no do not use it for scrog. it will not be a good choice unless you plan on scrogging(scrog vegging) for 2 months... scrog grows are better with stretchy plants with excellent lateral branching.such as the 818 deadhead chem 4 og and some of our newer things we are coming out with...
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no do not use it for scrog. it will not be a good choice unless you plan on scrogging(scrog vegging) for 2 months... scrog grows are better with stretchy plants with excellent lateral branching.such as the 818 deadhead chem 4 og and some of our newer things we are coming out with...
right off the bat Pre98 bubba kush its high in CBD 2 years in a row won denvers cannabis cups highest CBD at over 12% CBD...
2nd choice would be Corleone kush as its half og so super strong hit high in thc and the pre98 bubba mix so you get an even CBD to thc
AzCannaMan
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Hey Swerve I have a question for you, I have the clone only Tahoe OG from PO.
I'd like to scrog them but have a perpetual garden and am starting the first batch of Tahoe. I was thinking one of using one of those green nylon trellis nets. I could probably figure out some way of rigging up one of those in the bloom room. Maybe put it like 2' up from the media level and move in 1' tall Tahoe plants. If they triple in height when flipped that would put the trellis net about 1' down from the tops theoretically and 1' up from where they would start stretching. I'm not expecting to fill the screen, just hopefully add enough support for the entire grow and scrog them a little to get a better yield from more efficient light/space usage.
Do you think that would help/be worth rigging up? The bamboo stakes are a real bitch to put in as needed so i'd like to do something in advance this time since I already know they will be too top heavy to support themselves.
Any tips you can give me for supporting them would be great. I'm in 3 Gal dirt bags with Coco media if that makes a difference. Thanks!
I'd like to scrog them but have a perpetual garden and am starting the first batch of Tahoe. I was thinking one of using one of those green nylon trellis nets. I could probably figure out some way of rigging up one of those in the bloom room. Maybe put it like 2' up from the media level and move in 1' tall Tahoe plants. If they triple in height when flipped that would put the trellis net about 1' down from the tops theoretically and 1' up from where they would start stretching. I'm not expecting to fill the screen, just hopefully add enough support for the entire grow and scrog them a little to get a better yield from more efficient light/space usage.
Do you think that would help/be worth rigging up? The bamboo stakes are a real bitch to put in as needed so i'd like to do something in advance this time since I already know they will be too top heavy to support themselves.
Any tips you can give me for supporting them would be great. I'm in 3 Gal dirt bags with Coco media if that makes a difference. Thanks!
stealthweed
Active Member
SO the Pre 98 bubba bx2 are pre-98 bubba clone only x reversed tahoe og pollen?
squarepush3r
Well-Known Member
hey Swerve! few questions
1) How is Ape? Used to get cuts from him at PNC in San Diego before he got hated on
2) Are your 98 Bubba BX2 seeds 12% CBD?
3) pie or cake?
peace bro1
1) How is Ape? Used to get cuts from him at PNC in San Diego before he got hated on
2) Are your 98 Bubba BX2 seeds 12% CBD?
3) pie or cake?
peace bro1
wyteberrywidow
Global
The pre 98 bubba FEMs are s1 of the clone no Tahoe in it.
stealthweed
Active Member
well you must by really dumb...you can't just simply put any clone into seed it has to be pollinated with something...pure comedy you are fo sure
wyteberrywidow
Global
What are you talking about?
SketchyGrower
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What is selfing?
Contributed by Vic High:
As the title implies, the main drawback to selfing cannabis plants is that you loose the male portion of your population, making future crosses difficult. Some think that by selfing a plant, all the offspring will turn out just like mom. That is only true if mom is true breeding for all the traits you are interested in. Otherwise, her offspring will show two phenotypes for every trait that she is not true breeding.
There are two basic models for selfing a plant such as cannabis the first one being where the plant is homozygous for the trait in question. Let's assume again that pineapple flavour is controlled by the recessive gene pp. If we self the plant we fill get the following S1 cross.
S1 cross = pp x pp = pp + pp + pp + pp or 100% pineapple flavoured female offspring. But no matching males
The other likely possibility is that special individual heterozygous dominant for the pineapple flavour. In this case P will indicate for pineapple flavour and the S1 cross will be:
S1 cross = Pp x Pp = PP + Pp + Pp + pp, our familiar 1:2:1 mendelian ratio.
In this second example only 75% of the offspring will have pineapple flavour and the frequency of the P gene will only be 50%, a far cry from 100% or true breeding. From here on, this isn't much different from a half sib cross involving regular inbreeding or backcrossing. It will take a few generations to achieve something close to true breeding, but as with backcrossing, as long as we use the P1 mom in the crosses (selfing in this case), we will never achieve a true breeding population.
Contributed by Vic High:
As the title implies, the main drawback to selfing cannabis plants is that you loose the male portion of your population, making future crosses difficult. Some think that by selfing a plant, all the offspring will turn out just like mom. That is only true if mom is true breeding for all the traits you are interested in. Otherwise, her offspring will show two phenotypes for every trait that she is not true breeding.
There are two basic models for selfing a plant such as cannabis the first one being where the plant is homozygous for the trait in question. Let's assume again that pineapple flavour is controlled by the recessive gene pp. If we self the plant we fill get the following S1 cross.
S1 cross = pp x pp = pp + pp + pp + pp or 100% pineapple flavoured female offspring. But no matching males
The other likely possibility is that special individual heterozygous dominant for the pineapple flavour. In this case P will indicate for pineapple flavour and the S1 cross will be:
S1 cross = Pp x Pp = PP + Pp + Pp + pp, our familiar 1:2:1 mendelian ratio.
In this second example only 75% of the offspring will have pineapple flavour and the frequency of the P gene will only be 50%, a far cry from 100% or true breeding. From here on, this isn't much different from a half sib cross involving regular inbreeding or backcrossing. It will take a few generations to achieve something close to true breeding, but as with backcrossing, as long as we use the P1 mom in the crosses (selfing in this case), we will never achieve a true breeding population.
You might want to do some research before you start calling people dumb. Just check and see what S1 means and all your problems will be solved, well not really, but atleast you will see you said something really dumb.
stealthweed
Active Member
let me do some search then I'll come back^^
SketchyGrower
Well-Known Member
.......................................^
(slaps forehead and moves on)
(slaps forehead and moves on)
stealthweed
Active Member
well I am kinda high was thinking about the regs...they aren't 100%pre98 are they?
stealthweed
Active Member
I was asking bout and thinking bout regs thats why I was so confused when wyteberrywidow said they are only bubba
wyteberrywidow
Global
It's cool the regs are worked to bx2 meaning a cross was made using a pre 98 clone and I think a afghan male, the most bubba male from seeds hit the clone again and so on.
next time read thru before calling someone names
That it's a backcross requires there are bubba genetics in the pollen.. did you think the tahoe was a bubba cross or what?
I wish I could be as nice as Wyteberry but damn when you call someone dumb you better make sure YOU are not the one acting like it.
stealthweed
Active Member
To be honest I am quite a bit pissed IRL due to lack of money-->no weed :/
But I sitll wonder what its crossed with haven't heard that swerve uses afgan crosses alot and it can't be SFV as in that case it would just be Corleone Kush
But I sitll wonder what its crossed with haven't heard that swerve uses afgan crosses alot and it can't be SFV as in that case it would just be Corleone Kush
im not sure of the source so i cannot really comment on the clone from them i can say i do def get clones from them and all seem to be pretty dam legit or really close.. so PO gets a super maddd 2 Thumbs up High 5 Respect!!!!
id say expect the size you flip at to be 3 times that sometimes youll get lucky if you hit them heavy with p & k early they will not stretch as much but figure at min double the hieght so do what we do when growing sensi we double trelis.. first about a foot and a half above the plant or a foot depending then a foot above that or so... just depends on your recipe though.. i wrote al this and realized i should ask do you move your plants you they stay where they are when they are flowering? as everything i suggested would be pointless if you move your plants. as the best route there is the tomato cages for support....
No the Bx2 is below did the orginal affy#1 from HGF pollen to the pre98 bubba clone the making the first f1 then i found a bubba leaning male and hit the mom again.. creating the first bx1. then i went through those seeds until i found a good bubba leaning pheno again and went back to the mom a second time making the bx2 seeds...
im not to sure about ape as of late i heard he got rolled again in norcal from the feds so i dunno.. i havent been by his bros hydro store to find out ....
our pre98 bubba s1's are where you will find the high CBD.
i love me soem good lemon pie man im not gonna lie but some seriously bomb as strawberry shortcake or chocolate cake is bomb as well so both... how about you?
It's cool the regs are worked to bx2 meaning a cross was made using a pre 98 clone and I think a afghan male, the most bubba male from seeds hit the clone again and so on.
next time read thru before calling someone names
yup thats the way i feel sometimes research is keene before snide remarks but hey sometimes we ahve to go through humility in order to gain respect and understanding...2 thumbs up on being awesome and respectful here when most would be dousches
stealthweed
Active Member
ah k thanks for the headsup..dont get why people say u dont talk to customers....any idea if you will supply tude soon with some Purple Chem?
