trayvan martin

[Red1966]

The world now knows the evidence, the guy is going to walk. Terrible loss of life I am not sayin anything else. I have kids, I am a single fater I cant imagine the loss of one of my children I would be devistated but the evidence is the evidence. As to the fater saying it was not his son, and by the way the kid lived with his father, I would know I am telling you I would know their voice in a heartbeat. What is not part of the evidnece is the phone records from the girlfriend that claims she was on the phone with him. Dont think for a minute that the defense does not have those records. If they proved she was telling the truth it would be in the states evidence. It is not. The whole thing is a shame the whole thing sucks big time but I never beleived abc when they said it was a racial killing. It was a flat out avoidable incident that cost a child his life. UGH the entire thing makes me flat out sick. I live in a big city and kids, adults, women, men, animals are killed every day. Sometimes 3-4 times a day. Four kids were killed in their car just the other night. Sad, makes me sick to my stomach. Bottom line ABC news doctored the video to hide the bandage on the nose, ABC lied to the enitre nation and upset everyone and got everyone picking sides. This case just reaks of lies. The media is to blame, the incident should have been handled by the police and you and I should not be even talking about it. Thousands of our children dies in Iraq and AFG each day. They are dying right now but we dont give a shit, it is all just screwed up.

Agreed. Have to have ten characters.

 

[Red1966]

I know the difference, however all Spanish speaking folks are Hispanic, thus Spanish people are Hispanic. The only major Hispanic people in this part of the world are Spaniards...from Spain...hence my reference to Spanish people. So hold up, according to you; Martin is a burglar, a thief and he attacked Zimmerman (with no "actual" evidence to prove it) ...yet because we said Martin was innocent we're the ones making assumptions? Put the bong down buddy, you're out of your element.

I never claimed he was any of those things, but did supply records that indicate he may have been in possesion of stolen goods. Never made any comment about an attack. I'm just pointing out you guys are judging Zimmerman based on obviously(now anyway) false info published by the media and your own prejudices. You're trying to make out Martin to be a choirboy when the records indicate he wasn't. And you pretend to know what Zimmerman was thinking, clearly not possible unless you're a mind reader. I like my bong, thank you, I'm going to keep it.. Out of my element? Thank you for the complement. Didn't know the forum was only for those who think exactly like you. Closed mind.

 

[ginjawarrior]

I never claimed he was any of those things, but did supply records that indicate he may have been in possesion of stolen goods. Never made any comment about an attack. I'm just pointing out you guys are judging Zimmerman based on obviously(now anyway) false info published by the media and your own prejudices. You're trying to make out Martin to be a choirboy when the records indicate he wasn't. And you pretend to know what Zimmerman was thinking, clearly not possible unless you're a mind reader. I like my bong, thank you, I'm going to keep it.. Out of my element? Thank you for the complement. Didn't know the forum was only for those who think exactly like you. Closed mind.

erm got a link for the "stolen goods"? as anything i can drag up relates to school what 5 months prior the jewelry hasnt been confirmed stolen trayvon was never arrested let alone charged.

saying trayvon was a kid and innocent at the time zimmerman decided to follow is entirely consistent all the facts i dont see how you think us stating that is prejudice

 

[Red1966]

erm got a link for the "stolen goods"? as anything i can drag up relates to school what 5 months prior the jewelry hasnt been confirmed stolen trayvon was never arrested let alone charged. saying trayvon was a kid and innocent at the time zimmerman decided to follow is entirely consistent all the facts i dont see how you think us stating that is prejudice

Here's a link: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html Martin was 6'2". If you saw the recent pictures of him, you wouldn't call him a kid, believe me. If you're saying he's innocent until proven guilty, why do you not afford Zimmerman the same? The wounds to Zimmerman's head and face are ignored by you. The statements by witnesses who were there are ignored, while you give credence to his girlfriend, mother, father and their attorney, and then only with part of the fathers statements. None of them were there and they have no knowledge at all of what happened. You say "all the facts" but you're pickling and choosing what "facts" you'll consider. It appears you reached a conclusion that Zimmerman was a racist and Martin was a choirboy when the media was falsifying their reporting, and now ignore anything that does not agree with that judgement. The info you based your judgement on was false media hype, but you won't let go of it. You have prejudged Zimmerman (and Martin). Prejudge=prejudice Literal translation I see physical evidence of an assault on Zimmerman, I have to give that more credence than some of the witnesses, who, you will have to agree, sound vague, at best. Martin towered over Zimmerman, how was he to know his age. You (not you personally) pass off Martins known "incidents" as nothing, then one pops up and claims Zimmerman assaulted women and cops. Yeah? When? No response. You have two standards, if that isn't discrimination, what is?

 

[Red1966]

Here's what I'd like to see: 1:map of the area showing store, Zimmermans truck, Martin's fathers girlfriend's house/condo/whatever,paths of Zimmerman and Martin, locations of any witnesses, gun, shell casing(s) 2: photo of Martins clothing and wounds, his body at the scene, location of the skittles, tea, phone and any other items 3: transcripts of Zimmermans and witnesses statements. I prefer evidence I can see, not drivel from agenda driven media.

 

[Harrekin]

Here's what I'd like to see: 1:map of the area showing store, Zimmermans truck, Martin's fathers girlfriend's house/condo/whatever,paths of Zimmerman and Martin, locations of any witnesses, gun, shell casing(s) 2: photo of Martins clothing and wounds, his body at the scene, location of the skittles, tea, phone and any other items 3: transcripts of Zimmermans and witnesses statements. I prefer evidence I can see, not drivel from agenda driven media.

You can't afford Zimmerman "innocence" cos he killed someone retard, regardless of whether it's technically legal or not, he shot an unarmed 17 year old kid when he could've just went to the store himself.

 

[Red1966]

You can't afford Zimmerman "innocence" cos he killed someone retard, regardless of whether it's technically legal or not, he shot an unarmed 17 year old kid when he could've just went to the store himself.

I think I found a new sig line.

 

[Harrekin]

I think I found a new sig line.

Oh ok, so if the US Govt passes a law that's legalises all murder, does that means people who avail of this new legal protection are "innocent" or are murderers?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

You can't afford Zimmerman "innocence" cos he killed someone retard, regardless of whether it's technically legal or not, he shot an unarmed 17 year old kid when he could've just went to the store himself.

This is what you're saying?

Zimmerman shot a retarded 17 year old. It was technically legal, or maybe not. The 17 yo was unarmed and forced to go to the store by Zimmerman. The 17 yo refused, and Zimmerman shot him because of it.

This sheds a whole new light on the incident.

 

[UncleBuck]

saying lame as shit like "I said maybe".. weak azz jokers..be a man and say what you mean and mean what you say. If I say "Doc111 maybe a piece of shit" I'm I not implying that a piece of shit is Doc111..(merely use as an example ).

maybe doc111 diddles kiddies. we have no way of knowing that he doesn't.

 

[Harrekin]

This is what you're saying?

Zimmerman shot a retarded 17 year old. It was technically legal, or maybe not. The 17 yo was unarmed and forced to go to the store by Zimmerman. The 17 yo refused, and Zimmerman shot him because of it.

This sheds a whole new light on the incident.

Is your reading comprehension off or did you get too much spunk in your eyes last night or something?

Its correctly punctuated and everything, try using the commas, genius.

 

[UncleBuck]

He's starting to sound not so much an "innocent child" anymore, is he?

walking home with skittles and iced tea when a psycho carrying a gun stalks him?

sounds like an innocent child to me.

 

[UncleBuck]

Martin was behaving like he was casing the area, and, surprise, it turns out he probably is theif.

good enough for a death sentence for me!

you are so fucking transparent it hurts. like i said, the zimmerman defense only makes sense if you treat martin with the presumption of guilt as you are doing.

too bad martin was innocently walking home that night committing no crime. established fact, dickface.

 

[Harrekin]

walking home with skittles and iced tea when a psycho carrying a gun stalks him?

sounds like an innocent child to me.

Red1966 also asserted earlier that Zimmerman should be provided the same presumption of innocence that Trayvon was.
Cos there's no evidence Zimmerman shot Trayvon or anything...

 

[UncleBuck]

...you all are prejudiced.

says the dipshit trying to make martin out to be a thief.

 

[UncleBuck]

I just find it disturbing that people can claim to be unbiased when they are obviously so. I guess it's possible to be bigot and not even know it.

yep, just look in the mirror. you're the most biased motherfucker on this thread.

 

[UncleBuck]

...Claiming Martin was an "innocent kid" implies Zimmerman's defense is invalid, making him guilty.

claiming martin was an innocent kid that night, which he was, is stating a fact.

and it makes your pussy sooooooo sore.

martin was an innocent kid not committing any crimes when a man with a gun stopped what he was doing, profiled him, chased him multiple times, confronted him, and shot him.

all facts.

 

[Carne Seca]

I knew how this thread was going to end up from the get-go. I really am disappointed that I was right.

 

[UncleBuck]

What's happened to Bucky? Did he go to the park and get arrested again?

played some golf, planted watermelon, mowed the lawn, took my lady on a date, and fucked her brains out.

back to trolling asshats like you now.

 

[UncleBuck]

a 6'2" 17 YO teenager B. probable burglar casing area

lol.

more like innocent kid walking home with skittles and inced tea when a man with a gun decided he couldn't let another one of these assholes get away so he tells the cops to call him for his location instead of meeting them somewhere.

facts.