Outdoor show an tell 2025

Only thing iam giving up is wasting my time growing trees that rot out 3 weeks before they are done. Shit last yr after contacting an talking with Vashon I went with his early bird they told me it was mold proof an most phenos were done mid sept LOL well the 3th week in oct they turned to mush overnight an they still had at least 3 more weeks to go. So the way i see it really not giving up any thing other than beating my self up trying to grow trees in the ground.
So, you have experience and cannot grow outdoors. Why keep trying? You could grow in pots and bring them into an enclosed, or covered area every night, but that's a lot of work and dedication. The sunshine might be worth the effort. I wouldn't trust anyone that says, "this plant finishes early." It's a sales gimmick. I've tried them before and it's a lie. I'm in an area that gets heavy fog in Oct. sometimes, and those varieties don't finish early. They're like usual.
 
So, you have experience and cannot grow outdoors. Why keep trying? You could grow in pots and bring them into an enclosed, or covered area every night, but that's a lot of work and dedication. The sunshine might be worth the effort. I wouldn't trust anyone that says, "this plant finishes early." It's a sales gimmick. I've tried them before and it's a lie. I'm in an area that gets heavy fog in Oct. sometimes, and those varieties don't finish early. They're like usual.
I've had plants reliably finish mid to late Sept. in OKlahoma outdoors. Its not that uncommon. They were photo period, not autos.
 
So, you have experience and cannot grow outdoors. Why keep trying? You could grow in pots and bring them into an enclosed, or covered area every night, but that's a lot of work and dedication. The sunshine might be worth the effort. I wouldn't trust anyone that says, "this plant finishes early." It's a sales gimmick. I've tried them before and it's a lie. I'm in an area that gets heavy fog in Oct. sometimes, and those varieties don't finish early. They're like usual.
Good lord I have been doing this thread for yrs I have done everything you just mentioned LOL Go back to politics been growing outdoor 40 yrs well known here. The climate is changing fast here what worked 10 yrs ago does not work anymore, By the way if you looked at one of my pictures you would see I grow in a 20-30 hoophouse thats gets covered each yr with plenty of fans.?
 
Good lord I have been doing this thread for yrs I have done everything you just mentioned LOL Go back to politics been growing outdoor 40 yrs well known here. The climate is changing fast here what worked 10 yrs ago does not work anymore, By the way if you looked at one of my pictures you would see I grow in a 20-30 hoophouse thats gets covered each yr with plenty of fans.?
Everyone has a opinion and it is based on their experience quite often it is narrow.
A lot has to do with the environment the plants grow in, I an fairly sure in my garden I have a micro climate that gives me an advantage others don't have. I could water for two days and the ground would never get water logged or flood, I am on a sand pit that was excavated and used to build NYC.
Trees are great but they do have down sides had to manage and inspect a 15 foot tall plant on a slope. But PTK is in the 12 foot range at moment no real start of flowering. I have a plague of lantern flies and the vacuum I was using to get them was rolled into a 1/2 drum of water by the raccoon.
So we often have issues other don't in our quest for a good burn. You can lean a bit from others but following exactly what they do just might not work. You need to understand your issues and provide a method to correct them.
The environment is changing I used to lobster in the LI Sound now any decent lobster are found north of Cape Cod.
 
Everyone has a opinion and it is based on their experience quite often it is narrow.
A lot has to do with the environment the plants grow in, I an fairly sure in my garden I have a micro climate that gives me an advantage others don't have. I could water for two days and the ground would never get water logged or flood, I am on a sand pit that was excavated and used to build NYC.
Trees are great but they do have down sides had to manage and inspect a 15 foot tall plant on a slope. But PTK is in the 12 foot range at moment no real start of flowering. I have a plague of lantern flies and the vacuum I was using to get them was rolled into a 1/2 drum of water by the raccoon.
So we often have issues other don't in our quest for a good burn. You can lean a bit from others but following exactly what they do just might not work. You need to understand your issues and provide a method to correct them.
The environment is changing I used to lobster in the LI Sound now any decent lobster are found north of Cape Cod.
I think my biggest problem is climate, An i cash crop in a tight market so cutting a couple weeks early is worthless to me other than head stash. I told myself last yr no more inground plants old habits are tough to break LOL Still holding my breath on the crippys doing a little breeding with a few things.
 
I think my biggest problem is climate, An i cash crop in a tight market so cutting a couple weeks early is worthless to me other than head stash. I told myself last yr no more inground plants old habits are tough to break LOL Still holding my breath on the crippys doing a little breeding with a few things.
I feel sorry for you, a lot of effort then shit gets moldy, I have that but not until October usually. Here are some pics of the current batch.
 

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I think my biggest problem is climate, An i cash crop in a tight market so cutting a couple weeks early is worthless to me other than head stash. I told myself last yr no more inground plants old habits are tough to break LOL Still holding my breath on the crippys doing a little breeding with a few things.
With your knowledge and my NCA dry/arid climate…man o man…I can’t even dream what they would do. Wish I could bottle some and send it over ✌️
 
Group shot; 79' Xmas tree x Jagger front left, Puck BC3 front right, Deep chunk center left, Uzbekistani center right, Deep chunk rear left, and another Puck BC3 rear right that you can't see.
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Deep chunk still putting out huge leaves, that's a five gallon bucket lid for scale.
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Really starting to see the pre-flowering stretch on everyone outside. I also gave them some Potash yesterday and all responded nicely. Also just placed an order for some GeckoGrow Bloom and should be here soonish.the 2nd pic, my CBG, I had to moved the pot to give more room between everyone and she had rooted into the ground from the few air holes I drilled into the bottom of the garbage can

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I'm impressed with these jager punch so far. 2/3 are showing signs of being well into flower, they have been stretching like crazy the past 10 days and you can some pre flowers forming with all the pistils at the tips of the branches. Unfortunately I amended the soil a little too light and these are not the shade of green I want. Lots of purple stems too but that's definitely the genetics.If this was a rainy year, and with these pots being directly in the swamp water, I wouldnt be able to water anything in but luckily its been a fairly dry july and the swamp isnt so wet and the next 10 days is looking sunny and dry so ill be able to water in supplemental fertilizer and top dress some dry amendments with compost. Pest pressure has been high this year but alternating spinosad and wettable sulpur foliar spraying is keeping them at bay.
 
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I'm impressed with these jager punch so far. 2/3 are showing signs of being well into flower, they have been stretching like crazy the past 10 days and you can some pre flowers forming with all the pistils at the tips of the branches. Unfortunately I amended the soil a little too light and these are not the shade of green I want. Lots of purple stems too but that's definitely the genetics.If this was a rainy year, and with these pots being directly in the swamp water, I wouldnt be able to water anything in but luckily its been a fairly dry july and the swamp isnt so wet and the next 10 days is looking sunny and dry so ill be able to water in supplemental fertilizer and top dress some dry amendments with compost. Pest pressure has been high this year but alternating spinosad and wettable sulpur foliar spraying is keeping them at bay.
Looking great i grew in the swamps of maine for many yrs not many people do this now with legal growing.
 
Looking great i grew in the swamps of maine for many yrs not many people do this now with legal growing.
Yep when I started growing in high school and early twenties I only grew outdoors in wetland areas, back when it was illegal. In a densely populated state like massachusetts the wetlands are one of the only places you grow and not worry about people wondering into your plot...most of the time. Any sort of meadow or clearing in the woods will have visitors at some point. It's also nice to not have to worry about watering and you get a ton of direct sun because of no tree cover. My yard gets very little direct sun because I have a ton of big oaks and shagbark hickory, luckily my property extends well into the swamp so its a no brainer to grow in it. I'm even thinking of building a little platform so I can put my potted fig trees out here where they'll do much better.
 
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