So the police just fucking took me in!!

cannabisguru

Well-Known Member
And in that case, the end of the lies you are spewing...

please for God's sake don't take this mans "legal" advice... and do a Google search, look at some law websites... and they'll tell you the same thing I and other posters here have told you.
lies? LOL.. yeah, I'm a lier now. K dude...

grow up already eh?

and while your at it, read this:


arhh her her her her... lame.

I can't believe some uneducated moron is sitting here arguing with someone that has a father that schooled him every fucking day on federal and state laws you moron.

It's a requirement for you to be read your rights prior to being arrested... period. end of story dude.

The police can't just go around arresting people, slapping cuffs on them and just throwing them in the back of the fucking police car man. It doesn't happen that way!! THEY HAVE TO READ YOU YOUR RIGHTS!!! PERIOD!

You want proof?? Let me prove you wrong then my friend.. because you apparently think you know it all. This article comes STRAIGHT from a U.S. State Law book.. which covers ALL U.S. States my friend. And heres the article, straight from the book!!

In the United States, anyone who is arrested has certain rights under the U.S. Constitution. These rights were outlined by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Miranda v. Arizona: " …the person in custody must, be clearly informed that he has the right to remain silent, and that anything he says will be used against him in court; he must be clearly informed that he has the right to consult with a lawyer and to have the lawyer with him during interrogation, and that, if he is indigent, a lawyer will be appointed to represent him." A law officer making an arrest must read a statement based on this rule, which is usually called "reading your rights" or "Miranda rights". If the police fail to advise you of your rights at the time of your arrest, any statements you made before or after the arrest would be and will be excluded if you were put on trial.

Booyah kah!!

I now rest my case.. no further arguments from me on this one. I just proved my case.. thank you.
 

timeismoney1

New Member
socata smoker, to be detained, operating procedure of taking in a 'criminal' requires their rights to be red at the time of arrest. Not three hours later in questioning, timeismoney clearly doesn't understand his rights, and thats why miranda rights are read to suspects. To make sure they understand they can't just not say a word and protect themselves from further legal prosecution. Did he question you at all on the ride back? if so, he is clearly violating YOUR rights.

Also, just so anyone knows. If an officer pulls you over "shooting radar" and doesn't have his running lights on, its thrown out. Had it happen on two occasions. You can't park in a parking lot with your lights off and claim to be shooting radar. A patrol vehicle must have its running lights on at all times while in service. If the cop is on the clock and in the car, the lights have to be on for them to pursue anyone.
What do you mean by running lights? At first wehn he had me step outa the care before the sobriety tests asked me if i was on anything or taking any medications. Asked me that like 10 times
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
socata smoker, to be detained, operating procedure of taking in a 'criminal' requires their rights to be red at the time of arrest. Not three hours later in questioning, timeismoney clearly doesn't understand his rights, and thats why miranda rights are read to suspects. To make sure they understand they can't just not say a word and protect themselves from further legal prosecution. Did he question you at all on the ride back? if so, he is clearly violating YOUR rights.

Also, just so anyone knows. If an officer pulls you over "shooting radar" and doesn't have his running lights on, its thrown out. Had it happen on two occasions. You can't park in a parking lot with your lights off and claim to be shooting radar. A patrol vehicle must have its running lights on at all times while in service. If the cop is on the clock and in the car, the lights have to be on for them to pursue anyone.

Listen buddy... stop lying, plenty of people have posted reputable links and quotes in here showing that if the cop does not wish to use what you say in court as evidence, then there is no need for the Miranda Rights to be read.


And furthermore, the "black out" issue with cops is completely a state's right issue... here in Louisiana, ALL cops are usually blacked out and the law protects their right to pull you over regardless of if they have lights on or not.




What do you mean by running lights? At first wehn he had me step outa the care before the sobriety tests asked me if i was on anything or taking any medications. Asked me that like 10 times

He means the parking lights, and chances are your state allows the use of blacked out operations for the police and the majority of states do.

And as for the things he asked you there (do you have anything on you and are you under any meds) that is lawful.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
lies? LOL.. yeah, I'm a lier now. K dude...

grow up already eh?

and while your at it, read this:


arhh her her her her... lame.

I can't believe some uneducated moron is sitting here arguing with someone that has a father that schooled him every fucking day on federal and state laws you moron.

It's a requirement for you to be read your rights prior to being arrested... period. end of story dude.

The police can't just go around arresting people, slapping cuffs on them and just throwing them in the back of the fucking police car man. It doesn't happen that way!! THEY HAVE TO READ YOU YOUR RIGHTS!!! PERIOD!

You want proof?? Let me prove you wrong then my friend.. because you apparently think you know it all. This article comes STRAIGHT from a U.S. State Law book.. which covers ALL U.S. States my friend. And heres the article, straight from the book!!

In the United States, anyone who is arrested has certain rights under the U.S. Constitution. These rights were outlined by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Miranda v. Arizona: " …the person in custody must, be clearly informed that he has the right to remain silent, and that anything he says will be used against him in court; he must be clearly informed that he has the right to consult with a lawyer and to have the lawyer with him during interrogation, and that, if he is indigent, a lawyer will be appointed to represent him." A law officer making an arrest must read a statement based on this rule, which is usually called "reading your rights" or "Miranda rights". If the police fail to advise you of your rights at the time of your arrest, any statements you made before or after the arrest would be and will be excluded if you were put on trial.

Booyah kah!!

I now rest my case.. no further arguments from me on this one. I just proved my case.. thank you.

within your OWN quote.




THIS is what's wrong with the world these days. people put their own feelings in front of FACTS and expect others to accept it.
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Booyah kah!!

I now rest my case.. no further arguments from me on this one. I just proved my case.. thank you.


I really feel bad for you buddy... I don't like proving people wrong and I wish more people were right... HOWEVER


In your own post:

If the police fail to advise you of your rights at the time of your arrest, any statements you made before or after the arrest would be and will be excluded if you were put on trial.
MEANING... they simply can't use anything you said in a court case...


WHICH IS... exactly what we've been saying.


HOWEVER... they can ask you anything they want about anyone they want, as long as they don't bring it up in court... IT IS LEGAL.





within your OWN quote.




THIS is what's wrong with the world these days. people put their own feelings in front of FACTS and expect others to accept it.


Goddamnit FDD, do you now see why you are on my LOVE LIST?! LOL... thanks!

Even though you cant read this... lol
 

THENUMBER1022

Well-Known Member
it does vary from state to state. I am not lying, I am using actual experience and not wiki pedia links, jackass..


Timeismoney, running lights are the lights on the car when normally driving. You can't NOT have headlights on, so most cars have automatic running lights but fords do not. Meaning they can be 100% black in the black night and shooting radar, which is borderline entrapment. I'm out of here, no one is apparently aloud to spread truth around this genius of the law, called socatasmoker.

If everyone took his advice, every time we got pulled over, we might as well pull out pants down and prepare for an ass fucking.
 

cannabisguru

Well-Known Member
socata smoker, to be detained, operating procedure of taking in a 'criminal' requires their rights to be red at the time of arrest. Not three hours later in questioning, timeismoney clearly doesn't understand his rights, and thats why miranda rights are read to suspects. To make sure they understand they can't just not say a word and protect themselves from further legal prosecution. Did he question you at all on the ride back? if so, he is clearly violating YOUR rights.


Ohhhhh!! BOOOOYAAAHHH!!! In ya face 'Mr. Know-it-all'

This is what I've been trying to explain to you the ENTIRE FREAKING TIME.

I can now, rest my case.

peace.


Also, just so anyone knows. If an officer pulls you over "shooting radar" and doesn't have his running lights on, its thrown out. Had it happen on two occasions. You can't park in a parking lot with your lights off and claim to be shooting radar. A patrol vehicle must have its running lights on at all times while in service. If the cop is on the clock and in the car, the lights have to be on for them to pursue anyone.


This is also correct.


Thank you whoever you are.. for coming in and backing me up on this. This is the CORRECT information.. not the shit you read on the internet everyone.

some people are just so gullible, that they believe EVERYTHING they read on the internet. LOL.. how sad.

peace.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
This is also correct.


Thank you whoever you are.. for coming in and backing me up on this. This is the CORRECT information.. not the shit you read on the internet everyone.

some people are just so gullible, that they believe EVERYTHING they read on the internet. LOL.. how sad.

peace.

i believe what YOU posted. ;)
 

cannabisguru

Well-Known Member
it does vary from state to state. I am not lying, I am using actual experience and not wiki pedia links, jackass..


Timeismoney, running lights are the lights on the car when normally driving. You can't NOT have headlights on, so most cars have automatic running lights but fords do not. Meaning they can be 100% black in the black night and shooting radar, which is borderline entrapment. I'm out of here, no one is apparently aloud to spread truth around this genius of the law, called socatasmoker.

If everyone took his advice, every time we got pulled over, we might as well pull out pants down and prepare for an ass fucking.
exactly!!!

thanks #1022!

that's actually the last 4 digits of my old telephone number.. heh.
 

puffenuff

Well-Known Member
I don't know how much of the advice in here I would seriously consider. If they offer you drug classes or community service WITH nothing on record, I would take that in a heartbeat rather than try to fight it and spend countless hours in court and thousands on lawyer fees.
 

Da Almighty Jew

Well-Known Member
I stand corrected.






ExpertLaw - Your Source for Legal Information











Miranda Rights

By Aaron Larson

Law Offices of Aaron Larson

March, 2000 <H2>Contents</H2>
Notice: Please note that if you have been charged with a criminal offense, you will likely benefit from consulting a criminal defense lawyer. You may find this article on "How To Hire A Criminal Defense Lawyer" to be helpful.
Your "Miranda Rights" are named after the U.S. Supreme Court case, Miranda v Arizona, 384 US 436 (1966).
<H2>When Will The Police Read Me My Miranda Rights? </H2>The police must advise suspects of their "Miranda Rights" - their right to remain silent, their right to an attorney, and the right to an appointed attorney if they are unable to afford counsel - prior to conducting a custodial interrogation. If a suspect is not in police custody (i.e., "under arrest"), the police do not have to warn him of his rights.
The police are very aware of when they have to read suspects their "Miranda Rights." The police will frequently question a suspect, specifically telling the suspect, "You are not under arrest, and are free to go. However, we would like you to answer some questions." After the suspect voluntarily answers questions, and sometimes if he refuses, he is arrested. The questioning, being voluntary and non-custodial, is usually admissible. After arrest, the police may have no interest in further questioning, and thus may not ever read the suspect his "Miranda Rights."
<H2>If The Police Don't Read Me My Rights, Can They Still Use My Statement?</H2>Sometimes, a suspect will make voluntary statements after he is arrested. The police do not have to warn suspects not to make voluntary statements, as long as they do not deliberately try to elicit those statements through statements or conduct. Sometimes, suspects will express their surprise at being caught by the police, with statements to the effect of, "You got me." At other times, suspects will try to justify their actions to the police after they are arrested, with statements such as, "I don't know why I did it," or, "The drugs weren't mine - I was carrying them for a friend." Those statements, if made spontaneously by a suspect, will almost always be admissible in court. Additionally, if a statement leads to the discovery of other evidence, even if the statement itself was taken in violation of the Miranda ruling the police may be able to use that evidence.
<H2>Can My Silence Be Used Against Me In Court?</H2>When a person chooses to remain silent after receiving his Miranda warnings, that silence cannot be used against him in court. However, if a person has not received his Miranda warnings, and remains silent, it is possible for that "pre-Miranda" silence to be used against him. For example, if a person is arrested for murder, or is told that he is a suspect, a typical innocent person will express disbelief and may even try to present an alibi. It would be unusual for a person to simply remain silent, after being informed that he is being wrongfully charged with murder - even people who know their right to remain silent will often express surprise. A prosecutor may subsequently argue that the "pre-Miranda" silence resulted from the fact that the defendant was not surprised that the police "figured it out."
<H2>How Do I Protect Myself From Having My "Pre-Miranda" Silence Used Against Me?</H2>If you are under investigation for a criminal offense, you can prevent "pre-Miranda" silence from becoming an issue by stating, "My attorney told me never to talk to the police without talking to him first. Do I have to answer your questions?" Once informed that you have the right to remain silent, no negative inference can be drawn from your exercise of that right. There is nothing wrong with making your attorney responsible for your choice to remain silent -- it looks a lot more suspicious if you simply refuse to answer questions than if you present the explanation that your attorney gave you standing advice not to answer questions.
<H2>If I Remain Silent Or Ask For A Lawyer, Won't The Police Think I Am Guilty?</H2>The police tend to draw a negative inference from the fact that suspects refuse to answer questions, or where suspects hire attorneys ("lawyer up") before they are charged with crimes. However, there are many cases where the only evidence against a defendant is his confession, or where an innocent person finds that the police have misinterpreted his statements. In one notable case, a police officer was a criminal suspect -- he made a taped statement, expressing his innocence. Subsequently, he was shocked to hear his tape recorded "confession" used against him in court. As it turned out, his statement was recorded on a used tape, which contained a confession from a different case. Part of the old recording, immediately after the end of the police officer's statement, was presented as the defendant's "confession." If that can happen to a police officer, obviously it can happen to you.
<H2>If I Choose To Remain Silent, Or Request An Attorney, But Later Decided To Answer Questions, Can They Use My Statement?</H2>If the police do try to question you after your arrest, they are supposed to cease interrogation if you exercise your right to remain silent or request an attorney. It should be noted that the request for an attorney is "more powerful" than a request to remain silent. Courts tend to view police claims that a suspect changed his mind about having an attorney with much more suspicion than claims that the suspect changed his mind about remaining silent.
The police use numerous techniques to get suspects to change their minds about remaining silent. One very simple technique is to use silence against the suspect -- the officer explains, "You don't have to make a statement, but I still have to write up this report, describing what everybody says that you did." The officer, in front of the suspect, then starts to type out his report, saying nothing to the suspect. It is common for the suspect to break the silence, and to choose to make a statement.

Copyright © 2000 - 2011 Aaron Larson. All rights reserved. No portion of this article may be reproduced without the express written permission of the copyright holder. If you believe you may lawfully use a quotation, excerpt or paraphrase of this article under the Fair Use exception to copyright law, except as otherwise authorized by the author of the article, you must cite this article as a source for your work and include a link back to the original article from any online materials that incorporate or are derived from the content of this article.



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cannabisguru

Well-Known Member
i believe what YOU posted. ;)
Well hello Fdd!! I know you do buddy... its just this SoCal person. He/she is quite annoying at times.. believing everything they read on the internet, then suddenly think they're experts. LOL... and he says he feels sorry for me? For what? Being right?? Should I say, thank you? Or..??
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
http://www.usconstitution.net/miranda.html


The Miranda Warning


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The Constitution reserves many rights for those suspected of crime. One of the fears of the Framers was that the government could act however it wished by simply saying an individual was a suspected criminal. Many of the rights in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, such as habeas corpus, the right to remain silent, and the right to an attorney, are designed to ensure that those accused of a crime are assured of those rights.
Police were able to take advantage of the fact that not everyone knows their rights by heart. In fact, it is likely that most citizens could name a few of their rights as accused criminals, but not all of them. The police's position was that if the accused, for example, spoke about a crime without knowing that they did not need to, that it was the person's fault for not invoking that right, even if they did not know, or did not remember, that they had that right.
This was the crux of the issue in Miranda v Arizona. In 1963, Ernesto Miranda was accused of kidnapping and raping an 18-year-old, mildly retarded woman. He was brought in for questioning, and confessed to the crime. He was not told that he did not have to speak or that he could have a lawyer present. At trial, Miranda's lawyer tried to get the confession thrown out, but the motion was denied. In 1966, the case came in front of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled that the statements made to the police could not be used as evidence, since Miranda had not been advised of his rights.
Since then, before any pertinent questioning of a suspect is done, the police have been required to recite the Miranda warning. The statement, reproduced below, exists in several forms, but all have the key elements: the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney. These are also often referred to as the "Miranda rights." When you have been read your rights, you are said to have been "Mirandized."
Note that one need not be Mirandized to be arrested. There is a difference between being arrested and being questioned. Also, basic questions, such as name, address, and Social Security number do not need to be covered by a Miranda warning. The police also need not Mirandize someone who is not a suspect in a crime.
As for Ernesto Miranda, his conviction was thrown out, though he did not become a free man. The police had other evidence that was independent of the confession, and when Miranda was tried a second time, he was convicted again. After release from prison, Miranda was killed in a barroom brawl in 1976.
The following is a minimal Miranda warning, as outlined in the Miranda v Arizona case.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to speak to an attorney, and to have an attorney present during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you at government expense.
The following is a much more verbose Miranda warning, designed to cover all bases that a detainee might encounter while in police custody. A detainee may be asked to sign a statement acknowledging the following.
You have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions. Do you understand?
Anything you do say may be used against you in a court of law. Do you understand?
You have the right to consult an attorney before speaking to the police and to have an attorney present during questioning now or in the future. Do you understand?
If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you before any questioning if you wish. Do you understand?
If you decide to answer questions now without an attorney present you will still have the right to stop answering at any time until you talk to an attorney. Do you understand?
Knowing and understanding your rights as I have explained them to you, are you willing to answer my questions without an attorney present?







do you understand?
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Well hello Fdd!! I know you do buddy... its just this SoCal person. He/she is quite annoying at times.. believing everything they read on the internet, then suddenly think they're experts. LOL... and he says he feels sorry for me? For what? Being right?? Should I say, thank you? Or..??


Dude, FDD has been proving you wrong this entire thread.

Are you on the "stuff" again?
 

cannabisguru

Well-Known Member
I love you man... but you're wrong.
Dude, everyone else is agreeing with me!!!

stop believing everything you read on the damn internet!!

I have a fucking LAW BOOK right in front of me.. which is where I got the article I posted.

You can love me all you want.. but your the one that is WRONG.. just deal with it already.. damn.

go smoke a bowl or something..

your obviously in denial about being wrong...

and with that, this is honest to God, my last post for this thread.

I have no time to deal with ignorance..

to everyone else that listened to me.. and knows the laws.. I say thank you.

God bless.

peace.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Well hello Fdd!! I know you do buddy... its just this SoCal person. He/she is quite annoying at times.. believing everything they read on the internet, then suddenly think they're experts. LOL... and he says he feels sorry for me? For what? Being right?? Should I say, thank you? Or..??

hahahhahahaha

lololol


bwahahhahaah


call your dad. :roll:
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Dude, everyone else is agreeing with me!!!

stop believing everything you read on the damn internet!!

I have a fucking LAW BOOK right in front of me.. which is where I got the article I posted.

You can love me all you want.. but your the one that is WRONG.. just deal with it already.. damn.

go smoke a bowl or something..

your obviously in denial about being wrong...

and with that, this is honest to God, my last post for this thread.

I have no time to deal with ignorance..

to everyone else that listened to me.. and knows the laws.. I say thank you.

God bless.

peace.


Forget my previous question... you are quite delusional.


See FDD's post in BIG FUCKING RED LETTERS.


LMAO.
 
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