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Fogdog

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GMO products? I try to avoid them but I'm fairly certain that I do eat them occasionally if I go out or to some peoples house for a meal. This is rare.
I grow most of my food. It's all non-GMO.
Much is in the realm of the unknown regarding these vaccines. We will continue learning about their negative consequences for many years to come.
We do know that they aren't effective for more than a few months and that many healthy people have died shorty after taking them.
If you believe otherwise I support your freedom to do so.
Here it is again.

Low knowledge = high confidence.
 

canndo

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GMO products? I try to avoid them but I'm fairly certain that I do eat them occasionally if I go out or to some peoples house for a meal. This is rare.
I grow most of my food. It's all non-GMO.
Much is in the realm of the unknown regarding these vaccines. We will continue learning about their negative consequences for many years to come.
We do know that they aren't effective for more than a few months and that many healthy people have died shorty after taking them.
If you believe otherwise I support your freedom to do so.
As I said, we have over a billion injections.

This gives us a curve through all human physiologies and interactions.

The entirety of the substances injected leaves the body in a few weeks, nothing of the shot remains.

We do not know the long term consequences of electromagnetic radiation from g4 transceivers or phones for that matter and yet I do not hear of many who are projecting the same sort if serious doubt and fear about them.

"Many" deaths? Not that I can discover. Were there a large number of deaths that could be attributable directly to the vaccine then we would receive reports of famous people dying, poets, actors, scientists, musicians..people who leave a detectable hole in society, people who's deaths we can verify. I can find none. And if these deaths are so rare that there are no famous people of the hundred million or more in this country that have been vaccinated then it must be a lower incidence than that from aspirin.

Yes, there have been incidences of injury from the vaccine. This political reaction pro and con does not help the poor people who suffer from heart problems and unspecified maladies. They are shunned by the pro and used as "I told you so" banners by the anti.


No, it's only this shot that has people violate common sense, Why do you suppose?
 
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Hiddengems

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As I said, we have over a billion injections.

This gives us a curve through all human physiologies and interactions.

The entirety of the substances injected leaves the body in a few weeks, nothing of the shot remains.

We do not know the long term consequences of electromagnetic radiation from g4 transceivers or phones for that matter and yet I do not hear of many who are projecting the same sort if serious doubt and fear about them.

No, it's only this shot. Why do you suppose?
Nobody is mandating living by cell towers and having cell phones. People can opt in to all the danger they want. But forcing it upon them creates a problem.

I wouldn't take $1,000,000 if someone tried to force it on me.
 

canndo

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Nobody is mandating living by cell towers and having cell phones. People can opt in to all the danger they want. But forcing it upon them creates a problem.

I wouldn't take $1,000,000 if someone tried to force it on me.

Not "mandating"? No, not in any technical sense.

But this nonsense about not letting the government "tell me what I should put in my body" is exactly that, nonsense, the government directly and indirectly tells each of us that very thing.


When they mandate generally recognized as safe, when they issue nutritional guidelines, when they allow or disallow additives to our food grade plastics, what goes into our food, our water and our air.

When our government opts to intentionally ignore dangerous properties of a particular substance it is in effect, forcing us to invest that substance.

I asked about gmos because we really don't know the long term effects of this or any future iteration of engineered foods that we cannot help but be exposed to ongoingly. Not two or three times in micrograms doses but ounces per week or more.
And the average person, the one who is upset about vaccines eats this stuff, he cannot avoid it because the government that will not label (if that is even possible) is effectively forcing us to eat it.

Each one of us eats what? A credit card worth of plastic a month? Why? Because government refuses to hold manufacturers accountable. You are being forced by government inaction to literally eat plastic.


Sugar, we have known about the dangers of sugar for a while now but government does not act and most Eat sugar subsidized by our government.

Don't kid yourself, you are eating exactly what industry instructs government to force into your body. You have limited choice in the matter.
 

Hiddengems

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Not "mandating"? No, not in any technical sense.

But this nonsense about not letting the government "tell me what I should put in my body" is exactly that, nonsense, the government directly and indirectly tells each of us that very thing.


When they mandate generally recognized as safe, when they issue nutritional guidelines, when they allow or disallow additives to our food grade plastics, what goes into our food, our water and our air.

When our government opts to intentionally ignore dangerous properties of a particular substance it is in effect, forcing us to invest that substance.

I asked about gmos because we really don't know the long term effects of this or any future iteration of engineered foods that we cannot help but be exposed to ongoingly. Not two or three times in micrograms doses but ounces per week or more.
And the average person, the one who is upset about vaccines eats this stuff, he cannot avoid it because the government that will not label (if that is even possible) is effectively forcing us to eat it.

Each one of us eats what? A credit card worth of plastic a month? Why? Because government refuses to hold manufacturers accountable. You are being forced by government inaction to literally eat plastic.


Sugar, we have known about the dangers of sugar for a while now but government does not act and most Eat sugar subsidized by our government.

Don't kid yourself, you are eating exactly what industry instructs government to force into your body. You have limited choice in the matter.
Fresh farm produce, wild game, and locally raised meat is what they want me putting in my body?

I don't live in a city. I have access to better food than what is offered at national chain stores. I'm on zero meds, well beside cannabis.

I believe all drugs should be legal. It's not the governments job to decide what I put in my body.
 

Fogdog

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Not "mandating"? No, not in any technical sense.

But this nonsense about not letting the government "tell me what I should put in my body" is exactly that, nonsense, the government directly and indirectly tells each of us that very thing.


When they mandate generally recognized as safe, when they issue nutritional guidelines, when they allow or disallow additives to our food grade plastics, what goes into our food, our water and our air.

When our government opts to intentionally ignore dangerous properties of a particular substance it is in effect, forcing us to invest that substance.

I asked about gmos because we really don't know the long term effects of this or any future iteration of engineered foods that we cannot help but be exposed to ongoingly. Not two or three times in micrograms doses but ounces per week or more.
And the average person, the one who is upset about vaccines eats this stuff, he cannot avoid it because the government that will not label (if that is even possible) is effectively forcing us to eat it.

Each one of us eats what? A credit card worth of plastic a month? Why? Because government refuses to hold manufacturers accountable. You are being forced by government inaction to literally eat plastic.


Sugar, we have known about the dangers of sugar for a while now but government does not act and most Eat sugar subsidized by our government.

Don't kid yourself, you are eating exactly what industry instructs government to force into your body. You have limited choice in the matter.
Are you conflating gmos, food policies and industrial pollution with vaccines?
 

canndo

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Are you conflating gmos, food policies and industrial pollution with vaccines?
What? No, I am pointing out the insanity of suspecting ominous Ling term effects of one activity while either ignoring or scoffing at the idea that we might not know the long term effects of other things. And that the government does indeed, "mandate what we put in our bodies"
 

Severed Tongue

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It's all good. Majority of us will get on with our lives, because we all are contributing to our society.

The ones refusing are only going to get more restrictions.

"Omicron" Variant has arrived and with it comes the 5th wave.

Enjoy being yourself, by yourself, living your life from a screen arguing with people on the internet about it lol.
 
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canndo

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Fresh farm produce, wild game, and locally raised meat is what they want me putting in my body?

I don't live in a city. I have access to better food than what is offered at national chain stores. I'm on zero meds, well beside cannabis.

I believe all drugs should be legal. It's not the governments job to decide what I put in my body.

"Wild game"? You think that because it is wild it is free from heavy metals and pesticides?

And let's look at pot. How many legitimate studies have there been I'm the long term use of high thc products? Do you know for certain that they are safe?

But good on you, you are one of the few that has unplugged from western culture, my comments then are less applicable to you. If you are so far removed then surely the federal government can't touch you in the interests of public safety.
 

CatHedral

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"Wild game"? You think that because it is wild it is free from heavy metals and pesticides?

And let's look at pot. How many legitimate studies have there been I'm the long term use of high thc products? Do you know for certain that they are safe?

But good on you, you are one of the few that has unplugged from western culture, my comments then are less applicable to you. If you are so far removed then surely the federal government can't touch you in the interests of public safety.
It is difficult to do the necessary studies under oppressive central scheduling.
 

Herb & Suds

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GMO products? I try to avoid them but I'm fairly certain that I do eat them occasionally if I go out or to some peoples house for a meal. This is rare.
I grow most of my food. It's all non-GMO.
Much is in the realm of the unknown regarding these vaccines. We will continue learning about their negative consequences for many years to come.
We do know that they aren't effective for more than a few months and that many healthy people have died shorty after taking them.
If you believe otherwise I support your freedom to do so.
Who is this “we”?
I don’t do the dark web so I assume that is your source?
 

Hiddengems

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"Wild game"? You think that because it is wild it is free from heavy metals and pesticides?

And let's look at pot. How many legitimate studies have there been I'm the long term use of high thc products? Do you know for certain that they are safe?

But good on you, you are one of the few that has unplugged from western culture, my comments then are less applicable to you. If you are so far removed then surely the federal government can't touch you in the interests of public safety.
I was farming when it was 25+ years in prison. I have no respect for any parts of the system.

I'm old enough to remember "OxyContin isn't addictive" being the newest greatest medical advice. How'd that work out?
 

Herb & Suds

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I was farming when it was 25+ years in prison. I have no respect for any parts of the system.

I'm old enough to remember "OxyContin isn't addictive" being the newest greatest medical advice. How'd that work out?
Too bad the earth isn’t really flat then

You could just step off
 

canndo

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I've never been a victim in my life. I control my destiny, I don't give others control.

My newly ex boss was speeding me to the airport in Minneapolis early one cold morning. We were talking about his control over his destiny. Moments after he exclaimed that he was in control we were clipped by a black car and spun three complete times on the freeway. The incident caused another motorist to strike a tree and lose his life.

I testified that indeed there had been a dark car but no other witness remembered seeing it.

The incident permanently changed my friends life. But sure, we control our destiny, why not.
 
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