What is "Real"?

Finshaggy

Well-Known Member
I want to point some things out...

You see the sky...
You see the stars...
You see the grass...
You see the people...
You see the animals...
You see the needs...
But...
You also see the cars...
The streets signs...
The restaurants...
The stores...

What is real?
Don't ask what is real. Ask, What will matter tomorrow?
The ground...
The Grass...
The Trees...
The Air...
Rocks...

These things exist, everything else "is there" and "can be "touched" or "Could be considered real"
But it's not...
"McDonalds" is not real, at some point in the future IT WILL NOT EXIST...
A building is a building, it doesn't matter what sign you hang on it. That doesn't make the idea that it stands for "True" or "In Existance". It is just "Visible" And "Existent in thought".
Humans have done beautiful, and amazing things. But our architecture is not limited to construction of buildings, and engineering wonders. Humans have created an elaborate mental wonder.
Our ancestors invented words. This is a psychotic idea. Animals do not speak, words do not exist.
Vibrations exist...
Muscle tissue, and therefore vocal cords, exist...
And some humans WILLED...WANTED bad enough, and did. One guy wanted REALLY bad to know, or to let someone know about something. He pointed at a rock violently trying to get his point across with his hands, and FINALLY said "Uh", then again "Uh...UH...UH!"
And FINALLY the other guy thought "Wait, that word is associated with that rock!" And said, "Uh?"
And the other guy said, "UH UH UH!" Happily, since the other guy got it.
And finally they were able to convey things to each other.
They probably started walking all over, pointing at things, one guy would go "Oh?" other guy "Oh." nodding head.
Then on to the next thing, "Eh?"..."Eh."..."Ti"..."Mm...Ta" "Mm?" "Mm!"
And language began to form...
So words are not "Real" they are an intricate attempt to get things out of our heads and INTO the real world. But they themselves are not real, and every single individual person has a different idea of what each and every word means. Every person has different experience, and emotional memory with each word than you do. We all understand the world in our own way, in the way we have experienced. You know what you have seen, do you understand? The fact is that you know no more, or no less than what you know...And that is no more, or no less, than ANYONE else...But it has come from different places, and is processed by a different mind, and is in different places at this particular moment, because of the different experiences in life, and how it makes you feel about different situations...


"Reality" can almost, if not safely be defined as things that can be effected by the forced of light/waves, gravity, friction, pressure, etc...
This is reality...Remember
Nothing is true,
EVERYTHING is permitted.

THIS is real life, ANYTHING can happen.
People say, "Why is life like a game?"
It's NOT, wake the fuck up.
This is the real world, ANYTHING can happen. There are NO rules.
Go play.
Don't die.
 
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This thread makes me wanna cut myself. Until I die. Then rise back from the dead, and people will be like "fake!"

But no...it will be real!
 
This thread makes me wanna cut myself. Until I die. Then rise back from the dead, and people will be like "fake!"

But no...it will be real!

Why would people think that you turned fake just because you died? If they think you are "fake", it is your personality.
ALL people are real, alive OR dead :D
 
I want to point some things out...

You see the sky...
You see the stars...
You see the grass...
You see the people...
You see the animals...
You see the needs...
But...
You also see the cars...
The streets signs...
The restaurants...
The stores...

What is real?
Don't ask what is real. Ask, What will matter tomorrow?
The ground...
The Grass...
The Trees...
The Air...
Rocks...

These things exist, everything else "is there" and "can be "touched" or "Could be considered real"
But it's not...
"McDonalds" is not real, at some point in the future IT WILL NOT EXIST...
A building is a building, it doesn't matter what sign you hang on it. That doesn't make the idea that it stands for "True" or "In Existance". It is just "Visible" And "Existent in thought".
Humans have done beautiful, and amazing things. But our architecture is not limited to construction of buildings, and engineering wonders. Humans have created an elaborate mental wonder.
Our ancestors invented words. This is a psychotic idea. Animals do not speak, words do not exist.
Vibrations exist...
Muscle tissue, and therefore vocal cords, exist...
And some humans WILLED...WANTED bad enough, and did. One guy wanted REALLY bad to know, or to let someone know about something. He pointed at a rock violently trying to get his point across with his hands, and FINALLY said "Uh", then again "Uh...UH...UH!"
And FINALLY the other guy thought "Wait, that word is associated with that rock!" And said, "Uh?"
And the other guy said, "UH UH UH!" Happily, since the other guy got it.
And finally they were able to convey things to each other.
They probably started walking all over, pointing at things, one guy would go "Oh?" other guy "Oh." nodding head.
Then on to the next thing, "Eh?"..."Eh."..."Ti"..."Mm...Ta" "Mm?" "Mm!"
And language began to form...
So words are not "Real" they are an intricate attempt to get things out of our heads and INTO the real world. But they themselves are not real, and every single individual person has a different idea of what each and every word means. Every person has different experience, and emotional memory with each word than you do. We all understand the world in our own way, in the way we have experienced. You know what you have seen, do you understand? The fact is that you know no more, or no less than what you know...And that is no more, or no less, than ANYONE else...But it has come from different places, and is processed by a different mind, and is in different places at this particular moment, because of the different experiences in life, and how it makes you feel about different situations...


"Reality" can almost, if not safely be defined as things that can be effected by the forced of light/waves, gravity, friction, pressure, etc...
This is reality...Remember
Nothing is true,
EVERYTHING is permitted.

THIS is real life, ANYTHING can happen.
People say, "Why is life like a game?"
It's NOT, wake the fuck up.
This is the real world, ANYTHING can happen. There are NO rules.
Go play.
Don't die.


The abstract is real as well. Non-physical things are just as real as physical things.

Words are real. Thoughts are real. Feelings are real. Numbers are real.


Reality is in no way, shape, or form, dependent on what will exist in the future. Real things are anything that has happened, or is happening. You could also argue that the future is real as well, in the sense that real things will indeed happen in the future. If you'd like to deny that real things will happen in the future, wait 10 seconds and tell me if you still exist.
 
The abstract is real as well. Non-physical things are just as real as physical things.

Words are real. Thoughts are real. Feelings are real. Numbers are real.


Reality is in no way, shape, or form, dependent on what will exist in the future. Real things are anything that has happened, or is happening. You could argue that the future is real as well, in the sense that real things will indeed happen in the future. If you'd like to deny that real things will happen in the future, wait 10 seconds and tell me if you still exist.

Feelings "Are Real" chemical reactions.
But all that other stuff (Thoughts, Words) are not real. They are only "Real" to the human mind, therefore they are not a "Real" thing. Though they may seem, and be as usable to us, as real things are. But they themselves are not true reality.

I never said "It was dependent on what exists in the future", I just said that that (or questions like it) could be a better question to ask, for a similar, good answer :D
 
Why would people think that you turned fake just because you died? If they think you are "fake", it is your personality.
ALL people are real, alive OR dead :D

You missed the boat buddy. It was a reference more to Internet culture and how everything is "fake" and "pics or it didn't happen" etc. get it?
 
You missed the boat buddy. It was a reference more to Internet culture and how everything is "fake" and "pics or it didn't happen" etc. get it?
Yeah, now I do.
I've just never really been real big on getting on the internet until now, except like facebook sometimes.
 
Feelings "Are Real" chemical reactions.
But all that other stuff (Thoughts, Words) are not real. They are only "Real" to the human mind, therefore they are not a "Real" thing. Though they may seem, and be as usable to us, as real things are. But they themselves are not true reality.

I never said "It was dependent on what exists in the future", I just said that that (or questions like it) could be a better question to ask, for a similar, good answer :D


Thoughts are neurons firing and electro-chemical reactions; they are real. Anything that can manifest itself in the physical world is real. That includes language, and pretty much everything else you listed.

If it can become involved within the causal chain of events that has been happening since the known existence of space/time, it's real.
 
Thoughts are neurons firing and electro-chemical reactions; they are real. Anything that can manifest itself in the physical world is real. That includes language, and pretty much everything else you listed.

If it can become involved within the causal chain of events that has been happening since the known existence of space/time, it's real.
Except your wrong.
Vibrations are real
Vocal cords are real
Ear drums are real

But sentence structure, words, and what they mean, are still NOT REAL
 
Except your wrong.
Vibrations are real
Vocal cords are real
Ear drums are real

But sentence structure, words, and what they mean, are still NOT REAL

Then how are you reading what I'm writing and knowing what I mean?

Just because you can't understand that abstract things are real, doesn't make them less real. You can say they're not physical, and I'd agree - but it's pretty obvious that because they can effect the causal chain, that they're real.
 
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