giglewigle
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i sent a message to the brass think it got deleted
amazing how one thing makes that big of a difference
i think it was because it gradually fell towards the end of flower when the lime ran out because of frequent waterings of 6.0-6.5 ph. that's my hypothesis.
lower pH's will definitely get you some color changes as nutrient availability will be not as great (particularly with your staples, N, P, K, Ca, Mg, and S), but i know living things can adjust and make micro-pH-climates in the soil to increase availability. but as long as you're not above 7 things should be relatively fine to a certain extent.
Maybe I missed it, what do you guys use for cover crops usually?
This is true. Any one thing can initiate a domino effect, good or bad, really .. Lets look back to biochar for a second, even 1% can have huge impacts.. check the whole link out here (all).. which has references to a couple studies.. one from Washington state University, you might like.
https://www.airterra.ca/the-soilmatrix-library/
In organics, its true, I have always used coco, RO, and at least one liming agent I suppose too, since eggshells shouldn't be neglected, per se, true, but yeah, peat free, and higher ph water if neutral is considered higher, might help more than we know too... and then we introduced compost and lots humus too from the get go, too, so just never ever had to worry about ph.
But now, looking at investing in a commercial soil operation / education (like you!) , and wanting to do more passive gardening, which I suppose go hand in hand.. gonna take a look at these different bases, so one can leave them in a wicking situation, and see how the bases perform.. just gonna fill a table with the same clones and see which row does better really... then can compare the top two winning rows a bit more.. and by row I just mean each row in the table having a few plants with the exact same recipe blend going against clones in other rows with blend tweaks.
Suppose want to see wicking potential more than anything as we prep to switch over to sip and bed models for the future, but also, to see if peat becomes a favourable option for myself, haha, since its so abundant in Canada and coir is technically from more tropical climates and makes less sense if doing large of amounts of soil..not to mention the gramps owns a glacial peat moraine, so may as well get familiar!!
Can be sure to keep you in the loop, no problem.. with your schooling your input is getting savage and we really do appreciate it.
The bulk of my what 5k pics or so are at a quite the neutral ph really, but the interesting thing is, is that anthocyanin can express itself in 4 different hues, based all on ph.. so I hear you on the point you make, you're right, but I'm actually talking about colour in the hypodermal cells in the trichomes itself, as well as the secretory cells.. these 2 groups of cells along with the basal cell have been my favourite thing to focus on.. and "penetrate"..
So I don't mean colours of plants overall or leaf tissue in other words, just to clarify! & on the topic of being off topic, one of the hardest to capture hues I need to capture does requires a more alkaline ph, if you can believe it, so here's to walking the line.. I might need some luck with that one.
Amazing how the plant can adjust though, yes. Its fascinating. I swear this plant is smarter than us..or me anyway! haha
For those who haven't seen the slide, this is what I'm referring to by the way...
In summary, add that lime if you peat'ing it up, and let me see what happens with the trails..and get back to you Jah'll..
Blaze & bless up!
seems like a pretty decent deal @DonTesla .... probably gonna get this pretty soon and increase diversity. Gonna make some biochar too. Going to get a bag of natural wood chunk charcoal this weekend and smash some up and get charging. also gonna start putting the char in my compost too. do you add char to your worm bin? i wouldn't see it as necessary since there is no run off in the worm bin.
i'm more of a mulcher than a cover crop guy. i've tried them before but the cannabis grows faster than the cover crops and ends up shading them out before they even really develop much. IMO cover crops are better if you're giving your no-til a resting period, but want to keep the soil active with plants. then you can "till in/turnover" your cover crop, mulch it, and let them break down into humus.
what i like about mulching is that is slows evaporation of the soil (which cover crops would appear to increase it given the transpiring plants), and mulch also allows the cannabis roots to grow into the upper most regions of the soil horizon because it blocks out all light, and keeps that layer moist.
also to note, anytime i've used a cover crop with clover, the damn mites find that shit. they somehow make their way from the outdoors into my basement, and end up on the clover! my basement is not the most sealed environment by any means lol, so if you have a good fortress then clover may not cause this issue for you. the clover must give off a pheromone or something that the mites can detect, just as the cucumber beetle does with cucurbit family plants.
In an addendum, another benefit of mulch is that it inputs nutrients for cycling into the soil and form there into the plant, which is especially desirable when you're looking to establish a no-till system. Here, I have found having a base mulch, say of hay, and then gradually adding different kinds of plant materials over time to be very beneficial. In example, my latest additions were a small handful of autumn leaves, a handful of straw, any leaves I pluck off the cannabis, a bit of comfrey leaf, some chopped kale, and fresh leaf of probably nitrogen-fixing bean.
How I can add leaf of bean in midwinter?
It's a companion that sprouted of itself in one of my pots alongside the Mephisto Cosmic Queen I was sprouting in there.
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It's become quite a nuisance too, but that's great, it makes it easier for me to keep plucking plant material off her and giving it to all 3 of the plants I have going in there, and even to my pot of comfrey (which has sprouted a chili too - probably a pod from my 3 year old chili plant fell in there while they were sitting side by side haha, so I can skip trying to propagate her - it's done lol)
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Note how I'm letting the comfrey grow out those flowers - they'll be made into a flowering juice as soon as it's fully a-bloomin' (and will be picking off flowers and beans off the bean too). Juices for quicker cycling, pretty frequent addition of small amounts of mulch for slow and solid foundations.
So for this kind of maintenance, I'm finding it great to have companion plants in my system!
Borage really works nicely for this kind of feeding from the side too!
Of course, you need to have your soil critters (especially also the worms) in place to process that, and top watering helps move the mulch along towards decomposition too.
And you need to be in a situation where you're there to do that constant mulching too, since we're indoors and it won't just fall to the ground from above, be swept in by the wind, be crushed by a deer's hoof, lost from a bird's beak, pooped by a hedgehog... you've gotten my meaning a long time ago but I can't stop haha
So there will always be a bunch of factors that make or break the usefulness of a thing too!
Especially when you're dealing with natural processes, it aaaall depends!
Cheers!
seems like a pretty decent deal @DonTesla .... probably gonna get this pretty soon and increase diversity. Gonna make some biochar too. Going to get a bag of natural wood chunk charcoal this weekend and smash some up and get charging. also gonna start putting the char in my compost too. do you add char to your worm bin? i wouldn't see it as necessary since there is no run off in the worm bin.
Where's this at? I'm having a hard time finding the rocks, mainly flour everywhere
grow organic.com
I just pulled an all nighter getting ready for a big activist trip, first ever! so I will respond when I'm back in the office k guys! Some great convo going on, be sure to keep it up while I'm away.. I should be back in a week, but I will be checking all the emails often, as per usual, and here too if I can, every few days.
Appreciate you guys giving your input and the reasoning behind doing things.. storing fresh VC and worm castings is a bit of an art for sure, as is mulching.. so thanks again!
Have a great week everyone..
Talk more soon!!!
Hey and you have a great week out there!! Tell it to them how it is!I just pulled an all nighter getting ready for a big activist trip, first ever! so I will respond when I'm back in the office k guys! Some great convo going on, be sure to keep it up while I'm away.. I should be back in a week, but I will be checking all the emails often, as per usual, and here too if I can, every few days.
Appreciate you guys giving your input and the reasoning behind doing things.. storing fresh VC and worm castings is a bit of an art for sure, as is mulching.. so thanks again!
Have a great week everyone..
Talk more soon!!!
agree with all of this. Thanks for rounding out my mulching reasoning, i def forgot to mention the breakdown and how it keeps the cycling going and so on. I chop all my plant stems for mulch into smaller chunks and that's my "woody" material... i don't have the means to check and see, but i'm hoping that it's contributing to the fungal populations of the soil. maybe its just bacterial food.. i dunno! but yeah i mulch pretty much anything i canand yes, we definitely have soil critters for breaking down and cycling!
I started a little borage patch outside a couple years ago in my strawberries. Last two years i basically left it all alone and just let it seed seed seed seed.... this year... i'm going to harvesting a lot of leaves for borage meal! Should be a great addition to the soil mix and top dresses. Over the next couple years i'm going to focus on producing more of my amendments if i can. I tried getting some comfrey going last year but the root did not take, and i just never got around to ordering another. this year, i will definitely order again and hopefully it will work out.
as for storing the worm castings... i just had the notion that i needed to dry them out a bit after harvest. so i would lay out a piece of plastic, and spread them out and let them just aerate for a couple days. not go completely dry by any means... but just enough to lose that feeling that if i stored them in plastic bag they would go anaerobic.