MMJ patients going to jail at faster rate

Mr Neutron

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Obama Administration Throwing Medical Marijuana Patients Into Federal Prison at Unprecedented Rate

This month will see a number of patients sentenced, sent to prison despite compliance with state medical marijuana laws

Washington, DC -- Fallout from the Obama Administration's aggressive federal enforcement in medical marijuana states has reached a fever pitch this month with three people being sentenced, two others due to surrender to federal authorities to serve out sentences of up to five years in prison, and one federal trial in Montana currently scheduled for January 14th. Two of the three people being sentenced in the coming month -- Montana cultivator Chris Williams and Los Angeles-area dispensary operator Aaron Sandusky -- face five and ten years to life, respectively.

"The number of sick patients being locked up by the Obama Administration is unprecedented and deplorable," said Kris Hermes, spokesperson for Americans for Safe Access, the country's leading medical marijuana advocacy organization. "Aggressive enforcement is an unacceptable means of addressing medical marijuana as a public health issue," continued Hermes. "The Obama Administration is lying to the American people when it says it's not targeting individual patients and these cases are clear evidence of that." Montana patient cultivator Richard Flor died in August while serving out a 5-year prison sentence.
Five cultivators claiming to be in compliance with Michigan's medical marijuana law were sentenced in October. Two of the cultivators -- Jaycob Montague and Jeremy Duval -- are already serving their prison terms of 18 months and 5 years, respectively, and two others -- John Marcinkewciz and Shelley Waldron -- are scheduled to surrender to federal authorities on January 8th and 10th, respectively. Waldron will be imprisoned for 18 months and Marcinkewciz for 5 years. The fifth cultivator, Jerry Duval (Jeremy's father), was sentenced to 10 years, but has not yet been given a surrender date.

More than a dozen people were indicted after federal agents conducted raids on state compliant medical marijuana businesses throughout Montana in March 2011. Only one, Chris Williams, went to trial and, like all other medical marijuana defendants who are tried in federal court, was denied a defense and swiftly convicted. While facing more than 80 years of mandatory minimum sentencing, Williams accepted a rare post-conviction plea deal that reduced his charges and possible sentence to 5 years to life in exchange for his promise not to appeal his conviction. Williams, who is scheduled to be sentenced on February 1st, worked at Montana Cannabis with Chris Lindsey, another indicted cultivator. Lindsey, who testified against Williams at his trial, is expected to be sentenced today. Medical marijuana cultivator Jason Washington has one of the last unresolved federal cases in Montana. Washington is currently scheduled to go to trial on January 14th.

Aaron Sandusky operated G3 Holistic in Upland, California when he was federally indicted in June. Though Sandusky was arrested with several others, he was the only one who took his case to trial. In October, Sandusky was denied a defense in federal court and convicted at trial. He is scheduled to be sentenced on January 7th to a minimum of 10 years to life.

Far surpassing his predecessor George W. Bush, President Obama has conducted more than 200 SWAT-style raids on state-compliant medical marijuana businesses and has indicted more than 80 people since he took office. "How many medical marijuana patients is President Obama going to imprison before he considers other, more humane options?" asked Hermes. "The president must answer for why he's going against his earlier pledges by spending Justice Department funds in this way, especially at a time of fiscal crisis."

http://americansforsafeaccess.org/obama-administration-throwing-medical-marijuana-patients-into-federal-prison-at-unprecedented-rate

4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!
 

UncleBuck

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yet for some reason, no one yet has been able to show me anyone who was actually state compliant go to jail.

i have noticed a shitload of new dispensaries opening up though.
 

echelon1k1

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yet for some reason, no one yet has been able to show me anyone who was actually state compliant go to jail.

i have noticed a shitload of new dispensaries opening up though.
While I agree with neutron, I must point out the DOJ & AG dept. have a shitload of better things to do than squander time and money on MJ, except for the crap from mexico - piss that off. I do recall though the DOJ/AG whitewash with the HSBC investigation that only ended up netting a couple of billion in fines for the FED, no indictments

Even in pot-friendly states, selling is risky business - its even from NBC
 

UncleBuck

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While I agree with neutron, I must point out the DOJ & AG dept. have a shitload of better things to do than squander time and money on MJ, except for the crap from mexico - piss that off. I do recall though the DOJ/AG whitewash with the HSBC investigation that only ended up netting a couple of billion in fines for the FED, no indictments

Even in pot-friendly states, selling is risky business - its even from NBC
i agree with neutron too. with the incredibly fast growth rate of dispensaries since the holder memo, the number of busts have also ticked up.

yet not a single example of a completely state compliant bust has been presented to me.

deprave took a stab and showed me a felon in michigan growing 146 plants. i asked patients in the michigan sub forum and deprave got laughed out of town.

canna sylvan already alluded to the guy who was growing 1000+ plants in cali, no one ever showed me that growing 1000 plants is legal in cali.

hell, the state of oregon does not even allow dispensaries, and i can take my pick.

if the argument is that cannabis has taken a hit under obama, i am just going to have to reply with "LOL!".
 

Canna Sylvan

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Why not just decriminalize marijuana? Or do you and the government have a stake in it?

If government didn 't give a fuck about weed, it'd be like growing tea leaves.

Regulation and tax lead to corruption. You can get 35 years for not paying tens of thousands each year for a distilling license.
 

fdd2blk

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i agree with neutron too. with the incredibly fast growth rate of dispensaries since the holder memo, the number of busts have also ticked up.

yet not a single example of a completely state compliant bust has been presented to me.

deprave took a stab and showed me a felon in michigan growing 146 plants. i asked patients in the michigan sub forum and deprave got laughed out of town.

canna sylvan already alluded to the guy who was growing 1000+ plants in cali, no one ever showed me that growing 1000 plants is legal in cali.

hell, the state of oregon does not even allow dispensaries, and i can take my pick.

if the argument is that cannabis has taken a hit under obama, i am just going to have to reply with "LOL!".

it's nice to know you approve of the imprisonment of marijuana growers. they did have it coming after all.

is it hard to LOL with a mouth full of balls? :?
 

UncleBuck

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it's nice to know you approve of the imprisonment of marijuana growers. they did have it coming after all.

is it hard to LOL with a mouth full of balls? :?
i don't approve of it, i'm simply stating that there aren't any cases that i've seen of state compliant growers getting put away.
 

UncleBuck

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Why not just decriminalize marijuana? Or do you and the government have a stake in it?

If government didn****'t give a fuck about weed, it'd be like growing tea leaves.

Regulation and tax lead to corruption. You can get 35 years for not paying tens of thousands each year for a distilling license.
decriminalization is what cheesus wants. you riding cheesus's coat tails?
 

UncleBuck

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therefore those who are "put away" deserve it. we get it. ;)
oh, c'mon now!

no one deserves to be put away for a mutually beneficial transaction between two consenting adults.

i'm only here to point out that "SWAT style raids on state compliant growers" line is exaggeration. someone growing 1000 plants in cali is pushing the envelope and taking a huge risk, not state compliant. a felon in michigan growing 146 plants is not state compliant.

my issue is with the dishonest presentation of the argument. but you probably know this and you're just jerking my chain.

i hate you :cuss:
 

Canna Sylvan

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decriminalization is what cheesus wants. you riding cheesus's coat tails?
No. Cheesy wants it so granny, with a broken hip, who can't grow goes to jail.

I want it no different than growing tea leaves. You can grow a hundred thousand tea leaf plants and either: sell them or give them away. You only pay taxes on gross margin.
 

NoGutsGrower

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i agree with neutron too. with the incredibly fast growth rate of dispensaries since the holder memo, the number of busts have also ticked up.

yet not a single example of a completely state compliant bust has been presented to me.

deprave took a stab and showed me a felon in michigan growing 146 plants. i asked patients in the michigan sub forum and deprave got laughed out of town.

canna sylvan already alluded to the guy who was growing 1000+ plants in cali, no one ever showed me that growing 1000 plants is legal in cali.

hell, the state of oregon does not even allow dispensaries, and i can take my pick.

if the argument is that cannabis has taken a hit under obama, i am just going to have to reply with "LOL!".
Just giving you your one.... not saying obama has been bad to pot!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57530335/oakland-backs-pot-dispensary-in-fight-with-feds/
The city of Oakland filed a federal lawsuit in San Francisco that seeks to prevent the U.S. Department of Justice from using its property seizure powers to get Harborside Health Center evicted.

http://blog.sfgate.com/bottomline/2012/07/11/u-s-attorney-why-im-busting-harborside-health-center/
U.S. Attorney: Why I’m busting Harborside Health Center

Totally state compliant, fighting feds, backed by the city.
 

UncleBuck

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No. Cheesy wants it so granny, with a broken hip, who can't grow goes to jail.

I want it no different than growing tea leaves. You can grow a hundred thousand tea leaf plants and either: sell them or give them away. You only pay taxes on gross margin.
doesn't granny have to be regulated and taxed to sell a hundred thousand tea leafs?

cheesus only wants her to be able to grow, not sell tea leaves.

Just giving you your one.... not saying obama has been bad to pot!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57530335/oakland-backs-pot-dispensary-in-fight-with-feds/
The city of Oakland filed a federal lawsuit in San Francisco that seeks to prevent the U.S. Department of Justice from using its property seizure powers to get Harborside Health Center evicted.

http://blog.sfgate.com/bottomline/2012/07/11/u-s-attorney-why-im-busting-harborside-health-center/
U.S. Attorney: Why I’m busting Harborside Health Center

Totally state compliant, fighting feds, backed by the city.
lol, harborside.

good try though.
 

ChesusRice

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Why not just decriminalize marijuana? Or do you and the government have a stake in it?

If government didn 't give a fuck about weed, it'd be like growing tea leaves.

Regulation and tax lead to corruption. You can get 35 years for not paying tens of thousands each year for a distilling license.
So do you agree with me the simple solution is
Legal to grow and possess
illegal to sell?
 

Murfy

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deprave didn't get laughed out of town-

you're argument is only hypothetical. if you and i were present in the same reality, and you chose to draw the chickenshit card(you always do), and i choose the violent lumberjack attack, you could never win.

once again asshat, (i wish i could call you a non hetero derogatory bigot slang), i bought my whole family guns for christmas. then we shot them.

a bunch! haha you faggit.
 

Murfy

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always a fuckin-

excuse from the rat.

if there was ONE fuckin lumberjack left in your state, you'da been shut up by now. obviosly the whole place is an abortion.
 
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