Stoney McFried
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And"drugs fund terrorism"
Drug Interdiction Officers
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ElBarto
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Tell you what, I'm a lot less willing to buy any weed coming through Mexico these days after hearing about all the dead bodies on the border. That's one of the main reasons I decided to get into growing.
Sure, it's nothing that legalization wouldn't solve, but until then, it gives me the creeps to think of my $$$ going to buy the bullets for the cartels.
true that.
Stoney McFried
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They'd get bullets either way.There's always something to sell.
stalebiscuit
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the up high thing is BS by the way. dogs can still smell it
also cops know these tricks and check trash everywhere, also they will let the dog in your car if they have a hard time searching and the dog will find it really close
best idea, dont roll with your stash, if your going somewhere......bike
also cops know these tricks and check trash everywhere, also they will let the dog in your car if they have a hard time searching and the dog will find it really close
best idea, dont roll with your stash, if your going somewhere......bike
stalebiscuit
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looks liek he is rocking a smith and wesson 28, but i dont think he is, probably a .38 smith[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]LIBERATE DRUG DOGS
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ZenMaster
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Incorrect.
The Patriot Act primarily relates very few key individuals related to terrorism or organized crime. It was not put into place so cops can search your car for drugs. You would have an unconditional win in court if they used the guise of the Patriot Act to search your vehicle without probable cause.
For the privileges of the Patriot Act to be eligible, you have to meet a certain criteria to execute it. That criteria is you being connected with terrorism. Officers cannot just pull that card out and do what they want, and if they do, you will win in court. Also, it is the FBI who mainly deploys the privileges of the Patriot Act, not the local PD..they have their own tricks.
I'll say it once again.
The Patriot Act has nothing to do with an officer getting into your car without probable cause. Even with the handy tool of "Delayed Notice Search Warrants", have to be based off of some sort of evidence, weed stickers and key chains is not evidence.
Although the Patriot Act was passed in response to Sept. 11, the report shows prosecutors have used many of the legislation's new powers to pursue cases not related to terrorism. The report cites a case in which prosecutors were able to use the Patriot Act to seize stolen funds that a fugitive lawyer had stashed in bank accounts in Belize. Similar tactics have been used in cases involving drugs, credit-card fraud, theft from a bank account and kidnapping, the report shows.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/05/21/MN34108.DTL
believe what you want kiddo but don't start calling people you don't even know idiots just because you don't fully understand something or think your right. you should know better than that now. and i was wondering.. do you even have personal evidence like work for police or a law firm or do you just google everything. keep it clean! peace zen.
Gryphonn
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I am Australian, but around the time of '9/11' I was seriously into computer security, both as a hobby and professionally.
In my discussions with security professionals in the states, it appeared that the consensus was that the Patriot Act was a poorly planned, poorly executed piece of legislation that should be thrown out the window.
Their common complaint was that the Act did more to remove the rights of innocent US citizens than it did to help prevent terrorism, especially because law enforcement could pull 'The Patriot Act' for just about anything.
I have absolutely no doubt that the Act can and has been abused by officialdom to search property and arrest people for crimes other than terrorist plots. You've not read articles where the Act has been used to access property and surprise! There are drugs and money here, but no terrorist plot or bombs?
In the seventies and eighties, Police Officers in Queensland, Australia could walk into your home, say "we're looking for firearms", then proceed to rip posters off walls, tear open lounge chair cushions and generally destroy your household, then walk out without so much as a "sorry about the inconvenience".
good stuff
Stoney McFried
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Zen,they will use it against you, and in fact have.http://action.aclu.org/reformthepatriotact/facts.html
dogglet forever
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we should ride bikes anyways...LOL
Stoney McFried
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We should, but they hurt your taint....
we should ride bikes anyways...LOL
ZenMaster
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Do you people even read what I say?
I never said the Patriot Act was not abused. I said that it could not be used when an officer is trying to search your vehicle without probable cause. And it can't.
I'll pitch you the scenario.
You were pulled over for switching lanes in an intersection, the officer walks up to your car and gets the impression that you are a toker of the marijuana for whatever reason, lets say your hoodie. Please define how he could use the patriot act to search your car right then and there. There is no probable cause because were not smoking and there is no visible paraphernalia.
That was a rhetorical question, the answer is that he cannot, regardless of what propaganda you might have read about the Patriot Act. I'm not defending the Patriot Act in the slightest, however you are blowing it out of proportion. The Patriot Act does not affect 99% of population.
I never said the Patriot Act was not abused. I said that it could not be used when an officer is trying to search your vehicle without probable cause. And it can't.
I'll pitch you the scenario.
You were pulled over for switching lanes in an intersection, the officer walks up to your car and gets the impression that you are a toker of the marijuana for whatever reason, lets say your hoodie. Please define how he could use the patriot act to search your car right then and there. There is no probable cause because were not smoking and there is no visible paraphernalia.
That was a rhetorical question, the answer is that he cannot, regardless of what propaganda you might have read about the Patriot Act. I'm not defending the Patriot Act in the slightest, however you are blowing it out of proportion. The Patriot Act does not affect 99% of population.
dogglet forever
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so does the wooden bench down at county...
barrgemike
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You know, it all depends on where you live, i've seen cops rip kids out of cars and throw them on the ground and search them and find nothing on any of them and then just go on they're merry way.
And i'd expect the law enforcement is different everywhere, Some places in FL cops are awesome, i've been caught with roachs and shit and they just take them and throw them out and let me go with a seat belt fine or something.
There is no law, they do what they want.
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