USA - Probably the most ****ed up country on earth

i find it really f'd up that people raise hell over a trial verdict but dont
raise hell over the constitutional violations of peoples rights.

Again, i ask..... Those who defend the 2nd a to the death, where are you in defending
the rest of the document?

Sheeple.

hear hear!
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I find it really f'd up that people raise hell over a trial verdict but dont
raise hell over the constitutional violations of peoples rights.

Again, I ask..... Those who defend the 2nd A to the death, where are you in defending
the rest of the document?

Sheeple.
Canadian, with no 2nd A to defend.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
Which part of the rest of the document do you have in mind (as being neglected or actively subverted by 2nd Amendment interest champions)? cn
First and Fourth amendments.

This really bugs me to see such passion for the 2nd A yet nothing
for one of the worst violations of the constitution, international laws,
and the privacy of the global citizen.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
Why would global citizens be in the United States Constitution?
Of course global citizens are not subject to the US constitution, I gave examples of why
there should be outrage over the violations considering how passionate people are about
the 2nd A for example.

I then gave an example of how large scale the issue is and how it affects everyone, not just
Americans. The scale of the issue should also infuriate people, but it doesn't seem to.
 
Why would global citizens be in the United States Constitution?

Good question, shit rhetoric.

Of course global citizens are not subject to the US constitution, I gave examples of why
there should be outrage over the violations considering how passionate people are about
the 2nd A for example.

I then gave an example of how large scale the issue is and how it affects everyone, not just
Americans. The scale of the issue should also infuriate people, but it doesn't seem to.

Yea, it does, and that shit is spreading.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
First and Fourth amendments.

This really bugs me to see such passion for the 2nd A yet nothing
for one of the worst violations of the constitution, international laws,
and the privacy of the global citizen.
We only pretend we are at peace for the sake of the childern. I was raised to think of war as these little deals, now that WW2 is over.

But, now I know, WW1 isn't over and the Hundred Years War is not over and the Crusades are not over. All parties have to agree. They don't.

There is no global citizen. There is a fairly wide spread but certainly not global mammal. A certain, clever monkey. Shiny with no hair, more or less.

Citizen is of a tribe? No. Citizen in Totalitaria? No. Citizen of the King? No.

A Citizen is a very important distinction. And don't you forget that, Citizen of the Commonwealth (not Comrade in the gulag) :)
 

kpmarine

Well-Known Member
If you are talking about pre-natal death rates I would agree. Abortion. I would have to see numbers regarding infant death rates. I imagine the US is up there in the rankings for murdering unborn children.
Mostly it's killing something that looks like a tadpole that couldn't survive outside of the woman's body.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
We only pretend we are at peace for the sake of the childern. I was raised to think of war as these little deals, now that WW2 is over.

But, now I know, WW1 isn't over and the Hundred Years War is not over and the Crusades are not over. All parties have to agree. They don't.

There is no global citizen. There is a fairly wide spread but certainly not global mammal. A certain, clever monkey. Shiny with no hair, more or less.

Citizen is of a tribe? No. Citizen in Totalitaria? No. Citizen of the King? No.

A Citizen is a very important distinction. And don't you forget that, Citizen of the Commonwealth (not Comrade in the gulag) :)

Dance around some more.
You say allot of nothing while trying to distinguish what a person's title may be.

Yet you say nothing, again about how your constitutional rights are being violated.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Dance around some more.
You say allot of nothing while trying to distinguish what a person's title may be.

Yet you say nothing, again about how your constitutional rights are being violated.
I just do not think they are. And I should know. I have the skin...the bleedy stuff, in the game.

When no one is happy and yet there is no real strife, God Bless the USA.

I'm not violated at all. I have a little something called the 9th A. This simply means in my Castle, I say what my Rights are.

And as long as none of that gets out into the, sensibilities of the many, no one can say. In short I have the Right (and Risk) to Ignore all of it. :)

Now that will very hard to understand if you were not born and raised in the Brier Patch, my snowshoe cousin. No fault yours.

So, why do you care, if I don't? Never mind. I don't care. There is no title called Citizen of the World. So, no rights attached.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
I just do not think they are. And I should know. I have the skin...the bleedy stuff, in the game.

When no one is happy and yet there is no real strife, God Bless the USA.

I'm not violated at all. I have a little something called the 9th A. This simply means in my Castle, I say what my Rights are.
And as long as none of that gets out into the, sensibilities of the many, no one can say. In short I have the Right to Ignore
all of it. :)

Now that will very hard to understand if you were not born and raised in the Brier Patch, my snowshoe cousin. No fault yours.

So, why do you care, if I don't? Never mind. I don't care. There is no title called Citizen of the World. So, no rights attached.

Well, I care because I see the passion for guns but not for privacy.

If you don't understand what the term citizens of the world is, you don't understand
the shift in mentality in today's world. We are people who stand up against guberments
who seek to violate basic human rights. You can thank the UN and all countries for
those rights.

Which in turn help make us united as one, a global citizen.

We live in a new world Doer, we are one as people who don't see nationality as we did
before, you can thank global connectivity for that.

I see your passion for some things, and that is great, I have seen your passion or may it be compassion
for people in countries outside of your own, so I see the global citizen in you but I also see your
attitude towards anyone who is not American so I know you are nowhere close to keeping up.

You are not understanding what the world stage is and the rights of the global citizens, you know people, everywhere. As an apparent
world traveler I would hope you would have a better understanding than to say "no rights attached".

BTW, while you're in your castle, and lets say for arguments sake you violate someone else, according to you,
you have that right because you gave it to yourself. Well Im willing to bet it wouldn't be long before you started
to realize that you are not the king of your castle after all.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
There are no rights attached. Can you travel without a passport? Can you get a world citizen pass?

I know all about what you think. Been there, done that, knocked down, got up, etc. And it is true you will reap what you sow.

I know it seems to be a big wide world to you. And you will assume you can love and help them all. But actually (and not fussing with you,) we all live in Small Worlds with what looks like mathematically, with only about 6 degrees of separation from the other Small Worlds of friends and family, etc.

This is the fact of Jihjad. They don't see this wide varied world. They see sinners and saved.

So, while you think this wonderful world will unfold as us old farts die off, think again. Jihad is the 21th Century.

Islam is desperate as tech rolls them under. I wish, like Titty, we had more secular and less Christians.

But, that isn't stopping Jihad there in the forefathers home, and it isn't stopping it in North America either. And everywhere else this Citizen of the World business is an abomination unto Allah.

Just look to your Small World. It too is under attack by Jihad, I bet.
My niece just quit her first teaching job at an Islam Charter School. The stories are chilling. The Administrator had no compuntion against threating her and her family...which means me.

Boy are her eyes open at 21 years. The horror is already among us. It is not a religion at all. It is what Christianity was for the first 1500 years. Totally a War Cult.

So, don't get too dreamy. :)
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
A private library? How quaint. But, the artful dodge of the point. We have govt precisely because we need much more access to information than that. Who gets to decide which books are out? We used to get together and talk about it.

And this still happens all over the USA, if the town is still small enough. At the end of the talking is what? A show of hands.

You act like voting is nothing, but it is everything.

All we do in the USA is subject to vote. In my marriage we vote. I get 1/2 a vote and she gets 1 and 1/2 vote. :)

So, longer hits and less media......take both and we will vote on how you do in the morning.

The difference is in your marriage you agreed to be together. Also if you decide to, you can end the relationship and go your separate ways. You consented to the partnership.

A system based on a political vote that encompasses "everybody" has a major flaw. It overlooks the fact that it is coercive. None other than you can give your consent. A majority of people can't give your consent. Voting pretends this fact doesn't exist.

Your example of a small town is irrelevant. A small group or a large group, it doesn't matter, none other than you can provide your consent. When people tell you that your consent doesn't matter....they are using the same tactics as a rapist.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
There are no rights attached. Can you travel without a passport? Can you get a world citizen pass?

I know all about what you think. Been there, done that, knocked down, got up, etc. And it is true you will reap what you sow.

I know it seems to be a big wide world to you. And you will assume you can love and help them all. But actually (and not fussing with you,) we all live in Small Worlds with what looks like mathematically, with only about 6 degrees of separation from the other Small Worlds of friends and family, etc.

This is the fact of Jihjad. They don't see this wide varied world. They see sinners and saved.

So, while you think this wonderful world will unfold as us old farts die off, think again. Jihad is the 21th Century.

Islam is desperate as tech rolls them under. I wish, like Titty, we had more secular and less Christians.

But, that isn't stopping Jihad there in the forefathers home, and it isn't stopping it in North America either. And everywhere else this Citizen of the World business is an abomination unto Allah.

Just look to your Small World. It too is under attack by Jihad, I bet.
My niece just quit her first teaching job at an Islam Charter School. The stories are chilling. The Administrator had no compuntion against threating her and her family...which means me.

Boy are her eyes open at 21 years. The horror is already among us. It is not a religion at all. It is what Christianity was for the first 1500 years. Totally a War Cult.

So, don't get too dreamy. :)


I used to see the world as a big place, I don't anymore, I see it as a small, highly
connected network of people.

The Islam thing doesn't scare me, there are nut jobs, wacko's and fundamentalists
every where. As you outlined some Cristian's were also that way. Some, but not all and that
would be my message here. Some people may be that way but not all are.

I try not to fall into fear mongering, I would rather not be pressured or led into living
in fear and allowing myself to be controlled by said fears.
 

kpmarine

Well-Known Member
How long could a 3 day old baby survive outside a womans body?
If it's a trick question: Indefinitely, the baby has already survived 3 days.

If it's a serious question: It's a cluster of cells. My guess would be not for any length of time.
 
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