inneed of some intelligent growers advice HAVE NO CLUE WHATS GOING ON WITH MY PLANTS

[younotonthislvl]

everything was going good i dont know what happen can someone please tell me whats wrong and how to fix the problem some people said it was ozone damage but i dont even know how to solve that problem if u need to know more information about anything just post and i will do the best i can to give more information pleasee someone help

 

[elfroggo]

Not sure, kinda looks like spidermites in some of the pics, but could easily be a nute problem too. Have you checked the bottom of the leaves for bugs to be sure? Here are a couple references on plant problems you can look at, might help you figure it out.
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/how-to-grow-weed-3.html
http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/plant_abuse.html
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/how-to-grow-weed-3.html

 

[younotonthislvl]

Not sure, kinda looks like spidermites in some of the pics, but could easily be a nute problem too. Have you checked the bottom of the leaves for bugs to be sure? Here are a couple references on plant problems you can look at, might help you figure it out.
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/how-to-grow-weed-3.html
http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/plant_abuse.html
http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/how-to-grow-weed-3.html

no i dont see any little spidermites so im pretty sure its not that i looked at the websites u gave me and i really cant pin point the problem i can tel u exactly what nuts im using and how much im useing im really so confused and scared im going to loose them all i have a afhgan that it 2 months old that i just took clones from to ssee if its male or female and i really dont wanna loose that one i had 2 but one just somthing happened that i couldnt save

 

[Serapis]

Do you have any ionizers or air cleaners in your home? That does appear to be ozone damage, usually caused from an improperly ventilated electrical or ozone generator. Any gas powered motor can cause that as can air ionizers, ozone generators, etc.

If you can definitely rule that out, then it may be a PH/Ca/Mg issue, but it sure doesn't look like one, due to the damage appearing in the margins and only near the stem.

Here is what i would try, rule out ozone, fresh air is a must.... if you can do that, i would go ahead and start treating for a cal-mag def as long as you can verify ph is good and no salt lock up in medium.

 

[younotonthislvl]

Do you have any ionizers or air cleaners in your home? That does appear to be ozone damage, usually caused from an improperly ventilated electrical or ozone generator. Any gas powered motor can cause that as can air ionizers, ozone generators, etc.

If you can definitely rule that out, then it may be a PH/Ca/Mg issue, but it sure doesn't look like one, due to the damage appearing in the margins and only near the stem.

Here is what i would try, rule out ozone, fresh air is a must.... if you can do that, i would go ahead and start treating for a cal-mag def as long as you can verify ph is good and no salt lock up in medium.

thats the thing i can 100% rule out ozone damage inless plants shouldnt be near any outlets for electricity i always keep my ph the best i can at 5.8 and i use cal mag 35ml in a 6 gallon reservoir and im not sure if i have salt lockup and with the fresh air i have all this in a shed so it might not be gettin enough fresh air plus its my veg room is in the growtent but i have a ac coming out of the shed so if i need ait from outside i can but its still cold were i live

 

[suspendedinair]

Looking at the last pic you have up with the stem being purple in my opinion i would say mg def. Mine did the same thing, used Epson salt to fix my problem

 

[Serapis]

35ml is actually 5ml heavy, but you're good.... damn.... it has to be ozone then, naturally occurring.... Can you check a weather service or your local news for any recent reports of ozone or air pollution alerts? How about foliage outside, do you see anything similar going on? the last thing I can think of is you need to air your house out immediately...

thats the thing i can 100% rule out ozone damage inless plants shouldnt be near any outlets for electricity i always keep my ph the best i can at 5.8 and i use cal mag 35ml in a 6 gallon reservoir

 

[Serapis]

I thought so too, but take a closer look at the damage on the leaf and observe how it appears to be centralized to stem and margins, not the edges, which is not normal for a Ca-Mg problem.... This is rather interesting, it might be strain dependent reaction, but i think it is environmental.

Looking at the last pic you have up with the stem being purple in my opinion i would say mg def. Mine did the same thing, used Epson salt to fix my problem

 

[younotonthislvl]

35ml is actually 5ml heavy, but you're good.... damn.... it has to be ozone then, naturally occurring.... Can you check a weather service or your local news for any recent reports of ozone or air pollution alerts? How about foliage outside, do you see anything similar going on? the last thing I can think of is you need to air your house out immediately...

well the strain on the 2 smaller plants are white widow and yes i just checked and there is no reports and outside looks like normal spring to me lol i guess i shouold just maybe turn on my air conditioner but put it on just the FAN settin

 

[fallinghigh]

well I read this and thought at first cal mag ...just like suspenededinair advice.....after further reading and re examining your pics I would say with 90% certainty that it is a bactirial infection of the roots. I think "soil secrets" brand inoculant is the best remidy for this . The one with the green yin yang sybol cheep and efective only need a cap or 2 of each in your res..

 

[ValleGrown]

That ain't a mag def At all.definitely better check underneath make sure the mediums environment is suitable. No brown spots or slime. No algae or growth anywhere. make sure your temps in your res are good. Just watch her for a couple days and let her do her thing give her only water and let her calm down. Something is pissin her off. I'm thinking environmentAl and cosmetic stresses... Most likely from fans blowin directly at her. Is it new growth? Or older fan leaves. (new growth being within the last week) anything older than a week is consider old growth to me. Something is killing your plant and it's trying to win. Don't let it. It's something bacterial or viral. Meaning she got an STD from scissors or a cut or something . Top to bottom check your plant. Watch her and watch for any changes from day to day.

 

[younotonthislvl]

That ain't a mag def At all.definitely better check underneath make sure the mediums environment is suitable. No brown spots or slime. No algae or growth anywhere. make sure your temps in your res are good. Just watch her for a couple days and let her do her thing give her only water and let her calm down. Something is pissin her off. I'm thinking environmentAl and cosmetic stresses... Most likely from fans blowin directly at her. Is it new growth? Or older fan leaves. (new growth being within the last week) anything older than a week is consider old growth to me. Something is killing your plant and it's trying to win. Don't let it. It's something bacterial or viral. Meaning she got an STD from scissors or a cut or something . Top to bottom check your plant. Watch her and watch for any changes from day to day.

well i had alot of algea on my rockwool when i put it in the hydroton so could that be whats going on ?
should i use SLEDGEHAMMER its a foxarms cleaner for a couple hours then just had good RO ph water? for a couple days and then start back with all my nuts?

 

[ValleGrown]

I've never used it but if it's like clearex then yea use it sparingly cuz you don't want to harm your plants. Use that and some RO water. For 2 watering cycles then go back to half strength then full strength

 

[ValleGrown]

I don't about a couple hours either. Algae could be your problem If there is alot of it

 

[younotonthislvl]

I don't about a couple hours either. Algae could be your problem If there is alot of it

well i just flushed my plants for 1 hour and i drained it out my Ro system is runnin at the moment it takes 2 hour to fill my reservoir so im just waitin on that then should i just put some 5.8 ph water with no nuts and let it water 3 times a day for a little while and i called my local hydroponic store and they said somthing about root cleaner what u think about that idea cuz the leaves are starting to get even worse like with red and purple on the leaves

 

[younotonthislvl]

do u think bio root or humblot root will work? and should i just run my ro water with no nuts ph 5.8 for a couple days?

 

[ValleGrown]

Do a h2o2 dip. clean your roots. And then do your RO water with quarter strength nutes and move on. And your ph needs to come up a few points. 6.2 would be good 5.8 is a little low for some nutes cuz they locked out

 

[younotonthislvl]

Do a h2o2 dip. clean your roots. And then do your RO water with quarter strength nutes and move on. And your ph needs to come up a few points. 6.2 would be good 5.8 is a little low for some nutes cuz they locked out

well the problem is gettin worse i will upload recent pics soon i already did flush the roots and i did but the nuts in with correct ph

 

[Serapis]

Um, actually, 5.8 is dead on for hydro... You just need to let it fluctuate a bit from time to time.

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Do a h2o2 dip. clean your roots. And then do your RO water with quarter strength nutes and move on. And your ph needs to come up a few points. 6.2 would be good 5.8 is a little low for some nutes cuz they locked out

 

[ValleGrown]

I know that but like you said fluctuation is a necessity. Some nutes do get locked out at the 5-6 PH range depending on the strains sensitivity it very well could be a strain that like it a little less acidic. Cuz the plant seems to be getting worse or so he says at least so if it's worse that means you still need to vary the ph a little more to get the plant the nutes it needs.


To OP:
what's going on with your roots?