Ron Paul Revolution

ViRedd

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yeah, i agree that corporations shouldn't run things - even if the corporation is called Federal Government it's very dangerous when huge, inhuman bureau-structures manage so many aspects of our lives.

you never have convinced me that your vision of a free America consisting of millions of starving ex-middle class citizens is anything more than a big government inspired nightmare... every time you paint this picture it makes me think of actual photographs from the soviet union, china, DPRK and other places where socialism has devastated the people. when i think of liberty it give me hope... i guess you're conditioned to have the opposite reaction.
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And this is exactly what socialists like Med don't get.

Vi
 

medicineman

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and, why are you cynical that dems would register rep in large numbers to support the only pro-peace, pro-sovereignty, pro-borders, pro-people candidate running???

i wasn't surprised at all, i know many dems who still abide by the JFK philosophy instead of the socialist new world order, they want a voice too!






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You should know by now that I am no fan of NWO, and no fan of large government. Think about this: I'll trade the FBI, NSA, CIA, NWO, NAFTA, and any other police and spy organizations for socialized medicine, what say you? Hell we could eliminate a few congressmen and a whole bunch of lobbiests. I'd even be for cleaning out 90% of the washington crowd. Then we could start on overpaid CEOs. Quit with your communist crapola. I'm for people not huge corporations or huge government.
 

ViRedd

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You should know by now that I am no fan of NWO, and no fan of large government. Think about this: I'll trade the FBI, NSA, CIA, NWO, NAFTA, and any other police and spy organizations for socialized medicine, what say you? Hell we could eliminate a few congressmen and a whole bunch of lobbiests. I'd even be for cleaning out 90% of the washington crowd. Then we could start on overpaid CEOs. Quit with your communist crapola. I'm for people not huge corporations or huge government.
OK, I hear you Med. But ... why trade anything for socialized medicine? By your above post, you clearly can see that big government doesn't work, so why hand over to them one seventh of the U.S. economy?

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medicineman

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OK, I hear you Med. But ... why trade anything for socialized medicine? By your above post, you clearly can see that big government doesn't work, so why hand over to them one seventh of the U.S. economy?

Vi
My VA and SS work very well, thank you.
 

ViRedd

New Member
My VA and SS work very well, thank you.
And that's called legal plunder. Don't be offended Med ... I do the same thing, but at some point, Americans will have to say enough is enough and to Hell with the flexable principles. That time will come, just as it did in Eastern Europe. Personally, I believe its sooner than we think. I give the Internet a lot of credit for keeping the average guy informed.

Vi
 

7xstall

Well-Known Member
October 17, 2007


The other day, my old sparring partner in so many Congressional
committee hearings, Alan Greenspan, was on the Fox Business Channel. After
Alan promoted his new book, the reporter asked if we really needed a
central bank. Greenspan looked stunned, and then said that was a good
question; he actually talked about fiat money vs. a gold standard. Now, the
ex-Fed chairman is not about to endorse our sound monetary policy, but
you know our Revolution is working when such a question is asked in the
mainstream media, and this powerful man gives such an answer.

You and I are reopening a whole host of questions that the
establishment thought it had closed off forever: on war, on taxes and spending, on
inflation and gold, and on the rule of law and our Constitution.

A few years ago, I asked a famous conservative columnist a question.
What did he think about the prospects for a restored Robert Taft wing of
the Republican party? He thought I was joking. As you know, I was not.

After all the aggressive wars, the assaults on our privacy and civil
liberties, the oppressive taxation, and the crazed spending and deficits,
I believe that many Republican voters are ready to return to our
roots. And the big boys feel it too. It is no coincidence that the
Republican National Committee invited me to a fundraising dinner involving only
"top-tier candidates."

Some of the opposition claims that I am not a "real Republican,"
whereas I am the only one in the race. And our campaign is registering new
Republican voters by the boatload. None of my opponents is doing anything
approaching that.

Of course, they pooh-pooh our success. "He's just registering Democrats
and Independents and people who have never voted before." Well, yes.
It's called growth. We are laying the groundwork for the primaries.

All over America, our support is wide and deep and growing, and young
people are joining like never before. After the Dearborn debate, I went
to the University of Michigan for a rally. 2,000 students turned out,
something that has happened to no other candidate this year.

The crowd cheered all our ideas, but especially our opposition to the
Federal Reserve, and our support for real money of gold and silver, as
the Constitution mandates, instead of prosperity-wrecking fiat money.
American politics hasn't seen anything like this in many decades. It is
truly revolutionary.

But time is getting short. We must do massive radio and TV advertising,
open many small offices (three in just South Carolina the other day),
staff them, pay all the bills, and turn out our vote with massive
organizational and phone-bank efforts.

As you know, the blackout is ending; our campaign is starting to get
mainstream media attention, thanks to growing donations and volunteers.
And contributions are the key to more attention, and to our being able
to do the actual work of victory. Good news: our recent green-eyeshade
analysis of all the candidates' net finances, which got so much press
attention, shows our campaign as one of only three in the top-tier.

But we must keep moving up, and the Iowa caucuses are now on January
3rd. The New Hampshire primary may be in early December!

As always, everything depends on you. Please, make the most generous
donation you can https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ as soon as you can.
I need your help so badly.

The other day, an 8-year-old boy handed me a small white envelope. It
contained the $4.00 he had saved from his allowance, as a donation to
our campaign. I can't tell you how seriously I take my responsibility to
work hard, and spend frugally and effectively, to be worthy of his
support, and yours.

Please help me keep working, even harder and more effectively, for all
we believe in. Without you, I'd have to pack it in. Donate now
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ . We have more than an election
to win. We have a country to save.

Ron Paul






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medicineman

New Member
When he passes Rudy, let me know as I might be interested, one good thing about Paul is it may be splitting the Repuke vote, and when he doesn't get the nomination, they will just stay home and not vote for Rudy. That is a bright spot on my horizon, ~LOL~.
 

7xstall

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i haven't met anyone who would vote for Rudy.

is there anyone on this site who would? anyone for Mr. 9/11 dancing on the rubble that was the world trade center while talking about how he's going to protect us and save us from the invading mean people who are everywhere so much of the time?





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medicineman

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I hope chrissuperfly reads this as this pretty much turns his theory that the soldiers like to be in Iraq on it's head. The reason the military guys are backing Paul is He will stop the insane war and foriegn policies of the USA. If Paul wins, I give him 90 days before the real leaders have him assasinated. I'm sure they have a list of nutballs like Oswald they can blame it on. The elites are not about to let a real change happen to their sweet setup. I wonder if I'm on the nutball list, only it wouldn't be Paul that I'd go after.
 

Chrisuperfly

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I hope chrissuperfly reads this as this pretty much turns his theory that the soldiers like to be in Iraq on it's head. The reason the military guys are backing Paul is He will stop the insane war and foriegn policies of the USA. If Paul wins, I give him 90 days before the real leaders have him assasinated. I'm sure they have a list of nutballs like Oswald they can blame it on. The elites are not about to let a real change happen to their sweet setup. I wonder if I'm on the nutball list, only it wouldn't be Paul that I'd go after.
Not sure how to interpret the article, it says military affiliates.

Paul received $63,440 in donations from current military employees and several retired military personnel.

OK whats the break-down. How many retired and how many active duty?

More than a third of Paul's military-related contributions came from Army affiliates; a third came from the Air Force; and a fourth from Navy donors. The rest came from affiliates of the Marines and other branches.

This doesnt answer the question either. Everything is very vague.

He was followed by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, a decorated Navy pilot and former Vietnam prisoner of war, who received $48,208 in military-related giving. McCain has been one of the most vigorous defenders of President Bush's decision this year to increase U.S. troops in Iraq.

So if the troops want out why are they giving money to McCain?


I am not refuting anything I'd just like to see the fine print on these donations. That would determine whether or not things have changed. I will get up with a couple of old friends of mine that are still active duty (Master Sergeant and CWO4) and get their take.
 

medicineman

New Member
WOW, anti socialized medicine, who would have guessed. I think that just sunk my boat. I like a lot of his ideas, but stopping my medical and turning social security over to wall street, no thanks. Wall street can tank at any time, and I can't afford the medical I'm getting in the private sector, Bye-Bye Paul, it's looking like Billary.
 

7xstall

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WOW, anti socialized medicine, who would have guessed. I think that just sunk my boat. I like a lot of his ideas, but stopping my medical and turning social security over to wall street, no thanks. Wall street can tank at any time, and I can't afford the medical I'm getting in the private sector, Bye-Bye Paul, it's looking like Billary.

ummm, if you thought i would support anyone who wants to build a government empire out of mismanaging the health of citizens you're a lot less smart than i gave you credit for.

only a parasite would plunder the health of the nation to get on a higher political pedestal. it takes a leader to actually fix the problems. looks like you'll go with parasites, thanks for freeing up some room on the ship!







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7xstall

Well-Known Member
Not sure how to interpret the article, it says military affiliates.

Paul received $63,440 in donations from current military employees and several retired military personnel.

OK whats the break-down. How many retired and how many active duty?

More than a third of Paul's military-related contributions came from Army affiliates; a third came from the Air Force; and a fourth from Navy donors. The rest came from affiliates of the Marines and other branches.

This doesnt answer the question either. Everything is very vague.

He was followed by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, a decorated Navy pilot and former Vietnam prisoner of war, who received $48,208 in military-related giving. McCain has been one of the most vigorous defenders of President Bush's decision this year to increase U.S. troops in Iraq.

So if the troops want out why are they giving money to McCain?


I am not refuting anything I'd just like to see the fine print on these donations. That would determine whether or not things have changed. I will get up with a couple of old friends of mine that are still active duty (Master Sergeant and CWO4) and get their take.
fighting aggressive, preemptive foreign wars is un-American, Chris. un-American. that's why those people support Ron Paul.

we've lost our way.






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Chrisuperfly

Well-Known Member
I think the American public, in general, are tired of big government. It has been that way since I can remember. I remember Ross Perot had a big following from the military back in '92, people are just tired of big government and will try to back those that are as well.
 
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