose cookies per day. It gives me great long lasting relief all day from some of my MS symptoms. When my pain level gets to high from muscle clenching I smoke, for instant short term relief. Every medication has a bell curve for efficacy. Eating makes the curve longer. Why do you think prescriptions often have a take X many times a day.

When I can manage it financially I plan to make enough CO to shoot for complete long lasting remission. I am shooting for a two month supply and will be taking a higher dose to kick of the parade. My hope it to reset my immune system and get back to a normal life. A hail mary no doubt, but there is some anecdotal evidence indicating this is possible, including but not limited to the Rick Simpson stories.
 

CalyxCrusher

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Spot on CC. I eat three lower dose cookies per day. It gives me great long lasting relief all day from some of my MS symptoms. When my pain level gets to high from muscle clenching I smoke, for instant short term relief. Every medication has a bell curve for efficacy. Eating makes the curve longer. Why do you think prescriptions often have a take X many times a day.

When I can manage it financially I plan to make enough CO to shoot for complete long lasting remission. I am shooting for a two month supply and will be taking a higher dose to kick of the parade. My hope it to reset my immune system and get back to a normal life. A hail mary no doubt, but there is some anecdotal evidence indicating this is possible, including but not limited to the Rick Simpson stories.
I saw a video the night before last about stem cell treatment for Primary Progressive MS. 70% success rate and climbing as research continues
 

gb123

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STEM CELLS??? but thats shits expensive,

,,and THC is CHEAP!! ;)

oh and they cant use something thats cheap that ANYONE CAN MAKE!!!

LMAOROTFF this stuff is just right out in left field!!!
 

zoic

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I saw a video the night before last about stem cell treatment for Primary Progressive MS. 70% success rate and climbing as research continues
Was this for the new vaccine created using your own stem cells, or the one where they take stem cells, nuke your t-cells then reset the immune system by reintroducing your stems cells. On the latte,r Freedman at the MS clinic has done 45 trials with one person dying over 10 years. Epic results, but I am over 50 so I cannot get this treatment in Canada. I could get this treatment in Russia, Mexico, Israel for $50,000 US.

Anyway, back on topic. It is sad that so little care was taken by some LP's, but even far sadder that they will not admit how it happened. HC really needs to enforce the regulations and testing vehemently is a must, to ensure ALL Canadians have access to a safe medicine
 

CalyxCrusher

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STEM CELLS??? but thats shits expensive,

,,and THC is CHEAP!! ;)

oh and they cant use something thats cheap that ANYONE CAN MAKE!!!

LMAOROTFF this stuff is just right out in left field!!!
Except stem cells work and THC manages. Stem cells are used to grow a new unaffected immune system. No need to deny scientific FACT. Dont be an ass
 

zoic

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STEM CELLS??? but thats shits expensive,

,,and THC is CHEAP!! ;)

oh and they cant use something thats cheap that ANYONE CAN MAKE!!!

LMAOROTFF this stuff is just right out in left field!!!
It remains to be seen if a can use cannabis oil to reset my immune system, but I am sure as hell going to try. If it works I will the first one to shout it out everywhere, waiving my arms wildly if necessary to get peoples attention. I figure the worst the could happen is I might get really stoned. :mrgreen:
 

CalyxCrusher

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Was this for the new vaccine created using your own stem cells, or the one where they take stem cells, nuke your t-cells then reset the immune system by reintroducing your stems cells. On the latte,r Freedman at the MS clinic has done 45 trials with one person dying over 10 years. Epic results, but I am over 50 so I cannot get this treatment in Canada. I could get this treatment in Russia, Mexico, Israel for $50,000 US.

Anyway, back on topic. It is sad that so little care was taken by some LP's, but even far sadder that they will not admit how it happened. HC really needs to enforce the regulations and testing vehemently is a must, to ensure ALL Canadians have access to a safe medicine
Yep option B. Freedman is a fucken knob, wont touch ya unless you positively benefit his research. Hes affraid to strike out once in awhile
 

gb123

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Except stem cells work and THC manages. Stem cells are used to grow a new unaffected immune system. No need to deny scientific FACT. Dont be an ass
well Im sure they could come up with somthign using Cannabis was my point... lol
Stem cell treatment has been around for a while now...
there are a few good treatments out there but they cost an arm and a leg...but ya have to remember it COSTS LIVES TO DO IT THEIR WAY!!!
no ass needed here.. (: just misunderstood sometimes lol
and.... THC did kill a stage 4 recurrent 8 cm tumor with metastasis to the liver as well. :-D
and it was CHEAP was my point..
see,no ass needed ;)
 

CalyxCrusher

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It remains to be seen if a can use cannabis oil to reset my immune system, but I am sure as hell going to try. If it works I will the first one to shout it out everywhere, waiving my arms wildly if necessary to get peoples attention. I figure the worst the could happen is I might get really stoned. :mrgreen:
In my experience it has helped put me into remission, but does nothing as far as ridding you of MS. It will reduce times between flare ups, but plaque growth still occurs. Now on the bright side, i havent needed any of the 15 pills a day PLUS my three weekly injections since Nov 2011. So ill stick to what im doing :bigjoint:
 
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