Watering?! *PICS*

[icurbyou]

ok, ill take pics of it everyday for 5 days with no watering.

Last watered Oct 25th 6pm

 

[greenleaftoker]

Sounds good, and keep a schedule on your computer.. I have one on word with just basic days and dates, and I record everytime I water or transplant or whatever, and the next time something goes wrong, you can look back in your schedule and analyse what might have caused it.

Goodluck... I'll keep watchin

 

[icurbyou]

Currently: 5:35pm, Oct 26
Last water: October 25th 6pm
Time passed since last watering: 23.5 hours

I'll admit they are looking better than the last time, in the sense that the top cluster of leaves on the left plant are pointing up (which is it's natural stance) and the top cluster of leaves on the one on the right are sticking more out, than down (which is it's natural stance).

I will take another shot tonight at around 11pm. So we can see if the progress increases or decreases by that time.

The one on the left's dirt. Lookin a little dry, but not so dry that I would feel the need to water.

The one on the right's dirt, damp and definitely wouldnt feel the need to water it

 

[greenleaftoker]

Glad you're keeping track of everything.

The plant's looking good, and if watering was the issue.. then a few days and your plant should be back up.
Just make sure you have a 6 day gap in between each flush.

Cheers.

 

[icurbyou]

Describe the difference between FLUSH and WATER to me...

I have been reading all over that people say you should water until the water leaks out of all of the drain holes in the bottom of the pot.

I take it thats "flushing" to you. So, how much should I water (when I do need to)?

 

[greenleaftoker]

Something about the way you talk doesn't seem too friendly.

But anyways if you did your share of the research, you would know that the forum has a list of vocab for those not aware of terms related to growing. But here is what flushing means.
Flush - the act of cleansing a plant’s roots of nutrients and contaminants by giving the plant large amounts of water (usually equal to 3 times the volume of soil the plant is in).
And I hope you realise that's gonna drain through.

So anyways, reading your journal you mentioned your plants are about 27 - 30 days old now. I would recommend for you to stop watering plants... at a regular basis. The safest way is to flush it once every week or 8-9 day and that allows the plant to fully utilize the water, as well as drain out any excess nutrients. And there's noway you can be overwatering your plant that way.

+ Watering regularly risks root rot.

I'd say once your plants are back up again, give them 2 more days to completely dry up inside. And then come up with a weekly schedule on flushing the plant.

Goodluck.

 

[icurbyou]

Dude... You flushed it on the ..18...21...and 23?.. that's 3 times you flushed a plant in 1 week... that`s insane.
My last word is that the plant is overwatered, let it go atleast 5 days from the last flush and then see results.

Sorry you are interpretting it "unfriendly'. Not sure why you'd even mention that. By your words you are coming off very arrogant.

I have done my "share of research" and I know precisely what the description of "flushing" is. However, when I simply watered my plants, you referred to it as "flushing" earlier. (quote from above)

You basically just re-covered what flushing is. I was asking you how you suggest going about watering, since my version of "watering" is "flushing" to you. Im trying to understand you.

 

[greenleaftoker]

What you're doing is flushing... Watering till the water drains out.. is not watering... It's called flushing.

Just tryina help.

 

[icurbyou]

lol.. okay bro, again, how should I water? I have found many many many things saying that you water until the water pours from the drainholes.

Therefor I thought the difference was:
Flush = putting through 3 times the amount of water as your pot. Ie: 1 gal container = 3 gal water
Water = just water until all holes drain. This is easily doable with about a quarter gallon of water in a 1 gallon pot.

So... If you could please be so kind as to tell me about how much water I should use in a 1.5 gallon pot then I could be squared away with how you suggest to water.

 

[icurbyou]

Currently: 11:40pm, Oct 26
Last water: October 25th 6pm
Time passed since last watering: 30 hours

 

[genfranco]

Fertilizing wisely

you all need to read this thread... I dont know why people are into flushin so much.... flushing should only be done if there is a problem and you feel that you over nuted.... watering until it drains out the bottom seems to be some peoples rule but thats just ignorant... You need to learn your root system, Water in cups size dosages to allow it to drain down the middle..(not touching the stock) around the stock and not letting the water touch the sides..(as you know it sometimes separates from the bucket when it gets dry)... I like to poor 1 large cup (when i use 5 gallon buckets its 1/2 or a 1/4 gallon) around the stock to get it wet.. do the same on the other plants... by the time i come back to the first one it is ready for another cup... i never give my plants more than 1/4 of its medium... 5 gallon soil .. 1 gallon max water... in intervals of small quantities. ..like 10 minutes of wait between. (usually 1/2 gallon at a time if im in a hurry..but i preffer 1.4 gallon at a time)...the last cup I pour it to where it does touch the sides to get it wet also.... good luck and read that guide bro...

 

[visine]

I also water small amounts at a time in one pot, then on to the next.if water has began to show from the drainage holes by the time I come back to the pot, I don't water it anymore. I use a total of 2 gallons of water per feeding for 4 3 gal pots and 1 gal pot. So 13 gallons of soil (although none of the pots are filled to the brim, probably more like 10 or so gallons of soil) and 2 gal of nute water.

I usually have drainage from all the plants just before I run out of water.

 

[icurbyou]

I appreciate your guys' advice on how I should water the plants. I will keep these notes for my next few times watering until I get the hang of it.

Damn, watering is like the most stressful part of this whole venture so far. ha

 

[icurbyou]

Currently: 8:40am, Oct 27
Last water: 6:00pm, Oct 25
Time passed since last watering: 38.5 hours

Compared to the last image, the leaves have slightly dropped down but nothing big. Could've just been due to the time of day or something.

I am working on making an animated rotating GIF of these shots to show the difference.

Hope they are still doing better tonight.

 

[genfranco]

well it seems like that is fine ... i got a cheap 7 dollar ph/moist/light meter for soil at homedepot that works pretty well... I dont know man... From what i know the leafs curl down and are strong it is overwatering... but it should correct by the time the next watering comes around. If they droop.. it needs water... but im sure you know this... the other thing is, Air... is that fan moving good air... does it move the leaves around?... Fresh air?... everything seems fine in the color.. it just showed a little issue to me with the watering... but unless you feel for yourself its kinda hard... Like i said.. if the leafs feel strong but they are curling down it is overwatering... but if they are wead and drooping down it is under watering....

The picking up of the buckets works good and i use it to tell with my small cups and shit.. but not wiht my 5 gallon buckets... I just water them when they ask for it... you just feel the leaves and see if they are drooping .. when they do you give them water...

Also.. you give them nute water? isnt that soil farly new? Most of the times in good potting mix there is enough nutrients for marijuana to stay good for about 4 weeks.. after that all you have to do is transplant to a bigger pot to give it fresh nutes if you can..if space issues... then you add nutrients and shit.... but it should be good right now... lol... good luck..

 

[greenleaftoker]

Currently: 11:40pm, Oct 26
Last water: October 25th 6pm
Time passed since last watering: 30 hours

Well first off.. congrats on your plant looking A LOT better.. Just needs time man.

And this is what I think you should do, other people may beg to differ, but in my opinion it's the safest method and doesn't risk anything.

My definition of Watering is that the plant is just given enough to sustain withtin the pot.. and not drain out, like a few cups of water for a 2-3 gallon pot.
But what that does at times, is the water seeps down the top and keeps the bottom part moist... and if you use the 3 inch rule, you'd think your plant is dry again and ready for watering.. but it isn't, and constand watering that way can lead to root rot.

The watering schedule I follow, and advise to anyone else too.. is to flush the plant, now when i refer to flush, I mean... Water the plant with just enough to let it drain through.... every 5 - 8 Days.
This way you're:

• Sure that the plant is atleast 90% dry.
• Allows the plant to completely utilize the water.
• Flush out any excess nutes, as well as better tasting bud later on.
• And you don't have to worry about the last time you watered your plant, or how wet the soil is... etc. You just have a fixed schedule that you follow, and if you doubt this method, you can check my grow journal from start to today.

The first week I watered my plant at a regular basis, but after that I just decided to flush my plant weekly or so.

And as for pouring water down the sides, I honestly don't find it such a big deal, because it can be avoided, but you could just add a little more soil to the side of the pot later on and pack it down.

I hope I answered your question man.

Goodluck... and your plants are starting to look alot better.

 

[genfranco]

Currently: 8:40am, Oct 27
Last water: 6:00pm, Oct 25
Time passed since last watering: 38.5 hours

Compared to the last image, the leaves have slightly dropped down but nothing big. Could've just been due to the time of day or something.

I am working on making an animated rotating GIF of these shots to show the difference.

Hope they are still doing better tonight.

Umm... I just checked out your grow box build and i see a nice exhaust... what about the intakes at the bottom?.... am i just not seeing it?

 

[genfranco]

Well first off.. congrats on your plant looking A LOT better.. Just needs time man.

And this is what I think you should do, other people may beg to differ, but in my opinion it's the safest method and doesn't risk anything.

My definition of Watering is that the plant is just given enough to sustain withtin the pot.. and not drain out, like a few cups of water for a 2-3 gallon pot.
But what that does at times, is the water seeps down the top and keeps the bottom part moist... and if you use the 3 inch rule, you'd think your plant is dry again and ready for watering.. but it isn't, and constand watering that way can lead to root rot.

The watering schedule I follow, and advise to anyone else too.. is to flush the plant, now when i refer to flush, I mean... Water the plant with just enough to let it drain through.... every 5 - 8 Days.
This way you're:

• Sure that the plant is atleast 90% dry.
• Allows the plant to completely utilize the water.
• Flush out any excess nutes, as well as better tasting bud later on.
• And you don't have to worry about the last time you watered your plant, or how wet the soil is... etc. You just have a fixed schedule that you follow, and if you doubt this method, you can check my grow journal from start to today.

The first week I watered my plant at a regular basis, but after that I just decided to flush my plant weekly or so.

And as for pouring water down the sides, I honestly don't find it such a big deal, because it can be avoided, but you could just add a little more soil to the side of the pot later on and pack it down.

I hope I answered your question man.

Goodluck... and your plants are starting to look alot better.

why would you flush out the nutes every 5-8 days? So then you mix nutes and add them when you water?... or just not give the plant nutes?...I just odnt understand why you would want the nutes out until the final flush at the end... my plants love to use the nutes that came with the soil... most of the times i dont even add shit to it ..and you can check out my grow journal too... IF the soil gets so dry that it separates from the sides i like to kinda push it down around the sides so the water doesnt just run out of the pot/bucket... But i do like to give the sides water just to ensure those roots arund the sides of the bucket are moist... but thats just my little thing i guess... lol

 

[greenleaftoker]

why would you flush out the nutes every 5-8 days? So then you mix nutes and add them when you water?... or just not give the plant nutes?...I just odnt understand why you would want the nutes out until the final flush at the end... my plants love to use the nutes that came with the soil... most of the times i dont even add shit to it ..and you can check out my grow journal too... IF the soil gets so dry that it separates from the sides i like to kinda push it down around the sides so the water doesnt just run out of the pot/bucket... But i do like to give the sides water just to ensure those roots arund the sides of the bucket are moist... but thats just my little thing i guess... lol

I use MG Potting Mix, and that is my reason for flushing out excess nutes.

You can add nutes if you want to, but you also need to realize that when you flush... you don't water so much that a shit load drains out with all your nutes, you just water enough for the medium to drain a bit.
The soil still has alot of nutes in it, and I would rather flush, than water at a regular basis allowing nutes to spread out even more through the soil.

But then again, everyone's got their own methods right

 

[genfranco]

I use MG Potting Mix, and that is my reason for flushing out excess nutes.

You can add nutes if you want to, but you also need to realize that when you flush... you don't water so much that a shit load drains out with all your nutes, you just water enough for the medium to drain a bit.
The soil still has alot of nutes in it, and I would rather flush, than water at a regular basis allowing nutes to spread out even more through the soil.

But then again, everyone's got their own methods right

I hear ya bro... Ive been defending MG soil forever...lol... I use it as well.. I hear ya about it being strong.. and honestly your term of flushing is more like what we all would call watering... Most people consider flushing literly giving the plant 3 times its medium... So for my 5 gallon buckets im supposed to flush it with 15 gallons of water... Honestly ive never done that..lol.. Maybe this next harvest i will...lol