trayvan martin

Canna Sylvan

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Today I was with my wife in the car. She wanted to shop at K-mart. Before she could get out, this homeless guy with almost all his teeth gone tried to open the door begging for money. We didn't open the door and shook our heads no and got the hell out of there. If we were CCW, should we have blown they guy away? It would have been a waste of a good bullet, a big mess on our car and would've wasted hours of our life explaining it to cops . Plus my wife would've been late to work. Lost money.
 

UncleBuck

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NoDrama

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depends.

what we have here is a case of zimmerman actively pursuing martin. tell me how that is compatible with a self defense argument under the stand your ground statute.

here is the statute: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html

pay attention to 776.041, princessdrama.
Very first thing : [SIZE=-1]Use of force in defense of person.

If Trayvon turned around and started attacking Zimmerman and it was Zimmerman calling for help, then the story is quite different isn't it?
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bundee1

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Yup racism exists in no dramas world, except its us wretched minorities demanding equal treatment imposing our awful laws and equality upon him. Im sorry you cant shoot minorities freely anymore nodrama oh wait you can in ... wait for it wait for it yup Florida.

its too bad that real race dialogue has been clouded or ignored for so long on both sides that people think racism doesnt exist the way it used. In fact its just more insidious and is now explained away by people like no drama. Thats what makes this form of racism more dangerous. People like nodrama cnt identify it anymore and the rest of us are left questioning our sanity.
 

londonfog

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NoDrama let me get you back on something you may know. Meant to ask you this the other day...Better gun Glock 23 or the 27
 

UncleBuck

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Very first thing : [SIZE=-1]Use of force in defense of person.

If Trayvon turned around and started attacking Zimmerman and it was Zimmerman calling for help, then the story is quite different isn't it?
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776.041 addresses that scenario.
 

bundee1

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Shhh if no drama found out he was black he would kill himself but in his case it would still be considered a hate crime not a suicide.
 

UncleBuck

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The thing about justice is its based on facts and evidence not emotions.Innocent until proven guilty remember.
fact: zimmerman pursued martin, provoking the situation, thus losing his self defense argument.

fact: zimmerman did not meet any of the exceptions to 776.041, as he does not have "great bodily harm" and there is no evidence that he ever did. the location of the shooting also means he made no attempts at retreating (if you buy the load of shit that someone half his size was beating him up).
 

NoDrama

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NoDrama let me get you back on something you may know. Meant to ask you this the other day...Better gun Glock 23 or the 27
Depends on your hand size, I realize they now come with replaceable grips that help that some, but the 27 is a subcompact so its a bit smaller. I would suggest the 27 for a woman.

23 has more capacity, isn't much bigger and will take the magazines from it's bigger cousins if you want to plink or target shoot.

27 has more deep concealment options, but more perceptable recoil.

Shooting remington 165 grain golden sabres has about 94% first shot stop capability, which is really damned good. ammo of choice for self defense outside of the home, frangible ammo for home defense or better yet a scattergun.
 

NoDrama

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fact: zimmerman pursued martin, provoking the situation, thus losing his self defense argument.

fact: zimmerman did not meet any of the exceptions to 776.041, as he does not have "great bodily harm" and there is no evidence that he ever did. the location of the shooting also means he made no attempts at retreating (if you buy the load of shit that someone half his size was beating him up).
FINALLY!! someone has actually brought the most damning evidence to light!! Now we can get down to brass tacks!
 

RoninAmok

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Very first thing : [SIZE=-1]Use of force in defense of person.

If Trayvon turned around and started attacking Zimmerman and it was Zimmerman calling for help, then the story is quite different isn't it?
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That only leaves you with the issue that Zimmerman ***pursued*** , pursue me and make me feel like your a threat you're quite likely to get your ass kicked , what you ****don't seem to get is that Zimmerman was the one who began the confrontation*** at the point of being pursued the kid would have been well **WITHIN** the law to have responded to such aggressive action with a physical response.

Translation: the cracker asshole ran up on someone and bit off more than he could chew and then pussed out and shot the guy over a hassle HE started.

Now AGAIN , if it was a CCW holder with any degree of training whatsoever and Zimmerman ran up on them with a drawn weapon he'd most likely be the one DEAD.........balls out truth here and now , if he'd run up on me with a drawn weapon I'd have triple-tapped him quicker than a blink , you take that how you want but it's not braggadacio or anything else , it's a matter of fact result of years of training and situational drill.

Bottom line , and coming from a " gun nut " idiots like Zimmerman you neither OWN a firearm of any sort OR have any sort of access to one , and syphilitc swine excrecense of his sort will ultimately be what gets firearms eventually completely controlled in this country.
 

NoDrama

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The thing about justice is its based on facts and evidence not emotions.Innocent until proven guilty remember.
Exactly!! I hear mostly opinions, assumptions, unfounded accusations when it comes to these things. Most of it colored by race.
 
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