The second impeachment of Donald trump*

TacoMac

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Answers your question
You obviously are clueless about Georgia.

Macon is the armpit of the universe as far as Georgians are concerned.

Her and 5 people volunteering to go hand out flyers at a hotel in Macon is not a game changer at all.

It's why nobody ever heard of it and you had to Google your ass off to find it.
 

hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/14/misleading-arguments-trumps-second-impeachment/
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The House debate over President Trump’s second impeachment, for inciting a riot at the Capitol that left five people dead last week, featured some false and misleading claims from a few Republicans.

Democrats argued that Trump should be removed immediately for riling up his supporters with false claims of a stolen election at a Jan. 6 rally, hours before the crowd turned violent and marched on the Capitol. Some Republicans, including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), agreed that Trump had poured fuel onto the fire but argued that impeachment would be excessive with only days left to go in his term. Other Republicans minimized Trump’s inflammatory remarks and spun the facts to defend him.

Here’s a roundup of a few claims that caught our attention. We usually don’t award Pinocchios when we round up multiple claims, but many of these claims are well-worn, misleading defenses from Trump and his allies.

“Before the last presidential impeachment, President Trump rightly pointed out the improper activities of the Biden crime family, and subsequently, he’s been proven right.”

— Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.)

Trump, without evidence, has repeatedly claimed that President-elect Joe Biden is the head of an organized crime family and a corrupt politician, and Gaetz was parroting that line of attack from the House floor.

Unlike Trump, Biden released decades of tax returns, and no evidence has emerged of corruption or shady dealings.
Hunter Biden, one of his sons, secured international business deals that might not have come his way had he not been the vice president’s son. Critics have noted that the younger Biden received hundreds of thousands of dollars for his appointment to the board of a Ukrainian energy company, and also did business in China.

A lengthy Wall Street Journal examination of Hunter Biden’s business dealings, published Dec. 22, 2020, concluded: “None of the Journal’s reporting found that Joe Biden was involved in his son’s business activities. The tax investigation doesn’t implicate the president-elect, according to people familiar with the matter.”

“Then we have the 2020 presidential election, where the president correctly pointed out unconstitutional behavior, voting irregularities, concerns over tabulations, dead people voting and now, impeachment again.”

— Gaetz

Notice how Gaetz avoids the word “fraud,” though his remarks seem to insinuate that the election results were tainted. In fact, election security experts, including those in the Trump administration, say the 2020 presidential election was one of the most secure in U.S. history.

Although Trump and his defenders allege that some states violated the Constitution with changes to their election procedures this year, the president’s legal arguments were resoundingly rejected; the Trump campaign filed and lost more than 60 legal challenges in courts across the country.

Gaetz mentions “concerns about tabulations, dead people voting,” but he’s scaremongering. Election officials across the country have run down these claims and have found they often don’t add up.

“A similar complaint was brought before a PA court — and soundly rejected,” the Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General said in a statement. “The court found no deficiency in how PA maintains its voter rolls, and there is currently no proof provided that any deceased person has voted in the 2020 election.”

According to the Associated Press, a registered Republican in Luzerne County, Pa., tried to apply for an absentee ballot in his deceased mother’s name. But he was caught.

Similarly, Trump often claimed more than 5,000 dead people voted in Georgia, but state election officials, all Republicans, say there are only two possible cases they have found.

“For three years, Democratic members of this body and the mainstream media lied to the American people that the Trump campaign colluded and conspired with Russia. For years, after an exhaustive investigation [it] was found that there was no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.”

— Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.)

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III revealed significant criminal activity by some of Trump’s campaign advisers and by Russian individuals and entities. The special counsel concluded that Russian government actors successfully hacked emails from officials at the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic Party, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks, to harm Clinton and help Trump in 2016.

The special counsel’s report, released in April 2019, concluded the Trump campaign welcomed the assistance from Russia even if it did not coordinate with it: “Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

The Mueller report documents numerous contacts between Russian actors and Trump campaign officials. To name a few: a meeting at Trump Tower between Trump advisers and family members and a Russian lawyer, and Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort offering “private briefings” to a Russian oligarch linked to the Kremlin and sending internal polling to an alleged former Russian intelligence officer.

“I also want to thank my Democratic colleagues for finally joining Republicans in condemning mob violence after six months of refusing to acknowledge it.”

— Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Tex.)

Several Republicans claimed that Democrats were outraged by the pro-Trump mob that left five people dead at the Capitol but were silent on the looting and riots seen in 2020 in various cities. But Democratic leaders including Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) have also spoken out against the 2020 riots.

“We support peaceful demonstrations,” Pelosi said in a floor speech in September. “We participate in them. They are part of the essence of our democracy. That does not include looting, starting fires or rioting. They should be prosecuted. That is lawlessness.”

Biden, in a speech in Philadelphia on June 2, said: “There’s no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses. … We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction.”
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Herb & Suds

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You obviously are clueless about Georgia.

Macon is the armpit of the universe as far as Georgians are concerned.

Her and 5 people volunteering to go hand out flyers at a hotel in Macon is not a game changer at all.

It's why nobody ever heard of it and you had to Google your ass off to find it.
I'm going with Mobile , Alabama as the armpit
Smells like old Floriduh
 

TacoMac

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Okay. If you say so. I lived alot of years outside of Augusta and have been in several countries for various operations, in my opinion Macon is not the armpit of the universe. Go dawgs
Augusta is a much larger city than Macon and has roughly 30% more people in it.

And loving a team that can't spell 'Dogs' tells me everything I need to know.
 

SpaceGrease

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Capitol Building CCTV feeds showed Rep Louie Gohmert GOP-TX, Rep Jim Jordan GOP-OH, Rep Matt Gaetz GOP-FL, Rep Lauren Boebert GOP-CO, Marjorie Taylor Greene GOP-GA, Paul Gosar GOP-AZ, Andy Biggs GOP-AZ were involved in giving ‘reconnaissance’ tours to groups 1/5.
Yes sir , that’s what’s up . Those shit heels right there . How that washes out has my undivided attention .
 

CunningCanuk

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Capitol Building CCTV feeds showed Rep Louie Gohmert GOP-TX, Rep Jim Jordan GOP-OH, Rep Matt Gaetz GOP-FL, Rep Lauren Boebert GOP-CO, Marjorie Taylor Greene GOP-GA, Paul Gosar GOP-AZ, Andy Biggs GOP-AZ were involved in giving ‘reconnaissance’ tours to groups 1/5.
I wonder if Jim Jordan gave his tour before or after he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump won't overturn a senate conviction, that's a political decision. Besides, the conservative members of the court just watched their political home burn to the fucking ground in front of their eyes. The senate impeachment conviction and disqualification votes will stick and the SCOTUS will not even hear the case, neither will any other court. There might even be federal criminal convictions before the impeachment trial.
 

captainmorgan

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Much of Putins propaganda and manipulation that was used in the Ukraine was used here to get Stinky in office and what followed, well worth watching.


 

DIY-HP-LED

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I wonder when they are gonna confirm Merrick Garland? The DOJ is gonna be a busy place in 2021 and Merrick should get an early start, hit the ground running as it were. I think he should screen and bring back a few thousand recently retired FBI agents for a year or two to handle the back log and have a wealth of experienced hands to lead the many investigative teams. Thousands of DOJ alumni signed petitions against illegal DOJ actions so there is a big bench to draw from. National security needs to be top priority along with covid and home land security is a big part of that, so the director of homeland security needs to be confirmed ASAP too.
 

TacoMac

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My brother was a notorious bad speller when he was young, I remember someone buying him a gag book with every word mis-spelled, for some reason dawg was one of them that stuck with me lol.
I'm a horrible speller as well. A dear, late friend of mine used to refer to it as my machine gun approach to spelling. That was in the days before spell check.

Even with spell check, I still make mistakes. To this day, the vast majority of my posts I edit is to correct spelling.
 
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