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Disco Pwnstar said:
actually 23,000 people have been murdered in mexico so americans can get high. imagine 23,000 deaths in america due to american cartels fighting for the corridors into mexico. this is what pisses me off, why cant americans just step back and see the bigger picture. have some compassion.
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20,000+ people a year die from drunk driving in america and they aren't outlawing alcohol or cars.
 
Nothing worse than a scared ignorant population that is armed. I am a gun owner. I Federal government holds the power to regulate and place restrictions on arms. I'm sorry if some people like to shoot machine guns, they are fun. The only problem is why do civillians need military weaponry? The framers of the constitituion could not have forseen how weapons would evolve.
 
16,750 suicides (56% of all U.S gun deaths),
11,624 homicides (40% of all U.S gun deaths),
649 unintentional shootings, 311 from legal intervention and 235 from undetermined intent (4% of all U.S gun deaths combined).
-Numbers obtained from CDC National Center for Health Statistics mortality report online, 2007
 
We have alot of guns and we like to kill eachother and ourselves. It doesn't seem to me that lax gun laws are furthering society in any way.
 
I'm in Canada, I just did my 2 day firearms course and 2 day Ontario hunting course in the winter. I get a licence and will register my guns which I will use to hunt and target shoot. This did not seem like a big deal to me but many others I know complain about it. I don't see it as a bad thing to register guns, I think only careless people who have them for means other than hunting or target shooting complain about it. Its irresponsible gun owners that give everyone else a bad name.
 
tinyTURTLE said:
20,000+ people a year die from drunk driving in america and they aren't outlawing alcohol or cars.
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that is american policy affecting americans, this is american policy MURDERING mexicans. and i dont know if you know this already, but they already tried outlawing alcohol.
 
Yeah alot of the weapons sold in the U.S. are smuggled into Mexico to be used in the Border Wars. You know not many Americans even know whats happening in Mexico.
 
Kidnapping capital of the USA ... Pheonix Arizona. Kind of why the Governor STEPPED UP to the plate....since the FEDS can't even get a fence built anymore.
 
yeah, a lot of americans also dont know that we are increasing our forces in columbia because of our beef with venezuela (the largest new oil producer and possible canidate for OPEC). what's going on in mexico is just the kind of "political instability" they love to use to force themselves into a(n oil-producing) region, and look at that... the tell tale trail of oil.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-bases-in-oilrich-south-america-1825398.html
 
CrackerJax said:
Kidnapping capital of the USA ... Pheonix Arizona. Kind of why the Governor STEPPED UP to the plate....since the FEDS can't even get a fence built anymore.
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the feds CAN build a fence (cheaply too). but there is more incentive in catching the money that flows south and west, than the drugs that flow north and east. if they build a fence they cant allow the drugs into the country. if the drugs cant get in, they cant collect the derivatives.
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well, i for one don't buy drugs that come over any borders.
unless I'm having a margarita, if you consider alcohol a drug.
 
I'll have to give it to you. You're right. The FEDs care more about oil than a war happening next door. I guess is because the price of oil effects EVERY American directly. War in Mexico... four states, and not all the residents there see a direct impact.

I guess would could put more resources into it. But as long as the war MOSTLY stays next door and doesn't spill over to the US with massive body counts, most Americans will turn a blind eye or just continue to be ignorant to the fact.

Off topic: Doesn't Mexico have a new billionare? Think his hands are clean from all that shit that happens near the border? Bish, please!!
 
Disco Pwnstar said:
the feds CAN build a fence (cheaply too). but there is more incentive in catching the money that flows south and west, than the drugs that flow north and east. if they build a fence they cant allow the drugs into the country. if the drugs cant get in, they cant collect the derivatives.
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Oh I see... it's a conspiracy to not finish it..... which puts the Democrats in bed with the drug trade.... think it through.

Arizona is in the firing line.... they have asked for help REPEATEDLY.... I think they have a courageous Governor, and level headed.
 
mrbunny said:
What a bunch of paranoid bullshit
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what the hell is paranoid about about knowing whats going on in the world? if you knew what your government was up to youd be paranoid too.

and red hairs, is the billionaire your speaking of El Chapo Guezman head of the sinaloa cartel? if it is he's helped launder 18-50 billion dollars. but hey if ya got any info leading to his arrest you get 5mil... and your head lopped off. believe me, it'll "spill" into the US. say la vie el paso, tucson, phoenix.

btw people of america, if you didnt know, the cartels have this interesting trend in phoenix... they get into ground floor units (houses, vacated homes, and even apartments), and use it as a drop house for human trafficking. the fun part is when they chip up the slab exposing the ground beneath the house and use it as a stealth grave site for anyone who didnt pay or pissed them off. then they they use bag mix concrete to patch it, finish it, and re carpet the place. you could have a mass grave under your livingroom floor and not even know it.

i have a reason to be paranoid bunny, i live in a fucking future war zone. on top of that, watch for more american citizens getting kidnaped and brought into mexico to be killed or ransomed off. i wish i could be ignorant but i cant really ignore a bullet hole or afford to loose my head for selling weed.
 
The war most likely won't spill over the border because we are the consumers. The biggest drug consumers in the world, even though they have been outlawed for almost 70 years.
 
If you feel that strongly about it, why aren't you a vigilante? I would be. I'd get them before they got me (without a fight).

Maybe you shouldn't give up your guns, either.
 
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