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000420
terpenophenolic
POT IS A PLANT.....I GUESS PREGNANT WOMEN SHOULD NOT EAT GREEN BEANS EITHER????........I can not believe that pot got grouped with meth and crack...
step out of the weed madness days...don't be ignorant...don't fuel the lies...Cannabis is harmless......Stop treating it like a drug
Doctors prescribe horrible pharmaceuticals to pregos every day, and epiderals right at the childs birth, the kids come out drugged as fuck. but it's pharma from a doctor so that's safe....WAKE UP!!.......my wife didn't take any fucking drugs not even a fucking asprin and when she gave birth to both our kids no drugs of any kind, no epi...just natural....but she smoked a shit load of weed the whole time....that's what we wnated...I would rather that than except the poisons the doctors try to feed us...both kids are healthy since the day they were born and are honor roll students......
step out of the weed madness days...don't be ignorant...don't fuel the lies...Cannabis is harmless......Stop treating it like a drug
Doctors prescribe horrible pharmaceuticals to pregos every day, and epiderals right at the childs birth, the kids come out drugged as fuck. but it's pharma from a doctor so that's safe....WAKE UP!!.......my wife didn't take any fucking drugs not even a fucking asprin and when she gave birth to both our kids no drugs of any kind, no epi...just natural....but she smoked a shit load of weed the whole time....that's what we wnated...I would rather that than except the poisons the doctors try to feed us...both kids are healthy since the day they were born and are honor roll students......
pandabear
Well-Known Member
well my gurl doesnt smoke weed but it was some big fights when I caught her sneaking a cig while preg when I was able to catch her, i mean what if god forbid your child was born messed up somehow, you would never know if it was cuz somthing you did that your werent supposed to while preg, you could never know for sure, so you could end up feeling guilty for the rest of your life when it was somthing that was gonna happen anyway
but come on guys, pot is not harmless man, its not exatly natual for you body to inhale smoke, of any kind and it does have an effect. my lungs hurt right now from my new binger
it also causes memory loss which im saying from expiriance
i wouldnt recommend it for babies, i mean we dont even let people under 18 in here and now yall wanna smoke out with a bunch of babies!!!!
but come on guys, pot is not harmless man, its not exatly natual for you body to inhale smoke, of any kind and it does have an effect. my lungs hurt right now from my new binger
it also causes memory loss which im saying from expiriancei wouldnt recommend it for babies, i mean we dont even let people under 18 in here and now yall wanna smoke out with a bunch of babies!!!!
Garden Knowm
The Love Doctor
question.. is that you in the av....? are those your cans?
i have a friend whose mom smoked during preganct.. she blames her low WEIGHT on the fact that her mom smoked...
just thought i'd throw that in...
but i don't wanna harsh anybody or hurt there feelings...
if in doubt,,, smoke kak, unitl there is conclusive evidence about smoking weed
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pandabear
Well-Known Member
yea I agree, you guys heard of the evidence that cannbinoids prevent cancer, its actually been recognized by the Britsh heart association that cannabinoids in your lungs help prevent cancer
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Cannabinoids As Cancer Hope[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]by Paul Armentano[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Senior Policy Analyst[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NORML | NORML Foundation[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“Cannabinoids possess … anticancer activity [and may] possibly represent a new class of anti-cancer drugs that retard cancer growth, inhibit angiogenesis (the formation of new blood vessels) and the metastatic spreading of cancer cells." So concludes a comprehensive review published in the October 2005 issue of the scientific journal Mini-Reviews in Medicinal Chemistry. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Not familiar with the emerging body of research touting cannabis' ability to stave the spread of certain types of cancers? You're not alone.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For over 30 years, US politicians and bureaucrats have systematically turned a blind eye to scientific research indicating that marijuana may play a role in cancer prevention -- a finding that was first documented in 1974. That year, a research team at the Medical College of Virginia (acting at the behest of the federal government) discovered that cannabis inhibited malignant tumor cell growth in culture and in mice. According to the study's results, reported nationally in an Aug. 18, 1974, Washington Post newspaper feature, administration of marijuana's primary cannabinoid THC, "slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Despite these favorable preclinical findings, US government officials dismissed the study (which was eventually published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute in 1975), and refused to fund any follow-up research until conducting a similar –- though secret –- clinical trial in the mid-1990s. That study, conducted by the US National Toxicology Program to the tune of $2 million concluded that mice and rats administered high doses of THC over long periods experienced greater protection against malignant tumors than untreated controls.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rather than publicize their findings, government researchers once again shelved the results, which only came to light after a draft copy of its findings were leaked in 1997 to a medical journal, which in turn forwarded the story to the national media.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nevertheless, in the decade since the completion of the National Toxicology trial, the U.S. government has yet to encourage or fund additional, follow up studies examining the cannabinoids' potential to protect against the spread cancerous tumors. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fortunately, scientists overseas have generously picked up where US researchers so abruptly left off. In 1998, a research team at Madrid's Complutense University discovered that THC can selectively induce apoptosis (program cell death) in brain tumor cells without negatively impacting the surrounding healthy cells. Then in 2000, they reported in the journal Nature Medicine that injections of synthetic THC eradicated malignant gliomas (brain tumors) in one-third of treated rats, and prolonged life in another third by six weeks.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In 2003, researchers at the University of Milan in Naples, Italy, reported that non-psychoactive compounds in marijuana inhibited the growth of glioma cells in a dose dependent manner and selectively targeted and killed malignant cancer cells.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The following year, researchers reported in the journal of the American Association for Cancer Research that marijuana's constituents inhibited the spread of brain cancer in human tumor biopsies. In a related development, a research team from the University of South Florida further noted that THC can also selectively inhibit the activation and replication of gamma herpes viruses. The viruses, which can lie dormant for years within white blood cells before becoming active and spreading to other cells, are thought to increase one's chances of developing cancers such as Karposis Sarcoma, Burkitts lymphoma, and Hodgkins disease.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]More recently, investigators published pre-clinical findings demonstrating that cannabinoids may play a role in inhibiting cell growth of colectoral cancer, skin carcinoma, breast cancer, and prostate cancer, among other conditions. When investigators compared the efficacy of natural cannabinoids to that of a synthetic agonist, THC proved far more beneficial – selectively decreasing the proliferation of malignant cells and inducing apoptosis more rapidly than its synthetic alternative while simultaneously leaving healthy cells unscathed. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nevertheless, US politicians have been little swayed by these results, and remain steadfastly opposed to the notion of sponsoring – or even acknowledging – this growing body clinical research, preferring instead to promote the unfounded notion that cannabis use causes cancer. Until this bias changes, expect the bulk of research investigating the use of cannabinoids as anticancer agents to remain overseas and, regrettably, overlooked in the public discourse.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Cannabinoids As Cancer Hope[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Join the Discussion[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]by Paul Armentano[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Senior Policy Analyst[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]NORML | NORML Foundation[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“Cannabinoids possess … anticancer activity [and may] possibly represent a new class of anti-cancer drugs that retard cancer growth, inhibit angiogenesis (the formation of new blood vessels) and the metastatic spreading of cancer cells." So concludes a comprehensive review published in the October 2005 issue of the scientific journal Mini-Reviews in Medicinal Chemistry. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Not familiar with the emerging body of research touting cannabis' ability to stave the spread of certain types of cancers? You're not alone.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For over 30 years, US politicians and bureaucrats have systematically turned a blind eye to scientific research indicating that marijuana may play a role in cancer prevention -- a finding that was first documented in 1974. That year, a research team at the Medical College of Virginia (acting at the behest of the federal government) discovered that cannabis inhibited malignant tumor cell growth in culture and in mice. According to the study's results, reported nationally in an Aug. 18, 1974, Washington Post newspaper feature, administration of marijuana's primary cannabinoid THC, "slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Despite these favorable preclinical findings, US government officials dismissed the study (which was eventually published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute in 1975), and refused to fund any follow-up research until conducting a similar –- though secret –- clinical trial in the mid-1990s. That study, conducted by the US National Toxicology Program to the tune of $2 million concluded that mice and rats administered high doses of THC over long periods experienced greater protection against malignant tumors than untreated controls.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rather than publicize their findings, government researchers once again shelved the results, which only came to light after a draft copy of its findings were leaked in 1997 to a medical journal, which in turn forwarded the story to the national media.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nevertheless, in the decade since the completion of the National Toxicology trial, the U.S. government has yet to encourage or fund additional, follow up studies examining the cannabinoids' potential to protect against the spread cancerous tumors. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Fortunately, scientists overseas have generously picked up where US researchers so abruptly left off. In 1998, a research team at Madrid's Complutense University discovered that THC can selectively induce apoptosis (program cell death) in brain tumor cells without negatively impacting the surrounding healthy cells. Then in 2000, they reported in the journal Nature Medicine that injections of synthetic THC eradicated malignant gliomas (brain tumors) in one-third of treated rats, and prolonged life in another third by six weeks.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In 2003, researchers at the University of Milan in Naples, Italy, reported that non-psychoactive compounds in marijuana inhibited the growth of glioma cells in a dose dependent manner and selectively targeted and killed malignant cancer cells.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The following year, researchers reported in the journal of the American Association for Cancer Research that marijuana's constituents inhibited the spread of brain cancer in human tumor biopsies. In a related development, a research team from the University of South Florida further noted that THC can also selectively inhibit the activation and replication of gamma herpes viruses. The viruses, which can lie dormant for years within white blood cells before becoming active and spreading to other cells, are thought to increase one's chances of developing cancers such as Karposis Sarcoma, Burkitts lymphoma, and Hodgkins disease.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]More recently, investigators published pre-clinical findings demonstrating that cannabinoids may play a role in inhibiting cell growth of colectoral cancer, skin carcinoma, breast cancer, and prostate cancer, among other conditions. When investigators compared the efficacy of natural cannabinoids to that of a synthetic agonist, THC proved far more beneficial – selectively decreasing the proliferation of malignant cells and inducing apoptosis more rapidly than its synthetic alternative while simultaneously leaving healthy cells unscathed. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nevertheless, US politicians have been little swayed by these results, and remain steadfastly opposed to the notion of sponsoring – or even acknowledging – this growing body clinical research, preferring instead to promote the unfounded notion that cannabis use causes cancer. Until this bias changes, expect the bulk of research investigating the use of cannabinoids as anticancer agents to remain overseas and, regrettably, overlooked in the public discourse.[/FONT]
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I'd rather see a pregnant woman smokin a joint than a cigarette any day...... wow it is amazing how many people have lumped crack and weed into the same thing........... I'm gonna blow some minds with this one WEED IS NOT ANYTHING LIKE CRACK. If people think about it in the same light why even bother growing herb, cooking rocks is much quicker and makes way more money.
HumboldtGreenz
Well-Known Member
Don't be so naive, marijuana is a drug, like it or not. You can't change the fact that something's a drug just because you're in denial of it.
You shouldn't take any medicine while pregnant except your neonatal vitamins, IMO. You're getting fucking HIGH, shit is going on upstairs and throughout your body. That sedative feeling doesn't come from nowhere. For christ's sake you're not even supposed to eat canned fish while pregnant.
canned fish is processed by man. hmm. what about fresh fish?
some women have "complicated" pregnancies. no, not ALL women should use marijuana during pregnancy. i do feel there "MAY" be a case where it could be helpful. that's all i'm saying. i've heard nothing but positive in this area. you can say it's harmful, by common sense it certainly would seem that way, i'm sure it has it's benefits though. we need more research.
some women have "complicated" pregnancies. no, not ALL women should use marijuana during pregnancy. i do feel there "MAY" be a case where it could be helpful. that's all i'm saying. i've heard nothing but positive in this area. you can say it's harmful, by common sense it certainly would seem that way, i'm sure it has it's benefits though. we need more research.
HumboldtGreenz
Well-Known Member
Dried and cured bud has also been processed by man.
Fresh fish also has limits, it all depends on the fish and its habitat. Surely a fish from a fresh brook or clean river will have less mercury than a tuna in a school close to a harbor.
Dried and cured bud has also been processed by man.
Fresh fish also has limits, it all depends on the fish and its habitat. Surely a fish from a fresh brook or clean river will have less mercury than a tuna in a school close to a harbor.
not in my area.
HumboldtGreenz
Well-Known Member
Bring that harvest up north, I'll take you fishing.
000420
terpenophenolic
It's only a drug if you say it is....words get meaning because we give them meaning...so believe what you want,,,but you are being naive.....neonatal vitamins...POISON!!...all vitaman supplements are junk.....they are not even good sources of the vitamins they are saying you are taking..the body doesn't break them down well....A healthy diet is a much smarter alternative...to more pills.......being seduced by big pharma and doctors is really naive.....believe what you want....POT IS NOT A DRUG, it is much much more than just that.......
Jordy Villain
Well-Known Member
you're a dumbass. You don't inhale smoke when there's a fetus inside of you. You just don't. a vaporizor on the other hand...
000420
terpenophenolic
I guess you would be the expert, since you have had so many fetus' in you right?...wait you don't even know what you are talking about do you?....Do you know that Cannabis smoke is unique to other smokes?...It is the best expectorant available, it removes toxins from your lungs, unlike other smokes which ad toxins...cannabis smoke has been shown to hinder lung cancer, it actually kills cancer cells.....go get educated before you call some one a dumb ass......you are ignorant...and you believe the lies that are fed to you.....you should stop smoking pot.....
Jordy Villain
Well-Known Member
*to fdd* exactly. you could've gotten high without being irresponsible. That was honestly, a selfish move. And anyone can say I'm judging her. she made the thread.
*to 000420* I'm not one to sit down and watch after school special but I am one who takes college level biology. Smoke (in any form, from anything.. you fucking jackass) can be damaging to lung tissue. also, it's not just about the baby's lungs, it's about all the cells. The thing is DEVELOPING, no defenses, directly affected by everything it's mother does. you can't sit here and say SMOKING weed can't RISK you damaging a fetus. whether or not it did, it was a stupid thing to even chance. so fuck you.
*to 000420* I'm not one to sit down and watch after school special but I am one who takes college level biology. Smoke (in any form, from anything.. you fucking jackass) can be damaging to lung tissue. also, it's not just about the baby's lungs, it's about all the cells. The thing is DEVELOPING, no defenses, directly affected by everything it's mother does. you can't sit here and say SMOKING weed can't RISK you damaging a fetus. whether or not it did, it was a stupid thing to even chance. so fuck you.
WhatAmIDoing
Well-Known Member
Okay, i didn't get through all these, but i dont' think anyone is in a position to be saying what someone should or shouldn't do. everybody's different, therefore the physical and mental needs and capabilities vary. therefore, if it seemed natural or wise at the time, and nothing bad happened from it...fuck off everybody who's trying to argue this point. I have no arguement, just a great congratulations for the new mother
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