aeviaanah
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what ya go take a smoke break and forget about me?! i got to get this organic stuff goin manNeed a minute to put that one together. It's pending...SMOKE BREAK!
what ya go take a smoke break and forget about me?! i got to get this organic stuff goin manNeed a minute to put that one together. It's pending...SMOKE BREAK!
Oh yeah, did forget about this thread...dog sitting two pits with separation issues this weekend, and a little preoccupied running back and forth between houses. Man this is a lot of questions.i plan on transplanting a well established plant in veg. going from a 5" pot to a 3 gallon.
directions say to mix with potting mixes at 1tbsp per gal. ffof is pretty nutrient rich as it is right? i was also planning on mixing in a few others. how does this sound?
3 gallons of ffof
1 gallon earth worm castings
2 tablespoons of ao grow formula (under recommended dose)
geohumus (as directed)
humboldt nutrients myco maximum granular (as directed)
will this mix be too hot?
are there any must have items in this mix..such as dolomite lime?
roughly how many weeks will this get me through without adding nutrients via top dressings, teas, or liquid organic nutrients.
do top dressings, teas and liquid organic nutrients all do the same thing?
to feed later on, should i use age old grow formula as a top dresser or to make tea?
to feed later on, should i use earthworm castings as a top dresser or to make tea?
Right on man! I appreciate the great plan you devised. I will go out and get some molasses and dolomite today...can you think of any last minute additives?Oh yeah, did forget about this thread...dog sitting two pits with separation issues this weekend, and a little preoccupied running back and forth between houses. Man this is a lot of questions.
Okay. To start you can put your cuts into small pots with FFOF, granular myco, and the geowhatevers. FFOF is perfect for babies already, I've used it as a veg base forever. That with a dose of tea (optional but beneficail) will get you through early veg, thriving.
A mid-veg transplant into a "hotter" mix is good. And I would plan on a third transplant that is even hotter and set up for transition from late veg to early flower. This third transplant will be the last (for me). I make sure to plan on switching over to soluble from slow release gradually as the meals/guanos/castings are used up in the third transplant.
Your second mix should be Nitrogen heavy, for veg, and this is where the castings and age old grow slow release come in handy. Keep the geohumus and granular myco parts consistent throughout your transplants. Can't hurt I guess, but I've never used the geo. Maybe a third castings is too much, I'm not sure how light the Geohumus is. The overall mix may be too heavy without perlite, and eff perlite.
Your third (last) transplant should be just like the second, even a little stronger. Do not drop the age old grow slow release if you do not want to supplement Nitrogen (what I do for better flush). You can put a little slow release flower food in this third mix if you want, but I prefer to feed flowers with soluble plant extracts, that way I can cut them off and flush.
You are planning on feeding some bat guano, right? I would balance that with a quality seaweed product, earth and turf PK
A little lime can't hurt, I don't know what your water pH and nutrient mixture pH are.
You can use the worm castings as your tea base. Guano (you got dry guano right?) can be added to the mix to make tea in flowering, or if you need extra PK in veg because of advanced yield situations . And you can use the AO grow in a tea, if you feel the plants need it, or in my case, can take it. I find they use more N in early flower for organics. You are essentially making yourself the bountea kit from stuff you already have.
One last thing I can think of while super baked on this Vegan Organics is the AIR STONE DEBATE...
The theory, maybe fact, is that air stones make tiny bubbles that are actually bad for microbial growth. I have a cheap DIY fix that requires almost nothing. I clipped a clothes pin to the end of my air-pump hose, to make the shape of a ring. The hose has a dozen or so holes drilled into it, and a couple stone weights tied to it to hold it down. BOOM, nothing but a couple stones and twist ties.
edit: and when you make tea, think about sensitive microbes, and finding a warm stable dark place to brew it up.
You should have it covered. Surprised no one's chimed in yet.Right on man! I appreciate the great plan you devised. I will go out and get some molasses and dolomite today...can you think of any last minute additives?
hah thats a good one....You should have it covered. Surprised no one's chimed in yet.
Ancient Chinese proverb:
Put 5 growers in a room and ask them to tell you how to grow. You will get no less than 10 answers.
HAHAHA, this one guy locked my thread that was calling out the organic growers who smoke dirty 'tane, lol. at least i am safe here because it is just us lol...or is it? hahahahahah thats a good one....
Hey, I appreciate your perspective and humor. My posts don't intend to attack others methods, but they attacks come my way, and its more fun to retaliate than just defend myself all the time. Either way...welcome to the conversation! Anything to add for homie? I'm sure there is something crucial that I left out.Sure, you could make honey oil with cheap/shitty butane that leaves behind residues; and you could also make bubble hash with toilet water.
help please! or not. d'oh. where are the old school organic pros when you actually want to hear from them? how does the plan for homie's first organic round look?the age old grow formula i just bought is 100 percent organic....8-4-1. It is derived from meat+bone meal, volcanic rock dust, composted poultry manure, blood meal, bone meal, and humic acid.
I plan on transplanting a well established plant in veg. Going from a 5" pot to a 3 gallon.
Directions say to mix with potting mixes at 1tbsp per gal. Ffof is pretty nutrient rich as it is right? I was also planning on mixing in a few others. How does this sound?
3 gallons of ffof
1 gallon earth worm castings
2 tablespoons of ao grow formula (under recommended dose)
geohumus (as directed)
humboldt nutrients myco maximum granular (as directed)
will this mix be too hot?
Are there any must have items in this mix..such as dolomite lime?
Roughly how many weeks will this get me through without adding nutrients via top dressings, teas, or liquid organic nutrients.
Do top dressings, teas and liquid organic nutrients all do the same thing?
To feed later on, should i use age old grow formula as a top dresser or to make tea?
To feed later on, should i use earthworm castings as a top dresser or to make tea?
Make sure to not cause any serious deficiencies when you do the flush, and if deficiencies do occur it would be best to just switch over to organics so they continue to be healthy. Don't worry about a little chem in the system, no biggie unless you are some kind of organic nazi. You are making the right choice, and if the buds haven't grown you won't even notice the chem start to the nugs because the organics will be in the majority.aeviaanah said:i started the chosen plant with synthetics in ffof soil so i am currently giving plain water only, this way i can flush out any synthetic nutrients before the change to organic. i have a gallon sitting out with an airstone in it to evap chlorine, i was going to make my first tea. i was going to add the age old grow and the earthworm castings.
the directions on age old grow say 1 tbsp per gallon of SOIL. i was thinking 1/2tbsp per gallon of water would be ok for the first feed, along with the earthworm castings. this should start the soil web right? any idea of how much earthworm castings? i will brew on top of heat pad to maintain brew temp around 75. soundin good?
oh, posted here too, lol d'oh. Yeah, you know what's up. The lime will help keep your pH around 7. and the peat will help pull it to the acid side, which is good. You can run a pH test on your mix before you start if you have one of them test kits (mix soil/water, add drops, color=pH).I mixed the following, roughly...
3 parts peat moss
1.5 parts fox farm ocean forest
1 part perlite
1 part earth worm castings
10 tbsp of age old grow powder
4 oz geohumus
I wet this mix down with dechlorinated water with a bit of FF big bloom. This mix should be a bit hot for seedlings but this is for a well rooted late veg plant. I have dolomite lime coming in the mail. Ill add some before transplant.
You will probably need to up the amount of perlite, especially with the EWC.I mixed the following, roughly...
3 parts peat moss
1.5 parts fox farm ocean forest
1 part perlite
1 part earth worm castings
10 tbsp of age old grow powder
4 oz geohumus
I wet this mix down with dechlorinated water with a bit of FF big bloom. This mix should be a bit hot for seedlings but this is for a well rooted late veg plant. I have dolomite lime coming in the mail. Ill add some before transplant.