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[Dorian2]

You don't smoke the leaves, you wash the trichomes off the trim material that's frozen solid and then press that into rosin.
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Nice. I'm not into making concentrate. Only done edibles with sugar leaves a couple of times. I know it's sacrilege but I'm fine with smoking bud and buying a 2 chip of Hash occasionally. I might try Rosin or some kind of Hash with this next crop coming up though.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

We just had our crawl space redone, insulation between the floor joists, what a huge difference its made! Does the building have much wall insulation? Wife's father has a metal out building that has wall and ceiling insulation with a heatpump/mini split. Its freaking huge and has a open floor plan yet its so much warmer than our house.

Cheap building, with the pink stuff, gonna push for 24hr veg(like a boss).

The buildings 2 story's, downstairs where prop,blooms 1/2/3 are have plywood walls but 3in freezer paneling ceilings...odd but awesome

 

[The Hippy]

All the smoke we get here has been tumbled.has no sugar coat at all. and only gets buzzed. all taste good looks good but sux They get all money they can comes from dispensary

A lot of folks are fooled by the rock hard bud scene. They assume those bullets are top notch. I am skeptical on that idea.
Your correct, many of those types of buds have been tumbled and or run through a trimming machine. I have NEVER grown a bud that was completely smooth. They aren't. They may have some general bulb type shape but defiantly not smooth. To me a any weed that looks that way has been manipulated to appear like that. Or it has been vac sealed down hard. Machine trimmed weed to me is a joke. As you state...bald as a baby ass.
Most big government approved LP growers in Canada use trimming machine due to volume of product needing done.
Plus a pile of chemical as well that are legally allowed.

 

[The Hippy]

Yeah, I get that there's a pretty big chip on some old school growers shoulders considering the past. You sound like you deal with it in your own way via posts and not spending anything towards that particular system. Awesome if that works for you, as long as you aren't cheating yourself out of some pretty decent product that's now available, which it doesn't sound like you are with your connections. My approach to the legal market is the polar opposite because I'd rather have my kid and her buddies buying from a legal source, or MOM which they have as well, and not so much a source like the stereotypical "seedy dealer" down the street. Even if he's not actually seedy at all. Never know when an Opiod will magically turn up to be honest. A buddy took what he thought was a Tylenol at a party and ended up in the hospital....

As mentioned here bringing opioids or other drugs into the discussion is pretty pointless. I find cannabis activities generally on their own for business. I certainly know of no one who laces weed with anything. What a wives tale that is.
I find these two worlds rarely mix. In my circles anyway.
IMO local artisan craft weed is where it's at.
Seedy dealer??? Maybe in the movies you watch. The dealers I always got from we're always my friends or buddies trying to make a buck. Honestly the weed you find now is the safest we've ever had around here. Anyone getting from me gets pure pesticide free hand trimmed clean burning mold free.
So many fabulous choice in my town to choose from delivered to your door.
No need to feed the system that still busts people for not paying up. Essentially that is what we have. Buy trudolfs schwagg or he has his hired police forces come looking for you. Same old story. In other words buy legal or your still busted. I see through that crap pretty well.
You don't wanna be that kind of forced customer do you? Obviously you don't as I see you grow you own. Don't send you kid to the enemy.

 

[The Hippy]

Here you can't even give away weed anymore lol

Same around here. The local delivery guys are really offering some crazy deals lately. Point systems ...free stuff......1 hour delivery...free ounce deals.....customer referral give-a-ways....and so on and so on. It's a war against the stores.

 

[BlandMeow]

11 pages full of comments on a dead forum thread.

 

[The Hippy]

11 pages full of comments on a dead forum thread.

That's what I was thinking....yet the mod gave me crap for starting it.

 

[Dorian2]

As mentioned here bringing opioids or other drugs into the discussion is pretty pointless. I find cannabis activities generally on their own for business. I certainly know of no one who laces weed with anything. What a wives tale that is.
I find these two worlds rarely mix. In my circles anyway.
IMO local artisan craft weed is where it's at.
Seedy dealer??? Maybe in the movies you watch. The dealers I always got from we're always my friends or buddies trying to make a buck. Honestly the weed you find now is the safest we've ever had around here. Anyone getting from me gets pure pesticide free hand trimmed clean burning mold free.
So many fabulous choice in my town to choose from delivered to your door.
No need to feed the system that still busts people for not paying up. Essentially that is what we have. Buy trudolfs schwagg or he has his hired police forces come looking for you. Same old story. In other words buy legal or your still busted. I see through that crap pretty well.
You don't wanna be that kind of forced customer do you? Obviously you don't as I see you grow you own. Don't send you kid to the enemy.

I know lacing with Opioids is rare and didn't bring that into the discussion based on non trust of quality growers in general. I just brought it up to demonstrate a possibility of what can happen if you do not know who you're dealing with or who their source might be in. You know and trust your group of friends. I know and trust my own group of friends. But fuck if I want my kid fooling with ingestible products from some unknown source. Like I've mentioned before, I have no issue with dealing with the grey market as that was my main source for a number of years. But I don't want the point lost that I want to ensure that my own flesh and blood takes the due diligence to vet her sources. With the help of her over reaching, all seeing and knowing Father of course.

 

[AquaTerra]

11 pages full of comments on a dead forum thread.

Except most of the replies don't seem to be from the regular Canadians.

 

[ComputerSaysNo]

Here's what Oklahoma's problem is... SQ 788 allowed no business caps, no canopy limit, only $2500 a year in fees, unlimited licenses, 25% out of State ownership, ...... we have 22 Dispensaries in a town of 22,000. This is the norm across the State.

Oklahoma market is a race to the bottom

That just sounds like a simple free market to me -- what so many esp. in the US believe to be the best invention since sliced bread.

With a commodity like weed (that essentially costs nothing to produce), profits will only be had for mass producers. It's not a "race to the bottom" in my eyes, it's simply a market economy at work.

All these limits that Aaron mentioned there (canopy, fees, wtf-taxes, etc.) are just distracting from the fact that weed is actually WEED, and not difficult to produce, and it should not cost more than tomatoes (which are a lot harder to produce and need to be kept fresh etc.).

@xtsho Has said it on page 1, and I agree: the stuff is legal now (in Canada), get fucking used to the fact that its intrinsic value is not high enough to run a cottage business growing weed.

Germany (where I live), is very likely to go fully legal in this electoral term (my guess is in 1-2 years); I'm expecting the same development as in Canada, no matter if home growing will be allowed or not.

 

[AquaTerra]

@xtsho Has said it on page 1, and I agree: the stuff is legal now (in Canada), get fucking used to the fact that its intrinsic value is not high enough to run a cottage business growing weed.

Only reason weed market here collapsed on the grey market side, is not because of legalization its because 90% of the weed was exported out of Canada. Canada's domestic market is tiny to what the export market is. Once the borders shut down the market collapsed. Two years before COVID we even started to see people using the West Coast borders to bring in weed into the US. That hasn't happened for 7-9 previous years.

Problem with the legal market in Canada is how it started and who was in at the bottom and now the laws where designed. The only people besides the first two LP's in Canada that were able to get in at the bottom were the people who controlled the laws. Politicians, Ex Politicians and ex police chiefs, there's lots of info out there on who got in at the bottom. Chuck Riffici was the CFO for the Liberal party and somehow was able to get two LP's going with 0 problems while other companies had to drag themselves through shit and then not even get licensed of go broke trying to get licensed.

 

[thumper60]

That just sounds like a simple free market to me -- what so many esp. in the US believe to be the best invention since sliced bread.

With a commodity like weed (that essentially costs nothing to produce), profits will only be had for mass producers. It's not a "race to the bottom" in my eyes, it's simply a market economy at work.

All these limits that Aaron mentioned there (canopy, fees, wtf-taxes, etc.) are just distracting from the fact that weed is actually WEED, and not difficult to produce, and it should not cost more than tomatoes (which are a lot harder to produce and need to be kept fresh etc.).

@xtsho Has said it on page 1, and I agree: the stuff is legal now (in Canada), get fucking used to the fact that its intrinsic value is not high enough to run a cottage business growing weed.

Germany (where I live), is very likely to go fully legal in this electoral term (my guess is in 1-2 years); I'm expecting the same development as in Canada, no matter if home growing will be allowed or not.

So wrong! I have been in the gray market since the 70s here in the states, I was so worried when we went full legal LOL No worries now the tax is fuckin crazy plenty of room for Gray market cottage business.xtsho happens to live in a fucked up state out west trust me the east coast is nothing like the west coast. but ya Canada laws are fucked up.

 

[The Hippy]

I know lacing with Opioids is rare and didn't bring that into the discussion based on non trust of quality growers in general. I just brought it up to demonstrate a possibility of what can happen if you do not know who you're dealing with or who their source might be in. You know and trust your group of friends. I know and trust my own group of friends. But fuck if I want my kid fooling with ingestible products from some unknown source. Like I've mentioned before, I have no issue with dealing with the grey market as that was my main source for a number of years. But I don't want the point lost that I want to ensure that my own flesh and blood takes the due diligence to vet her sources. With the help of her over reaching, all seeing and knowing Father of course.

It's so rare that I've never heard of it happening. Stop bringing up what doesn't happen. If your happy imagining it happens then keep it to yourself.
WHY would anyone lace weed with opioids? WHY??? What benefit would that do a seller? That makes no sense.
Now if someone had a grudge privately and did that to fuck someone else over, possibly. But weed for sales with opioids is a fantasy and scare tactic at best.
Are you not worried about what your kids LP's are spraying on their weed? The list is pretty long what they can use and never tell you or your kid. But your smoking it anyway if you buy LP weed. Last time I heard it was close to 25 different things they were approved for. Plus you get to smoke the mold that they irradiated.
Your safe store bought weed may not be so safe.

 

[thumper60]

I must say folks still get busted here, Sale without tax is looked down at but dam nobody is running around and checking home grows we can have 12 in flower an up to 99 in veg under 12in per house nobody is counting

 

[Dorian2]

It's so rare that I've never heard of it happening. Stop bringing up what doesn't happen. If your happy imagining it happens then keep it to yourself.
WHY would anyone lace weed with opioids? WHY??? What benefit would that do a seller? That makes no sense.
Now if someone had a grudge privately and did that to fuck someone else over, possibly. But weed for sales with opioids is a fantasy and scare tactic at best.
Are you not worried about what your kids LP's are spraying on their weed? The list is pretty long what they can use and never tell you or your kid. But your smoking it anyway if you buy LP weed. Last time I heard it was close to 25 different things they were approved for. Plus you get to smoke the mold that they irradiated.
Your safe store bought weed may not be so safe.

OK. We'll leave it at that.

EDIT: With an addendum: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/vermont/articles/2021-12-02/3-arrested-in-connection-with-fentanyl-laced-marijuana

 

[AquaTerra]

So wrong! I have been in the gray market since the 70s here in the states, I was so worried when we went full legal LOL No worries now the tax is fuckin crazy plenty of room for Gray market cottage business.xtsho happens to live in a fucked up state out west trust me the east coast is nothing like the west coast. but ya Canada laws are fucked up.

OK. We'll leave it at that.

EDIT: With an addendum: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/vermont/articles/2021-12-02/3-arrested-in-connection-with-fentanyl-laced-marijuana

Marijuana companies caught using banned pesticides to face fines up to $1-million

The fines will be enshrined in federal legislation as a way to clamp down on unauthorized use of dangerous chemicals by licensed cannabis growers, according to Health Canada

www.theglobeandmail.com

I can find articles supporting any view I want on the internet. Wait till you hear about coco puffs.

 

[Herb & Suds]

Except most of the replies don't seem to be from the regular Canadians.

Ya Michigan should count tho

 

[Dorian2]

Marijuana companies caught using banned pesticides to face fines up to $1-million

The fines will be enshrined in federal legislation as a way to clamp down on unauthorized use of dangerous chemicals by licensed cannabis growers, according to Health Canada

www.theglobeandmail.com

I can find articles supporting any view I want on the internet. Wait till you hear about coco puffs.

Yeah. I know. That wasn't the point of the post. Isn't it fair to allow people make their own choices of who they buy weed from or not? I seriously don't get the pushback about the legal market, aside from the fact that the originators got moved aside for big money operators. I think a lot of you guys got the shit end of the stick and the implementation sucked.....cocopuffs. But I'm not in a position to bare the same grudge as others do because it didn't affect my well being or standard of living as it did to others. That doesn't mean I don't give a rats ass if old school growers and suppliers got fucked over.

Did you take the chance to re read my post that seems to have created some distaste? I think if you do with some abstract nuance you'll find it isn't as black and white as it's been made out to be. Your choice though.

 

[gotnoname]

Only reason weed market here collapsed on the grey market side, is not because of legalization its because 90% of the weed was exported out of Canada. Canada's domestic market is tiny to what the export market is. Once the borders shut down the market collapsed. Two years before COVID we even started to see people using the West Coast borders to bring in weed into the US. That hasn't happened for 7-9 previous years.

Problem with the legal market in Canada is how it started and who was in at the bottom and now the laws where designed. The only people besides the first two LP's in Canada that were able to get in at the bottom were the people who controlled the laws. Politicians, Ex Politicians and ex police chiefs, there's lots of info out there on who got in at the bottom. Chuck Riffici was the CFO for the Liberal party and somehow was able to get two LP's going with 0 problems while other companies had to drag themselves through shit and then not even get licensed of go broke trying to get licensed.

About the border covid thing, I am done hearing that, Look at the cbp numbers and during 2020 and 2021 the amount of cannabis seized at the border skyrocketed.

because of covid truckers are not responsible for whats in the trailer if its sealed, since by precaution they do not enter the facility.

prices are down because the us is overproducing just like canada.
In cali the max sentence for growing is 6months, and people have been growing crazy amount in desert greenhouses.

just look at the bust in cali and oregon this year. It hasnt went up last spring because people were harvesting their light dep…

 

[gotnoname]

About the border covid thing, I am done hearing that, Look at the cbp numbers and during 2020 and 2021 the amount of cannabis seized at the border skyrocketed.

because of covid truckers are not responsible for whats in the trailer if its sealed, since by precaution they do not enter the facility.

prices are down because the us is overproducing just like canada.
In cali the max sentence for growing is 6months, and people have been growing crazy amount in desert greenhouses.

just look at the bust in cali and oregon this year. It hasnt went up last spring because people were harvesting their light dep…

By not responsible i mean theres a reasonable doubt, so harder to convict.