budlover13
King Tut
Reflectix, I'm going to check into it. Just slightly more than the panda and if it comes with better reflectivity, it's worth it.
My DIY Veg Tent design. *Critique?*
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Reflectix, I'm going to check into it. Just slightly more than the panda and if it comes with better reflectivity, it's worth it.
budlover13
King Tut
Well, a 30 minute internet pricing search just told me that my build will run $67.59 after tax after pricing everything @ Home Depot(except the panda) and the price I found for a tent from a VERY popular discount, but high tech gardening supply business. Comparable in size, although a little smaller than my design, it totals #135.88 after tax with no S&H and no rush delivery. So, I look and say I can build a superior tent for (67.59/135.88=0.497) half the cost. AND it is set up to my specific desires. I'll post the prices for everything tomorrow.
chrono
Active Member
fair enough man, its just alot of time invested for something that ultimately aint be as quick or easy to break down/setup, that being said, im interested to see what you can produce.
budlover13
King Tut
Thank you! I totally see where you're coming from, but it's my nature to seek perfection. Nobody will ever attain true perfection, but all are free to pursue it. Again, sometimes to a fault, I tend to over-think/over-engineer things. Part of it is my diagnosed OCD/ADD, part Dad coming through, and part Land Surveyor/Engineer. It can be a curse sometimes, but a blessing at others(usually in hindsight). If a bridge is to support 1,000,000 lbs, build it to handle 2,000,000. Then comes the cost. Probably at LEAST 1/2 the time, I believe my idea or plans to be superior, but they end up costing more. Sometimes 2X better, but also sometimes at 5X the cost. I was actually pleasantly surprised to find out how much I would save, especially when I factor in durability.
Time, well.... like I said I'm OCD/ADD which means that I generally have very little problem filling my time. I'm used to taking time due to my work. My crew and I are able to keep tolerances of +/- 3mm across a Federal job site of 160 acres. It takes a little math and a WHOLE lot of time and repetition/averages. When staking rough grade on a job site, most of the time my tolerances are +/- 75mm, I we can set 200+ points in an 8 hr day. With tolerances of +/-3mm, We can only set 80-100 construction points in a day depending on conditions. Most likely, I have too much time on my hands in this slow economy. I also look @ my time investment as a hobby since I can relate it to growing, my new favorite hobby.
I think I'm going to try to put together a true DIY thread on this for anal-retentive folks like me that includes detailed cost, instruction, legal, and logistical(lighting, ventilation, etc) info. It will by no means be definitive, but will at least be more accurate as possible info for our site. Obviously, I'll get flamed by some, but if I help just one person become a better grower/person, it's worth it. It'll take awhile to pull together since I'm on a limited budget, but will include pics, research, PLENTY of opinion I'm sure, and hopefully video too.
"You may say that I'm a dreamer...." A lot of people do when I tell them that my ultimate goal is to be able to legally provide enough medicine in my hometown that good quality meds will drop to $50/oz. I don't want to get rich, I believe in the non-profit aspect of the law. I just hate to see people have to make a decision between obtaining their medicine and paying the rent. I don't plan to sell medicine, but rather give away the basic info and knowledge to run a successful grow in a safe, legal, professional setting. MY grow can't make meds $50/oz, but OUR GROWS can.
Thank you RIU for your knowledge, availability, support, and friendship. Is there a way to +REP the community?
Dont know if youve seen this already, but I thought it was informative: https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/382386-pappabears-diy-poly-wood-cabin.html
budlover13
King Tut
I figure, once built, set-up or teardown should only take 30 minutes + the rewrap with Panda.
budlover13
King Tut
Thank you for the link! +REP
It looks like I've got more reading to do. As any craftsman, including Papabear would say, "Measure twice, cut once."
Viagro
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Nobody believes that a flat, flat-white surface is the best reflective surface, but it is. I learned this in photography school, long ago, and I've seen documentation in discussions like this, elsewhere. It's even better than the stuff inside of tents. It doesn't seem logical, but fortunes are made on perceptions that don't jibe with the facts. The problem is it can't be cleaned like a gloss or satin surface, and probably does have a better chance of harboring mold. However you go, you'll do fine, I reckon. Just wanted to add my 2 cents.
Also, I wonder if you could benefit by using cedar, in that it might ward-off mites? Probably not enough wood involved to matter. It occurs to me you could put everything together with screws and a portable drill to make it fully modular for when you wind-up in the doghouse, and you surely will...
He says as he waves at the Mrs...
budlover13
King Tut
Nobody believes that a flat, flat-white surface is the best reflective surface, but it is. I learned this in photography school, long ago, and I've seen documentation in discussions like this, elsewhere. It's even better than the stuff inside of tents. It doesn't seem logical, but fortunes are made on perceptions that don't jibe with the facts. However you go, you'll do fine, I reckon. Just wanted to add my 2 cents.
Also, I wonder if you could benefit by using cedar, in that it might ward-off mites? Probably not enough wood involved to matter. It occurs to me you could put everything together with screws and a portable drill to make it fully modular for when you wind-up in the doghouse, and you surely will...
I do believe that white will be my best reflective surface, just wondering about mold/mildew. I'm just unsure of how to achieve it with a non-off-gassing, sealed, surface.? I thought of cedar, but wow$$$$!!! I figure sealed pine should give me 3-5years+ carefree service, with minimal repair(sanding, bleaching, and re-sealing). There's actually going to be a good amount of wood involved. I wonder about cedar chips?
As for the complete modular aspect, I've considered it and my engineering mind(curses) says that bolting panels will be more durable over the course of several moves. I guess I could really go either way, but that anal retentive side of me says go with bolts. I figure when I outgrow it, I can either give it away or refinish and sell.
budlover13
King Tut
I wonder what kind of reflective qualities I could get out of laminated white paper?
budlover13
King Tut
You're a photographer Viagro. I like. I love B&W especially. Just something classy about it. Any published work or unpublished but on the net?
Viagro
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I think you could sacrifice a little and use a gloss or satin finish, and have a sealed and washable surface. I'd probably do that.
I like the idea of a hard-edged modular construction that could be broken down easily. It just makes sense.
I was just thinking cedar for the superstructure. Cedar isn't that expensive here...it plagues the landscape.
I like the idea of a hard-edged modular construction that could be broken down easily. It just makes sense.
I was just thinking cedar for the superstructure. Cedar isn't that expensive here...it plagues the landscape.
budlover13
King Tut
True. I think I remember reading somewhere that flat white is about 95% reflective whereas semi-gloss is around 85% with gloss at around 80%. So, I could build with drywall(for light weight) or painted plywood(for durability). Decisions, decisions! Water-based maybe?
Viagro
Well-Known Member
Laminated white paper? I'm not sure I understand how you'd use it? You could use thinner drywall to spend less, and have a rigid surface. If you're thinking of hanging paper over drywall, you will have a haven for mold, and bugs.
I went to professional photography school to learn the craft, but it's just another tool in the trickbag.
edit: Definitely waterbased.
I went to professional photography school to learn the craft, but it's just another tool in the trickbag.
edit: Definitely waterbased.
budlover13
King Tut
Just the standard lamination with plastic. Now that I think, probably IS a bad idea.
Viagro
Well-Known Member
I have a portable Makita 9.6v drill, and I use it to build everything. It's great...and there is a brand of screws out there that are excellent. I can't get them here, and I've forgotten the name, but they drive like silk and don't rust. I think the type I liked best were teflon coated or something. Your project would go together easily with that building approach.
The drill comes with two batteries, and a charger that does the job in <hr. Everybody should have one.
The drill comes with two batteries, and a charger that does the job in <hr. Everybody should have one.
GibbsIt89
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i found u viagro! haha sweeeet, not that i was even looking for you but nice to find a fellow friend on an interested thread.
"BUDLOVER!!!" whats up bro! i'm 21 and have OCD/ADD too man, bin smoking weed since grade 8 to help with it.. i like the way you think man it reminds me of the way i think/do things.. im subbed, happy buildin!
"BUDLOVER!!!" whats up bro! i'm 21 and have OCD/ADD too man, bin smoking weed since grade 8 to help with it.. i like the way you think man it reminds me of the way i think/do things.. im subbed, happy buildin!
budlover13
King Tut
Thank you Gibbs!(Any reference to NCIS? We love it!) I hope I can do right by you and my fellow RIU members. I will definitely do my best, but as you know, that OCC/ADD and occasional STML tends to lead to many edited posts!
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