DWC 5 gal bucket clone problem

[goldenscrew]

Hi guys,
Picked up a clone from a dispensary around my neck of the woods and felt like giving DWC a shot. The clone was transplanted into the gal bucket with the roots about 2/3 down. The water levels are at the bottom quarter of the netpot and the airstone is bubbling the water up into it. The water was also prepared to technaflora's specifications and ph'd to 6.1 I'm new to hydro so this all so strange to me. Any suggestions? Don't want her to die

 

[radrolley]

Hi guys,
Picked up a clone from a dispensary around my neck of the woods and felt like giving DWC a shot. The clone was transplanted into the gal bucket with the roots about 2/3 down. The water levels are at the bottom quarter of the netpot and the airstone is bubbling the water up into it. The water was also prepared to technaflora's specifications and ph'd to 6.1 I'm new to hydro so this all so strange to me. Any suggestions? Don't want her to die
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could be several different things.

i know usually when plants start yellowing from the bottom up it can be not enough oxygen going to the roots but you say you have an air stone stone.

water temp can be a big factor. room temp or 68F they say is best but i have myself finished dwc with water temps 75-80F. root rot is nearly impossible to avoid at that temp though. you can put a trey of ice around the bucket to keep the water cooler.

i cant see the top growth all that good but maybe overfeeding. you could try 1/2 str of the nutrients.

how good is your ph meter? a lot of those cheap ones are junk. i've tested some side by side with the more expensive ones and some of the cheap ones are way off. get a blu lab or milwaukee mw 802.

what kind of lighting are you using? if you using CFLs you really need to get close. hps or mh make sure it's not too hot.

 

[topfuel29]

Hi guys,
Picked up a clone from a dispensary around my neck of the woods and felt like giving DWC a shot. The clone was transplanted into the gal bucket with the roots about 2/3 down. The water levels are at the bottom quarter of the netpot and the airstone is bubbling the water up into it. The water was also prepared to technaflora's specifications and ph'd to 6.1 I'm new to hydro so this all so strange to me. Any suggestions? Don't want her to die
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Your PH is High. you want that around 5.8, you can even go a little lower your PH will rebound back up to 6.1 then lower it again or change your nutrient solution.
Your roots are getting wet right?
You have to be careful of the PPM of your Nutrient solution. you start getting over 2000 PPM your getting into danger really quick.

 

[radrolley]

Your PH is High. you want that around 5.8, you can even go a little lower your PH will rebound back up to 6.1 then lower it again or change your nutrient solution.
Your roots are getting wet right?
You have to be careful of the PPM of your Nutrient solution. you start getting over 2000 PPM your getting into danger really quick.

sorry but a 6.1 ph is not going to make the plant look like that. in fact the recommended ph for hydro is 5.8 - 6.2. even if you drift off a little from that it's not going to make a huge difference. i've done dwc many times with my ph drifting to more like 6.5 and hardly had any problems at all. i myself prefer 5.8-6.0, but a bit higher than even 6.2 isnt the worst thing in the world. just make sure your meter is accurate.

 

[radrolley]

i seen that chart before and dont like it. here is why. http://www.420magazine.com/forums/h...roponic-nutrient-temperature-ph-tds-ec-2.html also nutrients are locked out at 5.6 and lower.

 

[goldenscrew]

could be several different things.

i know usually when plants start yellowing from the bottom up it can be not enough oxygen going to the roots but you say you have an air stone stone.

water temp can be a big factor. room temp or 68F they say is best but i have myself finished dwc with water temps 75-80F. root rot is nearly impossible to avoid at that temp though. you can put a trey of ice around the bucket to keep the water cooler.

i cant see the top growth all that good but maybe overfeeding. you could try 1/2 str of the nutrients.

how good is your ph meter? a lot of those cheap ones are junk. i've tested some side by side with the more expensive ones and some of the cheap ones are way off. get a blu lab or milwaukee mw 802.

what kind of lighting are you using? if you using CFLs you really need to get close. hps or mh make sure it's not too hot.

Thank for the response!

Im going to drain and redo the solution tonight to half strength. I do need to get a new pH meter but I also doubled verified with test strips. Currently, its under a t12 which i will lower and add some supplemental light and see what happens.

Again thank you!

 

[goldenscrew]

Your PH is High. you want that around 5.8, you can even go a little lower your PH will rebound back up to 6.1 then lower it again or change your nutrient solution.
Your roots are getting wet right?
You have to be careful of the PPM of your Nutrient solution. you start getting over 2000 PPM your getting into danger really quick.

The technaflora guide said anywhere between 5.8-6.2 is acceptable, since it will be redone, ill try and get it on the lower side and see if that helps. Yes the roots are getting wet.

Thanks for the chart and response!

 

[radrolley]

i know this doesnt really answer your question but i'd like to add, supplementing oxygen to roots is very underrated in hydro. you say you have an air stone, and that is pretty much needed. is it a pretty decent one? i prefer air diffusers myself. they make ones that fix exactly in a 5 gal. on my deep water i use http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oxygen-Shie...185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eba76b829 with this you also need a pretty good pump. i use one somewhat similar to this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Pump-Su...631?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519af0ce0f it's insane all the bubbles it makes.

if your air stone is pretty good, you should be able to get away with it just fine. i've used cheap ones for aquariums before without much trouble. get a good pump and a diffuser and it's a really nice boost for you plant's health.

as far as that t12 light, they are not really that great for growing. you may be able to veg under it ok though. most ppl just use t12 for cloning. t5s have a much better output and are not all that expensive. keep that light as close as possible but dont let it touch the plant. a 26w CFL with a decent hood, all which you can buy at walmart for pretty cheap, may actually be even a better light setup for a plant that size. or you can get several around it. the cheap walmart hoods even have clips so the placement of them has a lot of versatility.

if you plan on getting that plant big and want better results, i would get a hps. even just a 400w isnt too bad. just make sure to try and keep that water cool. 68F is best. you can get away with warmer water temps but you will probably get root rot. you can still have a great crop, but you yield will suffer. i've had my water temps as high as 80F and still got about 5 ounces a plant. it was grown pretty big and had excellent lighting though. dont confuse that with your room's temp. that you want a bit warmer like 75-80F. too cold and you risk powdery mildew. humidity is the biggest factor for mold, but from my experience, temp is another real big thing. some strains of PM dont need much humidity. just the little condensation from the temp changed caused by going from light to dark is enough for spores to reproduce. read this is a gardening magazine and found it to be very true.

good luck

 

[jamezsr]

you must center the plant in the middle of the bucket
you planted a hydro plant at the edge of the bucket and the roots touching the plastic thats why its dying from the heat
learn first how to plant one clone and how to center it (.)