amneziaHaze
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than you are looking at one thing and describing the wrong.
Should I flush or not ?
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jondamon
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Links to studies?
jondamon
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What you probably had @amneziaHaze was a high concentration of nutrients caused by incorrect feeding causing the plant to uptake more water than nutrients causing a pH drop which locked out Ca.
amneziaHaze
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amneziaHaze
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yea thats about right. from the start i was giving her too much, but i handle it by visiting her daily . and then one day i had buissness after a few days it was 1000+ppm ....
you can see the diary its updated every 2 days i write ppm when i open the box and ppms when i change anything
Just try flushing then try a run unflushed and decide what you think is best is my advice or say instead you could flush half the number of plants u got and not flush the other half to see what you prefer trust me i get why new growers ask but on most weed forums this one included it pretty much just turns into arguments everyone has an opinion and they dont all agree
jondamon
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Having read this I see nowhere about flushing removing anything from the plant unless you can show me yourself where In the article?
This sticks out to me though
Given that cannabinoids are the compounds that make cannabis so uniquely valuable, more work needs to be done to investigate the effect of mineral nutrition on cannabis yield, and the relationship between yield and potency. Further work should also evaluate other compounds that are known to impact product quality.
Seeing as you linked a study here’s the ones I was talking about.
Cannabis Flushing Research Study
In our research study, RX Green Technologies evaluated the effects of different flushing times on chemical profile, flavor, and smoke of cannabis flower.
www.rxgreentechnologies.com
Around 43mins Bruce talks about flushing.
Bucsfan80
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I can only speak from my personal experience and I don't know if flushing dose anything or not. I have flushed my hydroton to rid salt build up. When I think my girls are two weeks from chop I'll ease the nutes up for a week then top off the last week with just h2o. There is still plenty of nutes in the rez tho so it's not flushing anything. I've never gotten any feed back from anyone saying it was harsh or tasted bad or anything. Like I said that's just my experience and my 2 cents.
jondamon
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Exactly what I do myself.
When you’ve done full hydro and reservoir monitoring trying to find that sweet spot where nutrients and water are taken in at the same rate creating an equilibrium of supply it changes almost weekly.
towards the end of flowering you notice considerable nutrient uptake drop off with reservoir returning higher EC/PPM which is why I tend to reduce my feed towards the end of flowering.
I tend to half my nutrient strength towards the last few weeks of flower which keeps the plants ticking along for ripening.
amneziaHaze
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if you find this link in an older flush thread you will see my responseHaving read this I see nowhere about flushing removing anything from the plant unless you can show me yourself where In the article?
This sticks out to me though
Given that cannabinoids are the compounds that make cannabis so uniquely valuable, more work needs to be done to investigate the effect of mineral nutrition on cannabis yield, and the relationship between yield and potency. Further work should also evaluate other compounds that are known to impact product quality.
Seeing as you linked a study here’s the ones I was talking about.
Cannabis Flushing Research Study
In our research study, RX Green Technologies evaluated the effects of different flushing times on chemical profile, flavor, and smoke of cannabis flower.
Around 43mins Bruce talks about flushing.
jondamon
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if you find this link in an older flush thread you will see my response
I’ve read your study. It doesn't mention flushing!
It’s talking about the Mg/L requirements of NP and K in relation to growth in DWC.
I feel like I’m going in circles with you.
Dr Bugbee is renowned world wide for his research on almost everything to do with growing.
Bruce Bugbee - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
his lighting talks on YouTube are eye opening.
You keep believing in voodoo bro science magic.
So I will bid you good day sir. I’ve had enough of this conversation.
Billy the Mountain
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That's a great point.
If everyone grew using DWC at least once and simply followed what the EC shows, they'd almost certainly be better growers.
amneziaHaze
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its not vodo plant no eat. plant no same amout of nuts in body.
I’ve read your study. It doesn't mention flushing!
It’s talking about the Mg/L requirements of NP and K in relation to growth in DWC.
I feel like I’m going in circles with you.
Dr Bugbee is renowned world wide for his research on almost everything to do with growing.
Bruce Bugbee - Wikipedia
his lighting talks on YouTube are eye opening.
You keep believing in voodoo bro science magic.
So I will bid you good day sir. I’ve had enough of this conversation.
Budzbuddha
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xtsho
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Flushing to cause the "Fade" at the end of a plants life is just starving the plant. That "Fade" is the plant taking nutrients from other parts of the plant to send to the flowers. Why people want yellow leaves at harvest make absolutely no sense. And since those mobile nutrients are sent to the flowers all that's happening is the plant starts dying. You don't smoke the leaves so why would you starve a plant forcing it to cannibalize itself for flower production?
There is real science and then there is cannabis broscience. Those that don't have any experience growing plants other than cannabis typically believe the broscience over actual science as they don't understand fundamental plant science because they have been exposed to broscience for so long. In their minds it makes sense but in reality it doesn't work that way.
Not really worth arguing about as those that think it actually does something will never be convinced that it doesn't. They think it does something and absolutely no amount of actual scientific proof will convince them otherwise. They don't actually understand how a plant uses nutrients and until they do they will continue to believe in flushing/starving their plants.
There is real science and then there is cannabis broscience. Those that don't have any experience growing plants other than cannabis typically believe the broscience over actual science as they don't understand fundamental plant science because they have been exposed to broscience for so long. In their minds it makes sense but in reality it doesn't work that way.
Not really worth arguing about as those that think it actually does something will never be convinced that it doesn't. They think it does something and absolutely no amount of actual scientific proof will convince them otherwise. They don't actually understand how a plant uses nutrients and until they do they will continue to believe in flushing/starving their plants.
twentyeight.threefive
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Asked to provide scientific studies on flushing cannabis. Provides a link to a study that has nothing to do with flushing.
Well done.
Hollatchaboy
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*crickets*
twentyeight.threefive
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When you don't have feet it makes it hard to stand.
