Organic vs synthetic

[Armyofsprout]

Organic vs synthetic feeding, does it lead to a big potency difference?

 

[LinguaPeel]

Yes. Synthetic won't produce the sugars and acids of organic.

 

[Armyofsprout]

Yes. Synthetic won't produce the sugars and acids of organic.

So is organic gonna always be more potent?

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

I'm just started my first organic grow. I don't know if it's in my head, if its the seeds I popped, or if its the fact that I'm using organic amendments, but the plants I started are growing faster than any of my previous grows. I usually put my seedlings into solo cups, as soon as they sprout, and they stay in there for about 4 weeks before they are ready to be transplanted. These plants were ready to transplant, today, which has only been 16 days since sprout. I' really excited to see how this organic grow goes.

 

[Armyofsprout]

I'm just started my first organic grow. I don't know if it's in my head, if its the seeds I popped, or if its the fact that I'm using organic amendments, but the plants I started are growing faster than any of my previous grows. I usually put my seedlings into solo cups, as soon as they sprout, and they stay in there for about 4 weeks before they are ready to be transplanted. These plants were ready to transplant, today, which has only been 16 days since sprout. I' really excited to see how this organic grow goes.

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I love growing organic because it’s way less maintenance and also less likely to burn plants but also the costs for dry ferts are a bitch. Also just availability of necessary ferts is tough

 

[theSilvah]

Mixing my own super soil has treated me well so far!

 

[OldMedUser]

 

[dubekoms]

If ya want sugar and acids in your weed just soak them cut stems in fruit juice. But for real I haven't noticed much of a difference between the two. As long as you aren't burning the shit out of your plants and you dry and cure properly the weed will come out great with either method. I find using synthetics much simpler.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

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LOL! Like I said, I could be imagining things. The main reason I decided to try organic was because I have a septic system, and my house is surrounded by protected wetlands, so I'd rather not dump a ton of salt based nutrients into the ground. It was also surprisingly cheaper for me to go organic. The guy who convinced me to switch over told me not to expect bigger yeilds, but said I would probably notice a difference in the smell and taste. He told me to think of organic growing to be more of the "craft beer" side of cannabis growing.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

If ya want sugar and acids in your weed just soak them cut stems in fruit juice. But for real I haven't noticed much of a difference between the two. As long as you aren't burning the shit out of your plants and you dry and cure properly the weed will come out great with either method. I find using synthetics much simpler.

The biggest issue is how bad salt based nutrients are to dump outside or down the drain. All my grows, up until the one I just started, was with salt based nutes, and they work great. I just wanted to try something different that won't cause issues if it leaches into the wetlands around my property.

 

[dubekoms]

The biggest issue is how bad salt based nutrients are to dump outside or down the drain. All my grows, up until the one I just started, was with salt based nutes, and they work great. I just wanted to try something different that won't cause issues if it leaches into the wetlands around my property.

I have wetlands too, huge swamp right in my backyard. My outdoor garden is organic, easier that way compared to my indoor. I collect and dilute my run off from my indoor grow with tap water and feed it to the houseplants, they don't seem to mind.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

I have wetlands too, huge swamp right in my backyard. My outdoor garden is organic, easier that way compared to my indoor. I collect and dilute my run off from my indoor grow with tap water and feed it to the houseplants, they don't seem to mind.

That's a good idea. I never thought to collect it so it could be diluted for house plants.

 

[Dreaming1]

Whatever you decide is correct. I appreciate your concern for the earth and the rest of us. I also appreciate your quest for loftier peaks. I have had good herb grown both ways.
I was going to suggest not dumping the run off too. This is all a closed loop. A recirculating system. There is no waste, only another product.

 

[Armyofsprout]

I don’t see how people find organic harder. It’s literally set it and forget it

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

I don’t see how people find organic harder. It’s literally set it and forget it

That’s how it was explained to me at the organic shop I went to. When I asked him how I should feed teas he told me he recommends that people new to organic just brew some up at the recommended dosage and, instead of feeding that straight once a week, to just dilute it with water 10:1, and use that for every watering. He told me that I’ll be blown away from how much easier it is to work with and that, once you get your soil figured out, you can do entire grows without ever having to feed the plants.

 

[Bignutes]

I love growing organic because it’s way less maintenance and also less likely to burn plants but also the costs for dry ferts are a bitch. Also just availability of necessary ferts is tough

Your choosing the wrong dry fert's. You can buy it in bulk in ag feed stores, craft brewing stores, turf care suppliers, even go to the community gardens they have a surplus of compost. I'm talking like $15 to $40 for a 40 to 50 lb sack.

 

[TreeFarmerCharlie]

Your choosing the wrong dry fert's. You can buy it in bulk in ag feed stores, craft brewing stores, turf care suppliers, even go to the community gardens they have a surplus of compost. I'm talking like $15 to $40 for a 40 to 50 lb sack.

Even the expensive prepackaged organic fertilizers are cheap when compared to some of the synthetic lines. Even at half dose? I’d go though at least $50-$70 in Advanced Nutrients products every 1-2 grows with 4 plants. The dry amendments I picked up were $40, and the guy who sold them to me said they should easily last me 4 grows with 4 plants. Once I get comfortable with organic I’m definitely going to buy everything in bulk though.

 

[ilovereggae]

Your choosing the wrong dry fert's. You can buy it in bulk in ag feed stores, craft brewing stores, turf care suppliers, even go to the community gardens they have a surplus of compost. I'm talking like $15 to $40 for a 40 to 50 lb sack.

The problem with that is that its not sustainable long term. All those chelated chemicals generate a lot of waste products when they are produced. We all need to be concerned about the entire ecosystem of agriculture at this point in time.

 

[ilovereggae]

I will also add that I prefer organic for both taste and terps as well. Potency might realistically be stronger with synthetics since you can push the plant harder? Not scientific answer but a valid guess.

 

[Bignutes]

The problem with that is that its not sustainable long term. All those chelated chemicals generate a lot of waste products when they are produced. We all need to be concerned about the entire ecosystem of agriculture at this point in time.

Products like alfalfa pellets, diatamaceous earth, malt barley, dandelion (free), chicken poop fert, egg shells, banana peels, Epsom salt, molasses, wheat bran, rice hulls, on and on. Much of this stuff is right under our noses and comes in bulk as natural sources.