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Bagginski

Bagginski

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It's a question of semantics Roger, the point is it will work like a classic proxy war and the rules of engagement will be the same. We supply the arms, training, aid and intelligence, the Ukrainians supply the courage and determination and the Russians supply the meat for the grinder and lot's of money to keep the ball rolling. Our troops don't fight their troops, Ukrainians do, using our weapons. It's been that way through many recent wars, except for the gulf wars and the second Afghanistan war, at least until Vlad started putting bounties on US troops there.
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My friend, it occurs to me that “we” (in the largest sense) may have been looking at this all wrong:

I thought Beau’s point about the possibility that Putin is sandbagging the west - embarking on a “Potemkin invasion” intended to claim Ukraine, yes, but aimed at convincing the West that Russia’s military is a crew of beat-down homeless guys, raising the outrage of the EU, drawing more involvement by NATO, then springing their newest, greatest, fastest, etc and literally defeating Europe and the US with weapons and vehicles we know nothing about.

It may not be likely, but it needs to be thought about
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Bagginski said:
My friend, it occurs to me that “we” (in the largest sense) may have been looking at this all wrong:

I thought Beau’s point about the possibility that Putin is sandbagging the west - embarking on a “Potemkin invasion” intended to claim Ukraine, yes, but aimed at convincing the West that Russia’s military is a crew of beat-down homeless guys, raising the outrage of the EU, drawing more involvement by NATO, then springing their newest, greatest, fastest, etc and literally defeating Europe and the US with weapons and vehicles we know nothing about.

It may not be likely, but it needs to be thought about
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It has been, but those kind of secrets are hard to hide from the CIA, NSA and satellite's, plus lot's of spies on the ground. They were probably surprised at how shitty the army is though, the are conservative in their estimates too. Once they saw it in action, it quickly became apparent that Vlad was Mussolini, not Hitler. :lol:

I think he also has about the same grip on power that Mussolini had too, not Hitler or Stalin, his army is Mussolini like in performance and moral too.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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printer said:
Russia shut down all media in the country that does not toe the party line. They are telling the public what they want them to hear. You have seen the news where a family member outside of Russia tries to tell one inside of Russia what is really happening and the person inside Russia does not believe it? Why do you think the public inside Russia does not believe the truth? Because they have been fed this line from the government for years.

Here, use Google translate.

ria.ru

РИА Новости - события в Москве, России и мире сегодня: темы дня, фото, видео, инфографика, радио

Новости в России и мире, самая оперативная информация: темы дня, обзоры, анализ. Фото и видео с места событий, инфографика, радиоэфир, подкасты
ria.ru ria.ru
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We jumped all over didn't we? You didn't even get a chance to finish making your point. But seriously, I think it is good to see what the other side is saying.

I just saw this in the news:

White House warns Russia could use chemical weapons in Ukraine, rejects false ‘conspiracy’ of U.S. biolabs


I wouldn't have known what they were talking about if not for your post.


Seems that Russia created that false conspiracy as a prelude to Sarinizing people.
 
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printer

printer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Shoot them away anyway, it will scare the shit out of the Russians.
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The propellant is designed to burn from the center outward in an even burn. With the cracks in the propellant the flame front goes where it is not suppose to and more is burnt when it is not suppose to. Also if the burn gets behind a piece, the piece can flake off, giving more burn area, causes greater burn rate and pressure inside the rocket. The corrosion of the rocket case causes weak points in the wall. With the increased pressure and the weakened case things go boom rather quickly, as in not far from the person aiming the rocket.

As a disclaimer, I would love to build a few rockets myself but getting the fertilizer is not an easy thing now. Wish I had a farmer friend.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ANC said:
lol, you should see the pissfight their space minister is having with an astronaut on the space station.
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Too funny this:

"The launchers at Baikonur decided that without the flags of some countries, our rocket would look more beautiful," Rogozin said in a Russian-language tweet.

Former American astronaut Scott Kelly, who has in recent weeks tweeted his support for Ukraine, replied in Russian to the Rogozin’s video post.

"Dimon, without those flags and the foreign exchange they bring in, your space program won't be worth a damn. Maybe you can find a job at McDonald's if McDonald's still exists in Russia."

www.ctvnews.ca

The head of Russia's space agency and a former U.S. astronaut have been arguing on social media

Dmitry Rogozin, the director general of Russia's space agency, had a very public argument with a former American astronaut following the implementation of sanctions against Russia.
www.ctvnews.ca www.ctvnews.ca

Dmitry went off and went all @cawolves , in other words he lost his mind, assuming he had one to begin with.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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printer said:
The propellant is designed to burn from the center outward in an even burn. With the cracks in the propellant the flame front goes where it is not suppose to and more is burnt when it is not suppose to. Also if the burn gets behind a piece, the piece can flake off, giving more burn area, causes greater burn rate and pressure inside the rocket. The corrosion of the rocket case causes weak points in the wall. With the increased pressure and the weakened case things go boom rather quickly, as in not far from the person aiming the rocket.

As a disclaimer, I would love to build a few rockets myself but getting the fertilizer is not an easy thing now. Wish I had a farmer friend.
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I figured batteries, gas cannisters and electronics might be the issue. I used to build rockets as a kid too, real DIY ones! Not many commercial rocket motors...
 
printer

printer

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Fogdog said:
We jumped all over didn't we? You didn't even get a chance to finish making your point. But seriously, I think it is good to see what the other side is saying.

I just saw this in the news:

White House warns Russia could use chemical weapons in Ukraine, rejects false ‘conspiracy’ of U.S. biolabs

I wouldn't have known what they were talking about if not for your post.


Seems that Russia created that false conspiracy as a prelude to Sarinizing people. He saw that tactic work in Syria.
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I read the US was concerned about bio or chemical weapons might be used by Russia soon about a week ago. I have been reading too much, even a 100 page report translated from a Russian think tank from 2014 and knowing what we do today the current actions are not a surprise. This all started when Putin got elected and then the real first incursion started in 2008. It might not be a well thought out plan but the general direction has been thought of a long time ago.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Make of it what you will, but someone sees the writing on the wall...
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