Jack Harer
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Tim the tool man sez..."You NEED more power!!!!"
1000w vs. 600w hps
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DrFever
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what it comes down to is whats better 1 1000 watter or 1 600 watter and by far the 1 1000 watter blows it out of the water
and for above posts most big grow ops that i have seen remind you that what you think is big might not be i am talking 2000 + indoor plants they will run 1000 watter not fckin around with 600's
and its so true about penetration its not even funny i grow in the 10,000 watt + club and when you get 70 wet gram buds growing on the bottom of your plant your doin something right and as for lighting its so fckin bright that once you walk out of the room your blind
and to give you a idea what 1000 watters can do look at these indica pics day 42 etc
and for above posts most big grow ops that i have seen remind you that what you think is big might not be i am talking 2000 + indoor plants they will run 1000 watter not fckin around with 600's
and its so true about penetration its not even funny i grow in the 10,000 watt + club and when you get 70 wet gram buds growing on the bottom of your plant your doin something right and as for lighting its so fckin bright that once you walk out of the room your blind
and to give you a idea what 1000 watters can do look at these indica pics day 42 etc
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hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Nice post Drfever props to u, but I get that quality buds from 600s to! But eitherway great looking grow.
kmog33
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600=buds that are more dense, if light properly utilized, because 600s put off less heat enabling you to put them closer to your buds which means more usable light at the canopy. 1000= higher yield due to more overall light coverage even if kept at a further distance but the buds may or may not be the same quality. using twice as many 600s as 1000s of coarse is gonna produce higher yield and better buts because the light will be better distributed as you have more lights/reflectors and the produce more lumens per watt than 1000s. but ventilation setup/space make this idea more of a problem than it sounds like. ie: a 20' x 20' room with 4 1000s works space-wise and ventilation will be clean and effective. throwing 7 or even 8 600s, just as far as reflector/fan/filter/ventilation space goes, in the same room might be awesome on paper, but when you get that many reflectors in that space...youre gonna realize the problem with trying to sardine pack your lights and othe requipment in that space that 4 1ks wouldve been a much better choice. in my opinion 1000=yield 600=density but thats just from my experience.
NoGutsGrower
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you get rid of heat from a 1000w the same way you get rid of heat from a 600! I keep my 1000's 6 inches from the top of my plants! I forgot to move the lights when I went on vacation, they grew into the glass on the hood with out getting burnt! Running air cooled hoods and properly venting your grow, you can keep the 1000's just as close as the 600's. 1000's give denser buds and higher yield. Denser buds weigh more. You get better/denser buds as you move up in lighting.
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DrFever
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dont get me wrong i saw 600 watt grows that came out nice real nice ppl get scared of 1000 watters because of heat but what the post is saying is 1 1000 watt or 1 600 watt now ppl cmon lumen per Sq foot your telling me one 600 watt light will do better in a 6 x 6 area ???? then a 1000 watter
for instance like my next grow will be 4000 watts on four 8 foot motorized track hordilux super blue thats hps and mh in one bulb
2 1/2 feet from that motorized track i will be running two stationary 1000 watts inbetween tracks there goin to be MH bulbs
and so on so litterally 12,000 watts in a 316 Sq foot impact zone lights being 8 " above tops giving 1,560,000 lumens pretty much
for instance like my next grow will be 4000 watts on four 8 foot motorized track hordilux super blue thats hps and mh in one bulb
2 1/2 feet from that motorized track i will be running two stationary 1000 watts inbetween tracks there goin to be MH bulbs
and so on so litterally 12,000 watts in a 316 Sq foot impact zone lights being 8 " above tops giving 1,560,000 lumens pretty much
Jack Harer
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I run 3 1K lights over a 4' x 8' table full with 72 lolipopped girls on it, and can get over 8lb or better from that table. You aint gonna do that with 3 600's. Period. Maybe 6 600's will get it.
Ponicengineer
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The first step to deciding this is realizing that there is no "better overall" option here. There is only a better option to the situation you have as far as actual growing space is concerned. It is true that a 600w bulb does product more lumens per watt than any other HID wattage. This efficiency does in fact allow you to run 2 lights vs 1 1kw light for just around 200 watts more and maybe a tad less depending on the ballasts being used.
With that said, now the factor of space and even coverage does come into play. I have a 6x6' area lined with orca film and a 1kw hortilux hps in the middle with a reflector that provides a good pattern for moderate spread and penetration over the area. I did at first try 2 600w for the reason your mates had suggested but I ran into a problem. With my area size, I had a region in the middle where each of the lights spread intersected. The result was uneven growth; being wild in some and lacking in others. The 600w had spread the light very well but would not penetrate like the 1kw. After replacing with the 1kw, I got the right combination for my area by having a very even spread with better penetrating power.
Some insight from someone who went through something similar
I think JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE 600w would be well suited to equal 3x3 spaces in a rectangular formation or 4 in a 6x6 which has 4 3x3 areas. Just some insight.
-PE
With that said, now the factor of space and even coverage does come into play. I have a 6x6' area lined with orca film and a 1kw hortilux hps in the middle with a reflector that provides a good pattern for moderate spread and penetration over the area. I did at first try 2 600w for the reason your mates had suggested but I ran into a problem. With my area size, I had a region in the middle where each of the lights spread intersected. The result was uneven growth; being wild in some and lacking in others. The 600w had spread the light very well but would not penetrate like the 1kw. After replacing with the 1kw, I got the right combination for my area by having a very even spread with better penetrating power.
Some insight from someone who went through something similar
I think JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE 600w would be well suited to equal 3x3 spaces in a rectangular formation or 4 in a 6x6 which has 4 3x3 areas. Just some insight. -PE
Jack Harer
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The first step to deciding this is realizing that there is no "better overall" option here. There is only a better option to the situation you have as far as actual growing space is concerned. It is true that a 600w bulb does product more lumens per watt than any other HID wattage. This efficiency does in fact allow you to run 2 lights vs 1 1kw light for just around 200 watts more and maybe a tad less depending on the ballasts being used.
With that said, now the factor of space and even coverage does come into play. I have a 6x6' area lined with orca film and a 1kw hortilux hps in the middle with a reflector that provides a good pattern for moderate spread and penetration over the area. I did at first try 2 600w for the reason your mates had suggested but I ran into a problem. With my area size, I had a region in the middle where each of the lights spread intersected. The result was uneven growth; being wild in some and lacking in others. The 600w had spread the light very well but would not penetrate like the 1kw. After replacing with the 1kw, I got the right combination for my area by having a very even spread with better penetrating power.
Some insight from someone who went through something similar
-PE
That's about the best answer yet. I'm just prejudiced, 'cuz I just LOVES my 1K's, but there are some applications where 600s are the best answer. MY answer would be to enlarge my space rather than reduce the light, but I realize that not everyone has that luxury!!
DrFever
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i am like you jack there no supliment for wattage as for the above mentioning he gets his 600 lower i have my 1000 watters approx 12" from tops in a very controled room with smokin ventilation
people talk about better effiency with a 600 and i agree but no where the intense penetration that a 1000 watter can provide
my friend is doin a grow with 600 watters he is approx 2 weeks ahead of me n i am smokin his Ass bad for bud production
people talk about better effiency with a 600 and i agree but no where the intense penetration that a 1000 watter can provide
my friend is doin a grow with 600 watters he is approx 2 weeks ahead of me n i am smokin his Ass bad for bud production
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skunkd0c
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being in the uk its cold here m8, i have my 600 watt lights 6 inch away from my colas, with no air cooled hoods, not really needed
if i did choose to use air cooled hoods i guess i could get them closer, but that would just reduce the footprint
each to there own , i found 1000w lights cumbersome they are big ugly things the bulbs lol i am glad to see the back of them
if i did choose to use air cooled hoods i guess i could get them closer, but that would just reduce the footprint
each to there own , i found 1000w lights cumbersome they are big ugly things the bulbs lol i am glad to see the back of them
wheels619
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1000 awesome way better than a 600 by itself in my opinion. now 2 600s way better than 1 1000 but double the equipement. if u have the cash go for it. but my thousand works awesome for my 6x4 no problem and i didnt have to fork out the cash for the extra ballast hood and socket..
Jack Harer
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I'll never have another air cooled hood. The amount of light lost to the glass doesn't outweigh the few in you get in terms of getting closer to the plant. I have mine about 16 in or less from the tops. If you get TOO close, you lose footprint size. Increase circulation, and get a bigger room if need be.
