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captainmorgan

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Yeah I knew they were lying, remember how they said Saddam had mobile germ warfare labs, yeah sure they have trucks driving around the desert making bio weapons, that was a whopper.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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China praises ties to Russia, sending aid to Ukraine
China’s foreign minister on Monday referred to Russia as Beijing's “most important strategic partner” despite growing casualties amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Wang Yi specifically referred to China's ties with Russia as “one of the most crucial bilateral relationships in the world,” The Associated Press reported.

As the U.S., the European Union and much of the rest of the world which has imposed sanctions against Russia in response to the invasion, China has refused to condemn Russia's actions throughout the attack in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, China claims that sanctions create other issues and jeopardize a political solution to the crisis.

“No matter how perilous the international landscape, we will maintain our strategic focus and promote the development of a comprehensive China-Russia partnership in the new era,” Wang said.

Wang also had a call with Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Saturday, during which he said China did not want to “add fuel to the flames” in Ukraine. Instead, he called for negotiations to resolve the crisis, the AP added.

Reuters noted that Wang also said China's Red Cross would provide aid to Ukraine "as soon as possible," marking the first announcement of such help from Beijing in the crisis. Wang did not provide further details of what that aid would entail.

Russia's attack on Ukraine has prompted comparisons to China and Taiwan. But Wang said Taiwan was a “fundamentally different” issue from Ukraine because the island is “an inalienable part of China’s territory,” according to the wire service.

Last month, Chinese leader Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Beijing. Following that meeting, the leaders issued a joint statement, saying they had “strong mutual support for the protection of their core interests.”

Russia has voiced support of Taiwan as “inalienable part of China, and opposes any forms of independence of Taiwan,” and China had supported Russia's opposition to enlarging NATO.
China we can deal with, do "business", Vlad is another matter, with him we will do another kind of "business", since the regular kind doesn't work.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Ukraine: Moscow's humanitarian corridors to Russia, Belarus 'unacceptable'
Moscow on Monday announced new humanitarian corridors for civilians to flee from Ukraine to neighboring Russia and Belarus, a proposal that Kyiv is labeling as “unacceptable.”

The majority of the routes proposed by Moscow led to Russia or Belarus, which has close ties with Russia, according to Reuters. One of the pathways would bring civilians from Kyiv to Belarus, and another would transport individuals from Kharkiv to Russia, Reuters noted, citing maps published by the RIA news agency.

Moscow would also airlift individuals from Kyiv to Russia, the news service reported, citing the Russian defense ministry.

Pathways would also reportedly begin in Kharkiv, Sumy and Mariupol.

Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Irina Vereshchuk said Russia’s cease-fire proposal was “unacceptable,” according to The Associated Press.

Additionally, a spokesperson for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky blasted the proposal as “completely immoral,” arguing that Moscow was making an attempt to “use people's suffering to create a television picture,” according to Reuters.

“They are citizens of Ukraine, they should have the right to evacuate to the territory of Ukraine,” the spokesperson added.

Russia’s proposal for humanitarian corridors comes one day after a second evacuation attempt from Mariupol was canceled. On both Saturday and Sunday, a cease-fire to evacuate civilians from Ukraine failed.

On Saturday, both sides blamed one another for violating a cease-fire agreement, and on Sunday, the mayor of Mariupol — where civilians were trying to flee — accused Russian troops of breaking the deal with “intense shelling.”

The latest Russian proposition came on the twelfth day of the invasion, which began when Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a military operation in Ukraine.

More than 1.7 million refugees have fled Ukraine since the invasion began thus far, the BBC reported on Monday, citing the United Nations.
fuck russia and their one way trip to a gulag....the Ukrainians are supposed to deliver hostages to the russians? just a fucking shitty ploy on the russian's part, so they can later say "we offered you humanitarian aid, but you refused" dirty fucking lying cocksuckers
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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40% of nothing is still nothing
i know, people keep saying "it's worth less than a penny now"...but it wasn't worth two pennies to start off with...
and hasn't been for quite a while. in the 80s a family making 200 rubles could live...not well, but not starving. then came the great recession, and the ruble dropped significantly, then the soviet union collapsed in 91 and it dropped more, while a series of poor choices has kept it low ever since
 

DIY-HP-LED

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fuck russia and their one way trip to a gulag....the Ukrainians are supposed to deliver hostages to the russians? just a fucking shitty ploy on the russian's part, so they can later say "we offered you humanitarian aid, but you refused" dirty fucking lying cocksuckers
Hostages? Are they going to execute them like the Nazis?
 

Kerowacked

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Yeah I knew they were lying, remember how they said Saddam had mobile germ warfare labs, yeah sure they have trucks driving around the desert making bio weapons, that was a whopper.
The worst was the giant gun aimed at israel, i worked pipelines, i know pipelines, it was a length of joints for a hill climb.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hostages? Are they going to execute them like the Nazis?
i don't know what they have in mind, but i very seriously doubt they're offering aid to their own enemies without an ulterior motive...
do you think they're going to offer them aid, medical assistance, and then let them go? any Ukrainian that goes into russia, i would be highly surprised to ever see alive again
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i don't watch skynews, they're right wing propagandist of the worst sort
They changed ownership and their tune somewhat, but they are still seeking to engage to enrage somewhat. They are providing some dramatic coverage from inside with experienced hard bitten foreign correspondents that have big balls.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i don't know what they have in mind, but i very seriously doubt they're offering aid to their own enemies without an ulterior motive...
do you think they're going to offer them aid, medical assistance, and then let them go? any Ukrainian that goes into russia, i would be highly surprised to ever see alive again
They would not want them spreading the news around inside Russia! There will be enough returning troops to do that, the more he pours in the more who will know the truth, the psychological warfare section will be working over the occupying troops with Russian language newspapers published outside Russia by Russians and other things. Right now they can get Ukrainian TV in most places and of course the old standby of propaganda, radio.
 
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