War

DIY-HP-LED

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Every abled bodied man in Ukraine over 18 has been drafted or volunteered, a country of 45 million souls, at least 10 million men fit for military service, 5 million could be very good combat troops, the population and volunteers will provide most of the logistical support. NATO probably has millions of soviet AK47s in warehouses and in use for Warsaw pact countries who are now NATO members stored in warehouses. They can use captured Russian ammunition too, many in Ukraine are familiar with them and best of all the Russians made and paid for them, though they are still made in eastern European countries.

It is an amazing coincidence that millions of assault weapons and their ammunition would be so quickly and closely available to quickly equip millions of men. Warsaw pact armies were mass conscript armies, so there are plenty of guns. We are hearing a lot about the new shiny weapons that NATO is providing and fighter planes, which are important, but these arms and the many thousands of RPGs NATO happened to have on hand will be the work horses of this war. Imagine trying to procure a million guns, you would have to scour the arms markets of the world and pay a fortune, these weapons will most likely be free. It's one of the reasons why I think the Ukrainians can hold their country. It will be a race, arms are one thing, organization and training are another, the more time the better.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ukrainians still have TV in most places, though few are probably watching, local news coverage must be intense in Europe, especially in eastern Europe, they must be getting a lot more of this kind of thing.

I wonder if Vlad is seeing any of the western news coverage? He has satellite TV, if they didn't cut his contract and access! Stalin used to listen to the BBC Russian language news religiously, it's where he got his info on the world, he trusted them!
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You betray me': Ukrainian's message to former Russian friends
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Turkey has been on pariah status for a while now... I was amazed you got the cooperation you have until now from him...
I'm sure he sees it as an opportunity to lighten the blight against his name.
The heat is off him for now, he sees opportunity in this, Turkey is on the ropes financially and he has a canal project to the black sea on the go. Others might be interested in this project now as it increases access to the Black sea, even for warships in wartime, since it isn't covered by treaty. Large American warships could have access to the Black sea with this sucker, even aircraft carriers and would pay large fees to do it too! Something for after Ukraine is liberated and perhaps some other places close by too. Many NATO counties border on the Black sea as well.
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Turkey’s Plans for a $20BN Istanbul Canal

 
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Puff_Dragon

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I get the feeling, in movie terms, we're about 45 minutes from the end of 'Don't look up'

fyi:
Many countries in this war, have allied down the same lines as WW2.
And remember, Soviet Russia was allied with Nazis Germany at the start of WW2.
They invaded Poland with the Nazis' and committed atrocities there with them. The Soviets, only became neutral (strong words for Stalin's plan) after Britain declared war on Germany.

This dirty secret has been covered up by Russia (to later generations of Russians). Instead, framing a narrative where Russia won WW2 (with no help from any of the bumbling West).
Funny enough, even in the Western education system, this historic fact had been purposely cut/censored ..by teachers and school system governors, who ally their beliefs with communist/marxist/socialist ideologies.
Its a big problem in schools especially today (as the same types of teacher radicalise students too).
Only recently, has government started to look into this issue and do arrests and firings. Decades after they should have been checking for this.

Interesting to note how much this new war connects to WW2.
While Italy and Japan have changed (and moved on from nationalism etc etc).
Many of the other countries, allied with Nazis Germany, didn't.
And even absorbed (through escaped Nazis') Nationalism, socialism, ideologies from the Nazis they let live in their countries after WW2 (until today).

Also, these Nazis (who can be found living in populations of over 100,000 these days) also seeded these countries with anti-western hate. Based on hate towards European empire history (while ignoring the abuses of the empires in the rest of the world - throughout history).
And a hate for the western banking system (i.e. the modern take on 'the jew').

These places, include South America! Remember I mentioned there are populations of over 100,000 Nazis (living in some countries today).
Did I also mention these Nazis, never accepted they lost WW2? (and have been working since WW2 to change things)
Other countries that remained allied included places in North Africa, the Middle East and areas in Asia.
Did anyone notice the anti-Semitism in the Middle East over the last 60 years? (as an example), It was effected heavily by Nazisum during (and especially, after) WW2.
Heck, the president of Palestine speaks exactly like Adolf Hitler every day (and always has).
Notice how some (in the West) have supported Palestine without even seeing the leader or knowing about this hate? What medias would allow that, I wonder?

Also, has the media mentioned the way countries are allying?
Or, ever mentioned a long established form of Nazisum. Aimed at vilifying Western history/populations?
There have always been many forms of Nasisum not just 'one'. Or, have some media (and some schools) supported it ..in a round about way.

Oh well, Don't look up!
Anyone worried about missile defence, remember during Star Wars they created things like Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles!
Check some footage out (well over 30 years old now) -
And these vehicles, move much faster ..in zero G. And have evolved further.

Did I mention all the Plasma based technologies, hidden from the public since WW2 ('foo fighters' were the first secret tech - early stealth/radar blocking). These modern plasma techs include 3d holograms ('counter counter' measures), lasers (far beyond what you think), flying plasma orbs (which effect people exactly like natural Earthlights do - i.e. cause profound hallucinations when close). Biological weapons, that cause your perception of reality to alter.
Oh and TicTaks ..we have TicTaks (*lol*)

Oh well, a rant of random information. All correct and historically accurate.
"Don't look up!"
;-)

As for little old me, with a family that spent the whole Cold War fighting to win (and served in leaderships).
I quit working (like the rest of my family). Locked my money away (as people did before WW2 to protect it)
Now spending my days chilling in nature (away from the concrete) ..while learning a Guitar finger style version of Skeeter Davis's haunting classic 'The End of the World'.

All fun aside;
Lets just hope, before things go too far, leaders/military back away from the edge. And hope, our leaders never believe they are safe in their extinction level event bases (the ones that replaced the old nuclear bunkers, in secret). Because that might make them trigger happy.

However, even if things cool down, the next conflict (after this) ..isn't far off.
I will no longer support a system of governance that causes this.
Its time for the people to enjoy life, with a good slice of ♬kay sera sera♬
"Don't look up!"

Rant finally over :)
And, Peace to my fellow humans
 

captainmorgan

Well-Known Member
The US is pulling back from global free trade and will do it on a more regional basis going forward. What does that mean, the US military will not be the worlds police anymore and guarantee safe global trade routes. The US has pulled most of it's military out of the middle east since leaving Afghanistan so the area is a powder keg waiting for some old tribal grudge to light the fuse. The US's European troop levels are very low so the EU better start arming itself which they are. The US fleet is now more in southeast Asia to stop China from taking over the region. Demography of human populations is driving all this, aging and low birth rates. It looks like the party is over and nobody can afford to pick up the bill anymore. It looks pretty bleak for areas on the map that have aging populations and not many young people and that don't have the natural resources to take care of themselves. The next ten years may be the stuff of nightmares when you look at what human beings are capable of doing to each other.
 

captainmorgan

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Saudi Arabia and Iran are bitter religious enemies that have been kept apart by the US military. Even with prosperity from all the oil revenue they couldn't get past their hatred for each other. They have both used their oil money to fight proxy wars against each other and their neighbors by creating and funding groups like Al-Qaeda,Hezbollah and ISIS to name a few. Without a referee I don't see the region being stable for long.
 

Paul Drake

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I get the feeling, in movie terms, we're about 45 minutes from the end of 'Don't look up'

fyi:
Many countries in this war, have allied down the same lines as WW2.
And remember, Soviet Russia was allied with Nazis Germany at the start of WW2.
They invaded Poland with the Nazis' and committed atrocities there with them. The Soviets, only became neutral (strong words for Stalin's plan) after Britain declared war on Germany.

This dirty secret has been covered up by Russia (to later generations of Russians). Instead, framing a narrative where Russia won WW2 (with no help from any of the bumbling West).
Funny enough, even in the Western education system, this historic fact had been purposely cut/censored ..by teachers and school system governors, who ally their beliefs with communist/marxist/socialist ideologies.
Its a big problem in schools especially today (as the same types of teacher radicalise students too).
Only recently, has government started to look into this issue and do arrests and firings. Decades after they should have been checking for this.

Interesting to note how much this new war connects to WW2.
While Italy and Japan have changed (and moved on from nationalism etc etc).
Many of the other countries, allied with Nazis Germany, didn't.
And even absorbed (through escaped Nazis') Nationalism, socialism, ideologies from the Nazis they let live in their countries after WW2 (until today).

Also, these Nazis (who can be found living in populations of over 100,000 these days) also seeded these countries with anti-western hate. Based on hate towards European empire history (while ignoring the abuses of the empires in the rest of the world - throughout history).
And a hate for the western banking system (i.e. the modern take on 'the jew').

These places, include South America! Remember I mentioned there are populations of over 100,000 Nazis (living in some countries today).
Did I also mention these Nazis, never accepted they lost WW2? (and have been working since WW2 to change things)
Other countries that remained allied included places in North Africa, the Middle East and areas in Asia.
Did anyone notice the anti-Semitism in the Middle East over the last 60 years? (as an example), It was effected heavily by Nazisum during (and especially, after) WW2.
Heck, the president of Palestine speaks exactly like Adolf Hitler every day (and always has).
Notice how some (in the West) have supported Palestine without even seeing the leader or knowing about this hate? What medias would allow that, I wonder?

Also, has the media mentioned the way countries are allying?
Or, ever mentioned a long established form of Nazisum. Aimed at vilifying Western history/populations?
There have always been many forms of Nasisum not just 'one'. Or, have some media (and some schools) supported it ..in a round about way.

Oh well, Don't look up!
Anyone worried about missile defence, remember during Star Wars they created things like Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicles!
Check some footage out (well over 30 years old now) -
And these vehicles, move much faster ..in zero G. And have evolved further.

Did I mention all the Plasma based technologies, hidden from the public since WW2 ('foo fighters' were the first secret tech - early stealth/radar blocking). These modern plasma techs include 3d holograms ('counter counter' measures), lasers (far beyond what you think), flying plasma orbs (which effect people exactly like natural Earthlights do - i.e. cause profound hallucinations when close). Biological weapons, that cause your perception of reality to alter.
Oh and TicTaks ..we have TicTaks (*lol*)

Oh well, a rant of random information. All correct and historically accurate.
"Don't look up!"
;-)

As for little old me, with a family that spent the whole Cold War fighting to win (and served in leaderships).
I quit working (like the rest of my family). Locked my money away (as people did before WW2 to protect it)
Now spending my days chilling in nature (away from the concrete) ..while learning a Guitar finger style version of Skeeter Davis's haunting classic 'The End of the World'.

All fun aside;
Lets just hope, before things go too far, leaders/military back away from the edge. And hope, our leaders never believe they are safe in their extinction level event bases (the ones that replaced the old nuclear bunkers, in secret). Because that might make them trigger happy.

However, even if things cool down, the next conflict (after this) ..isn't far off.
I will no longer support a system of governance that causes this.
Its time for the people to enjoy life, with a good slice of ♬kay sera sera♬
"Don't look up!"

Rant finally over :)
And, Peace to my fellow humans
Tl;dnr history lesson que sera sera
 

captainmorgan

Well-Known Member

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
Did I mention all the Plasma based technologies, hidden from the public since WW2 ('foo fighters' were the first secret tech - early stealth/radar blocking). These modern plasma techs include 3d holograms ('counter counter' measures), lasers (far beyond what you think), flying plasma orbs (which effect people exactly like natural Earthlights do - i.e. cause profound hallucinations when close). Biological weapons, that cause your perception of reality to alter.
Oh and TicTaks ..we have TicTaks (*lol*)

Oh well, a rant of random information. All correct and historically accurate.
if it's all hidden from the public, how did you come by the information?...you started off questionably and quickly dissolved into Qanon territory.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
there has been something bothering me for a while now..
i understand why everyone is upset over putin's actions...but why isn't everyone upset over whats going on in Syria? in Yemen?
what about what the Israelis have been doing to the Palestinians for decades?
this phrase has been used multiple times in this thread "white christians with guns and guts"....
why are the Ukrainians worth fighting for, but not the Yemenis, the Syrians, or the Palestinians?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/russia-ukraine-war-media-bias-west-blatant-racism

the media isn't even aware of the blatantly racist way they report on a lot of issues
https://theconversation.com/refugees-reporting-and-the-far-right-how-the-ukraine-crisis-reveals-brutal-everyday-racism-in-europe-and-beyond-178410

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/opinions/ukraine-war-racist-stereotypes-joseph/index.html

i'm still all for supporting the Ukrainians, and kicking putin's ass, but maybe the world could muster more than a shrug when its brown people or non christians getting slaughtered, and not white christians?
 

Polly Wog

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The US has been busy bring home vital industries and building new infrastructure, steel mills, microchip fabs you name it, some will even be coming online this year.
But Americans are spoiled by cheap imports. So are most consumers around the world. Automation will continue. Those COVID convoys will be replaced by robot drivers. The new dog food plant down the road will open this year. Super automation. ~350 employees when finished. Very few fork lift drivers etc. I'm not sure where everyone is going to work in the future.
 
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