Apparently drones from the USA killed almost 1 person each day - JUST THIS WEEK.

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NLXSK1

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Unlike the terrorists, the USA doesn't intentionaly target innocents, and that is an enormous difference. The drone strikes should be more precise to avoid killing innocent people, but I certainly have no mercy for the members of terrorist organizations that those attacks are directed against. Like the Boston bombers, they have no problem in killing innocent men, women and children who have done absolutely nothing to deserve to be murdured. These people would destroy our country and way of life if they were able to. Since they have no respect for the lives of Americans, I have no mercy for any of them, but our goverment has to do a better job of avoiding the killing of innocent people when the drone strikes are launched, and if they are unable to do so, the only reasonable alternative is to stop and use other means to eliminate the terrorists.
You seem to be assuming that we know all the details on everyone we are killing.

If they were arrested and interrogated the innocent ones could go free. Obama wont pour water on the face of a terrorist but he will blow up someone who he thinks might be without due process....

In that regard, America is the terrorist.
 

Starwalker

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Innocent terrorists, I didn't know there was such a thing. Apparently, I have a lot more confidence in President Obama's knowledge of the terrorists that are being targeted than you do. The people that are being targeted are members of terrorist organizations who have already commited murderous acts against others. You sound alot like Hilowazupkush. Are you a friend of his?
 

Starwalker

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What's the matter, dude. cat got your tongue, nothing more to say? I don't blame you, it's really difficult defending the rights of terrorist murderers, isn't it.
 

UncleBuck

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You seem to be assuming that we know all the details on everyone we are killing.

If they were arrested and interrogated the innocent ones could go free. Obama wont pour water on the face of a terrorist but he will blow up someone who he thinks might be without due process....

In that regard, America is the terrorist.

you joined in may 2008, so that leaves an 7-8 month window of time for you to have commented on drone use under bush.

if i go back and look, what do you suppose the chances are that i actually find you criticizing him for the same?

and further, why were you so gung ho about a candidate who would have continued or stepped up the drone program?
 

NLXSK1

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What's the matter, dude. cat got your tongue, nothing more to say? I don't blame you, it's really difficult defending the rights of terrorist murderers, isn't it.
Sorry, I have a real life outside the forums. Must have sucked sitting around clicking refresh until your mouse broke...
 

NLXSK1

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you joined in may 2008, so that leaves an 7-8 month window of time for you to have commented on drone use under bush.

if i go back and look, what do you suppose the chances are that i actually find you criticizing him for the same?

and further, why were you so gung ho about a candidate who would have continued or stepped up the drone program?
And I am totally sure you were for the drone program under president Bush...

Hypocrite...
 

NLXSK1

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fuck yes i am. drones are smart warfare that spare american lives.
When Bush was in office I was against going into Iraq. Once we did I said support the troops.

I was against going into Afganistan. I am against drone warfare on people who we really dont know shit about. Got a business rival you want eliminated? Just tell the Obama administration he works for Al-Qaida... BOOM, competition eliminated.

The administration ADMITS to up to 25% collateral damage which means it could be 40% or more.

How many American lives would we have saved just taking care of our own shit instead of being in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan and all the other conflict the Nobel Peace Prize winner has gotten us tangled in??
 

UncleBuck

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...I was against going into Iraq....I was against going into Afganistan.
i find that especially difficult to believe since when you're not starting your totally super awesome businesses because obama!, you're war profiteering on government cheese to make fancy decorative badges for the menfolk. or something like that. i remember you telling us that you sewed badges for a while.

How many American lives would we have saved just taking care of our own shit instead of being in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan and all the other conflict the Nobel Peace Prize winner has gotten us tangled in??
obama got us tangled up in iraq? how so, by protesting the war up until the day of the invasion?

that's just like being the aggressor by running away, or assaulting someone when you're scared for your life. impossible by definition.
 

Fenian Brotherhood

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Drones Are Also Very Expensive. So when you say, send the troops home and throw Drones out there. You are also saying, Tax me more and make it harder for me to find a job.
Once the troops come home, that's what it's gonna be, there's already Price drops For EVERYTHING if you are Military or Spouse. How EASY will it be to get a Job as Military?

THEN! once our drones are destroyed and it comes time to buy more? Minimum Wage will go Down, Taxes will Go UP, and we will be a 24 Hour window for Anarchy.


You have to think about How LIVES cost Money too. So while we spend on this, we also have to spend on that because of the First part. We would be going backwards because of our Stupidity. And sooner or later... We will Fall
 

NLXSK1

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  • i find that especially difficult to believe since when you're not starting your totally super awesome businesses because obama!, you're war profiteering on government cheese to make fancy decorative badges for the menfolk. or something like that. i remember you telling us that you sewed badges for a while.​




I manufactured name tapes for BDU's for the military. That would have been back in Desert Storm. You know, when Iraq invaded Kuwait???

If you want to call managing a factory running 3 shifts operating 100 heads of Tajima 6 color embroidery machines sewing badges then you would be right.

Of course you basically missed the difference between WWI and WWII... The Iraq war I was opposed to was the 2nd one. You know, cause we went in because Bush Jr. was mad they tried to kill his daddy...

Good to know you really dont have a problem with the indiscriminate killing of brown people while calling everyone else racist...
 

UncleBuck

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oh, so you weren't even sewing badges for the menfolk, you would just carry a clip board and call the repair guy if need be. jesus christ, that's tough stuff dude.

still not buying the lie that you were opposed to the second iraq war and i guarantee i can look back not too far and find you defending it.

now tell me more about how obama got us tangled up in iraq. this promises to be grand.
 

NLXSK1

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oh, so you weren't even sewing badges for the menfolk, you would just carry a clip board and call the repair guy if need be. jesus christ, that's tough stuff dude.

still not buying the lie that you were opposed to the second iraq war and i guarantee i can look back not too far and find you defending it.

now tell me more about how obama got us tangled up in iraq. this promises to be grand.
This coming from a guy who hasnt had a real job in??? LOL Cheesybeard....
 
Innocent terrorists, I didn't know there was such a thing. Apparently, I have a lot more confidence in President Obama's knowledge of the terrorists that are being targeted than you do. The people that are being targeted are members of terrorist organizations who have already commited murderous acts against others. You sound alot like Hilowazupkush. Are you a friend of his?

I think its in this video, where they discuss the fact that Obama sends money to suspected terrorists all the time. Except that these guys are hired as contractors.
They also discuss a whole lot more.


[video=youtube;MB9pjddd7xo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB9pjddd7xo[/video]



You sound alot like Hilowazupkush. Are you a friend of his?
And you sound like a brainwashed yank, are you one?
 

Starwalker

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Highlowazupkush.

No wonder you're full of so much bullshit, the so-called news you're watching comes from RT (Russia Today) an international Russian-based network which is 100% owned and controled by the Russian Goverment. The reporters that work on the network say exactly what big brother (The Russian goverment) wants them to, nothing more, nothing less. In otherwords, they have no credibility.

You can bet your boots that everything the so-called reporter Abby Martin was saying was nothing more than Russian propaganda reviewed and approved by the goverment. If you actually believe that tripe, you're the one that's brainwashed, not me. Unlike some people, I think for myself. I thoroughly examine the real facts of the story before I make any final conclusions. You should try it sometime, it's not that difficult, you just have to be objective and openminded. On second thought, forget about it, you're so far gone that you're totaly beyond any kind of openmindedness or objectivity.
 

echelon1k1

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Innocent terrorists, I didn't know there was such a thing. Apparently, I have a lot more confidence in President Obama's knowledge of the terrorists that are being targeted than you do. The people that are being targeted are members of terrorist organizations who have already commited murderous acts against others.
LOL.... Firstly, Obama has given carte blanche to the CIA in regards to drone strikes. He doesn't green light them personally and is usually informed of a strike after the fact. He don't care, why do think he can't be fucked showing up for HIS national security briefings?

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-09-10/opinions/35497283_1_intelligence-president-obama-obama-officials

During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.
If you have any faith in obamas national security prowess, that says a lot about you and not in a good way...

Secondly, signature and personality strikes are the terms used for a drone warfare depending on the type of intelligence (or lack thereof) used to find/fix the target.

Signature strike is just profiling based on assumptions and probabilities and typically targets a group of people, personality strikes are used for high value targets and mainly individuals... The later of the two is the most precise and the earlier is the most frequent type of strike used.

Predator Drone Strikes: 50 Civilians Are Killed For Every 1 Terrorist, and the CIA Only Wants to Up Drone Warfare

'Signature Strikes' and the President's Empty Rhetoric on Drones
 
Highlowazupkush.

No wonder you're full of so much bullshit, the so-called news you're watching comes from RT (Russia Today) an international Russian-based network which is 100% owned and controled by the Russian Goverment. The reporters that work on the network say exactly what big brother (The Russian goverment) wants them to, nothing more, nothing less. In otherwords, they have no credibility.

You can bet your boots that everything the so-called reporter Abby Martin was saying was nothing more than Russian propaganda reviewed and approved by the goverment. If you actually believe that tripe, you're the one that's brainwashed, not me. Unlike some people, I think for myself. I thoroughly examine the real facts of the story before I make any final conclusions. You should try it sometime, it's not that difficult, you just have to be objective and openminded. On second thought, forget about it, you're so far gone that you're totaly beyond any kind of openmindedness or objectivity.

So you're not open to RT because they're Russian? Oh okay, well there's a shit ton of hypocrisy in your post right there!

Why would Russia create propaganda Against the USA, Starwalker?



Btw, I totally thought that the reporters on RT worked for free!!! honestly, I did! I didn't for one second consider that they must be paid allot!.. Oh no! not at all.


Oh and USA is super peaceful and they care about world peace and your health and safety.
 

echelon1k1

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When Bush was in office I was against going into Iraq. Once we did I said support the troops.

I was against going into Afganistan. I am against drone warfare on people who we really dont know shit about. Got a business rival you want eliminated? Just tell the Obama administration he works for Al-Qaida... BOOM, competition eliminated.

The administration ADMITS to up to 25% collateral damage which means it could be 40% or more.

How many American lives would we have saved just taking care of our own shit instead of being in Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan and all the other conflict the Nobel Peace Prize winner has gotten us tangled in??
http://www.smh.com.au/world/afghanistan-intelligence-flawed-says-excia-man-20100830-147ct.html

The former CIA officer , who is also the author of books such as See No Evil, The Devil We Know and Blow The House Down, has said the release of the secret reports has uncovered major flaws in the US military campaign, including that the information being used to justify deadly raids is fragmented, and largely coming from secondary sources. He has said much of the information appears to be from intelligence peddlers who are looking for a reward for passing on gossip.

"You cannot conduct special operations like that. You can't win a war that way,'' he said.
 
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