iam sorry if i came off cross towards you jay, that was not the intent. i was merely trying to reiterate that there was a specific place where you could get all the info you need, and felt abashed when you (seemingly) ignored it and continued the thread even though the info was at your fingertips.
my irritation was probably only due to the comment on what i thought was a fairly lighthearted joke that not only got the point across but also provided you with at least a little direction. i am a noob like the rest of them, but i take things lightly, and i listen to advise. i have made the same noob threads about questions i found later in threads that were readily available, and i dont judge you for it either. but i WAS hoping that you took my advise to heart about moving the the specific forum for the topic, where much more information is available via stickies and popular threads. sure i thought the question was silly, but i was in no way meaning to poke direct fun at you or make you feel badly. if that was the result, i apologize.
i do still recommend going to the other sub-forum(?) though =D