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Heads Up · Nov 5, 2011

Anyone on here part of the one percent of the wealthiest Americans?

I've been breezing through some of the political threads and am rather perplexed as to why so many people side with the one percent of the wealthiest americans. Why do so many people worry about what their tax rate is when the wealthiest and most powerful in america have loopholes and offshore accounts to hide their money and pay a relatively low tax rate, if any, on their money and most of their money is made on investments which is not earned income and can't be taxed as such.

Why do so many people vote against their own best interests if they are not part of the one percent?

If you are part of the one percent, are your taxes too high?

NoDrama · Nov 5, 2011

Who has my best interest at heart?

smokinrav · Nov 5, 2011

The 1% and their taxes is nothing but a smokescreen hiding the fact that the 1% control 100% of US politics.

deprave · Nov 5, 2011

taxes have nothing to do with it, taxes are too high for everyone. Like rav said above its that the 1% control everything.

What exactly is that supposed to mean voting against your own interest really? Voting for anyone but a 3rd party is voting against your own interest(unless Ron Paul wins the Repub nomination). The democrats and republicans are in the same club, the jp morgan chase of Rothschild-Rockafellar america club and you aren't in that club.

dukeanthony · Nov 5, 2011

Heads Up said:
Anyone on here part of the one percent of the wealthiest Americans?

I've been breezing through some of the political threads and am rather perplexed as to why so many people side with the one percent of the wealthiest americans. Why do so many people worry about what their tax rate is when the wealthiest and most powerful in america have loopholes and offshore accounts to hide their money and pay a relatively low tax rate, if any, on their money and most of their money is made on investments which is not earned income and can't be taxed as such.

Why do so many people vote against their own best interests if they are not part of the one percent?

If you are part of the one percent, are your taxes too high?

Bizarre isnt it?

FlyLikeAnEagle · Nov 5, 2011

Watch FOX News for a few hours and it'll all make sense. Half of America consists of gullible retards that will believe anything they are spoon fed.

dukeanthony · Nov 5, 2011

FlyLikeAnEagle said:
Watch FOX News for a few hours and it'll all make sense. Half of America consists of gullible retards that will believe anything they are spoon fed.

2 things you need to know
Fox is on broadcast television in every market
Limbaugh is on AM radio
Now you know everything you need to know about who listens to them

NoDrama · Nov 5, 2011

dukeanthony said:
2 things you need to know
Fox is on broadcast television in every market
Limbaugh is on AM radio
Now you know everything you need to know about who listens to them

What have we learned from this info you have given us? Not a fucking thing. Everyone already knows Rush is on radio and that FOX is a TV network. Anything else there captain Obvious?

Heads Up · Nov 5, 2011

deprave said:
taxes have nothing to do with it, taxes are too high for everyone. Like rav said above its that the 1% control everything.

What exactly is that supposed to mean voting against your own interest really? Voting for anyone but a 3rd party is voting against your own interest(unless Ron Paul wins the Repub nomination). The democrats and republicans are in the same club, the jp morgan chase of Rothschild-Rockafellar america club and you aren't in that club.

Voting against ones best interests in my opinion is voting republican unless you are a part of the one percent of the wealthiest americans. I will however make a concession, if you are in the top ten percent I can see why you would vote republican.

To be clear, I do agree most everyone from both parties is controlled to some extent by corporate america and their multi-national conglomerate empires. I also disagree that voting for anyone who is not a third party member is a wasted vote. I would rather vote for Obama than cast my vote for a third party member and with that allow another republican into the white house. Congressman Paul has zero chance of ever getting the nod from the GOP. He is the only conservative amongst all the other false prophets who claim to be conservative in the republican party and you see how he is treated, like a crackpot.

Canna Sylvan · Nov 5, 2011

Heads Up said:
If you are part of the one percent, are your taxes too high?

Why can't I spend ten years being a doctor, working for 20 years and invest it. If I'm lucky and work hard I can have a bank account with $6,000,000 and have spent $1,000,000 living. I would then be a 1%er. When I become 48 I could buy myself some beach front property and sit on my ass for the rest of my life.

Instead I should pay all that money I earned doctoring and investing to redistribute to you by paying more taxes? Again, as I said in my thread, fuck you occupy shit heads!

dukeanthony · Nov 5, 2011

Canna Sylvan said:
Why can't I spend ten years being a doctor, working for 20 years and invest it. If I'm lucky and work hard I can have a bank account with $6,000,000 and have spent $1,000,000 living. I would then be a 1%er. When I become 48 I could buy myself some beach front property and sit on my ass for the rest of my life.

Instead I should pay all that money I earned doctoring and investing to redistribute to you by paying more taxes? Again, as I said in my thread, fuck you occupy shit heads!

But you dont pay more in taxes
Since most of your Income is now Capital gains You pay less percentage wise than all the people that make sure you have your supplies and your Roads, utilities and Building maintenance is taken care of

Canna Sylvan · Nov 5, 2011

Duke,
I saw you voted against the occupy. The poll used to be public, now it seems to be private. You know why I am. You don't seem to be the type.

deprave · Nov 5, 2011

Canna Sylvan said:
Why can't I spend ten years being a doctor, working for 20 years and invest it. If I'm lucky and work hard I can have a bank account with $6,000,000 and have spent $1,000,000 living. I would then be a 1%er. When I become 48 I could buy myself some beach front property and sit on my ass for the rest of my life.

Instead I should pay all that money I earned doctoring and investing to redistribute to you by paying more taxes? Again, as I said in my thread, fuck you occupy shit heads!

no you wouldn't be, 1%'er is over 700k per year.

deprave · Nov 5, 2011

Heads Up said:
Voting against ones best interests in my opinion is voting republican unless you are a part of the one percent of the wealthiest americans. I will however make a concession, if you are in the top ten percent I can see why you would vote republican.

To be clear, I do agree most everyone from both parties is controlled to some extent by corporate america and their multi-national conglomerate empires. I also disagree that voting for anyone who is not a third party member is a wasted vote. I would rather vote for Obama than cast my vote for a third party member and with that allow another republican into the white house. Congressman Paul has zero chance of ever getting the nod from the GOP. He is the only conservative amongst all the other false prophets who claim to be conservative in the republican party and you see how he is treated, like a crackpot.

Obama and the democrats are just as big of conmen, I feel bad you buy into their lies..Id rather no banker puppets in office....Obama is exactly the same as a republican, there is virtually no difference, Just different rhetoric.

Canna Sylvan · Nov 5, 2011

deprave said:
no you wouldn't be, 1%'er is over 700k per year.

That's why I think you guys are full of shit. Every single occupy is either a liar or uninformed or both. Everywhere says $343,927 for 1%, I just rounded up to nearest $10k. Look it up. 2010 numbers haven't been released yet. $424,413 was the maximum 1% peak during the 2007 tax year. Ever since it has been declining sharply. Please stop the bullshit, it really stinks. You won't have people fall for your lies much longer. Haha, over $700k? Is that how rounding is taught now? Why not just say a million or a billion, how about a trillion as long as you're making up numbers.

deprave · Nov 5, 2011

Canna Sylvan said:
That's why I think you guys are full of shit. Every single occupy is either a liar or uninformed or both. Everywhere says $343,927 for 1%, I just rounded up to nearest $10k. Look it up. 2010 numbers haven't been released yet. $424,413 was the maximum 1% peak during the 2007 tax year. Ever since it has been declining sharply. Please stop the bullshit, it really stinks. You won't have people fall for your lies much longer. Haha, over $700k? Is that how rounding is taught now? Why not just say a million or a billion, how about a trillion as long as you're making up numbers.

Thats because your counting AFTER TAXES, you never made salary have you? Nice how you look at the first hits you see on google all published recently IRS figures AFTER taxes..750,000$ is from good source...MY BRAIN..which has gathered it from many sources as I actually study this. Look it up again please and ignore AFTER taxes stats and IRS stats.

I see you went on Google or asked Jeeves and typed precisely "How much does the 1% make?" and landed nicely on tons of conservative articles via the front page...Please dig a little deeper, have a nice day.

DelSlow · Nov 5, 2011

Canna Sylvan said:
Why can't I spend ten years being a doctor, working for 20 years and invest it. If I'm lucky and work hard I can have a bank account with $6,000,000 and have spent $1,000,000 living. I would then be a 1%er. When I become 48 I could buy myself some beach front property and sit on my ass for the rest of my life.

Instead I should pay all that money I earned doctoring and investing to redistribute to you by paying more taxes? Again, as I said in my thread, fuck you occupy shit heads!

You're not really a doctor, are you?

Canna Sylvan · Nov 5, 2011

deprave said:
Thats because your counting AFTER TAXES, you never made salary have you? Nice how you look at the first hits you see on google all published recently IRS figures AFTER taxes..750,000$ is from good source...MY BRAIN..which has gathered it from many sources as I actually study this. Look it up again please and ignore AFTER taxes stats and IRS stats.

I see you went on Google or asked Jeeves and typed precisely "How much does the 1% make?" and landed nicely on tons of conservative articles via the front page...Please dig a little deeper, have a nice day.

CNN, actually. Can't get more communist than that.
$343,927.00 is AGI( all taxable income). $245,288.590 is NI, or after taxes as you put it. Putting you at a 28.68% tax bracket. Have a nice day?

deprave · Nov 6, 2011

well cnn lies lol
they say 700k here
[video=youtube;FTRvN3FfhyA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTRvN3FfhyA[/video]

Canna Sylvan · Nov 6, 2011

Deprave,

money.cnn.com/2011/10/20/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_income/index.htm

Look at the chart, source irs. Yeah, CNN lies. I checked everywhere. The same chart is posted everywhere.

Sorry if I called you a liar, ok? I guess I put you in the uninformed category? Better?

I'm bipolar. Out of meds. Having a mixed episide today. It's hell!

But $343k and $700k is a big difference? $343k is doable with capital gains for an average doctor, $700k isn't unless you doing sneaky stuff!

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