1000w cfl wa u think?

hi 2 all u cfl lovers im hoping u will welcome me 2 ya crew,, i am usually a hps grower but due 2 constant battles with heat, and the now available 1000w cfl im gunna swap 4 my next grow. i have purchased this set up wit 3 6400k and 1 2700k for veg stage and i plan to reverse that for flowering. here is the link to the website .http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/ENVIRO-gro-LITES__W0QQ_armrsZ1 there is also lots of good info on the p.a.r of these lights and the advantage over hps due 2 hps having only 15% p.a.r and the rest is infra red heat etc etc which u all mite like to read also how lumens is irrelevant to plant growth as lumens is the amount of light seen by the human eye and p.a.r is wat is important as that is wat the plant absorbs anyways any tips frm u growers of the cfl styleeee would be appreciated

I would shop around prices are high there

i am also looking to run 3x 105 watt 6500k and 1x 2700 for veg and opposite for flowering.
You can get 2x 105 watt for around 50 buck US$

yeah but the reflector is gd build and i dont have to ship it across the pond i managed 2 gt it for 181 quid in the end still expensive but im so miffed wit trying to keep room cool its gotta be worth it. the range over ya all seems 2 be the same price thirty quid for a bulb red or blue 250w and these people are the only ones to do a 4 lamp reflector. i take it u have grown b4 wit cfls, do u get tight nugs at the nd?

4000 watts of cfl would be for how many sq ft of plants?

Illegal Smile said:

4000 watts of cfl would be for how many sq ft of plants?

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well this is an awkward one to answer! apparently 1 watt = 64 lumens so 1000w = 64,000 lumens 64,000 lumens x 4 = 256,000 lumens however, aparrently it is not the lumens that are importnat, lumens is the measurement for the amount of light your eye can see.. wat we need is the p.a.r which is wat the measurement is for wat the plant can see or absorb to make photosynthesis happen.. cfls are higher in this band than hps due to hps having more variables of the colour spectrum, some of which the plnts dont use... i will be running the 1000w with 3 plants in a 1m2 area never grown wit cfls before so we will see how it goes,, have heard of fluffy buds being a prob wit cfls so im hoping the overkill for 3 plants will help the buds get denser

Why go overkill? Use like 600 watts or something. 1000 is just ridiculous. It's not like 1000 watts of CFL will be easier to keep cool than HPS, it will still get hot.

!'ll be watching because I am curious to see what would happen, but it sounds crazy to me.

peace

NorthWest69 said:

Why go overkill? Use like 600 watts or something. 1000 is just ridiculous. It's not like 1000 watts of CFL will be easier to keep cool than HPS, it will still get hot.

!'ll be watching because I am curious to see what would happen, but it sounds crazy to me.

peace

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There's no way a 1000 watt cfl gets as hot as the equivalent watt hps and you never can have too much light! One of the main reason for using cfls to begin with is to have better control of temps.

sweetsmoker said:

yeah but the reflector is gd build and i dont have to ship it across the pond i managed 2 gt it for 181 quid in the end still expensive but im so miffed wit trying to keep room cool its gotta be worth it. the range over ya all seems 2 be the same price thirty quid for a bulb red or blue 250w and these people are the only ones to do a 4 lamp reflector. i take it u have grown b4 wit cfls, do u get tight nugs at the nd?

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Hey all, i purchased some of these with the reflectors in the link above and i would say dont buy them, the reflectors have a mirror finish which causes major heat problems, i have just binned my reflectors.. Hope this helps,
P.s im now running 500watts daylight and 120 watts warm. ladies are loving it..

Cap K said:

There's no way a 1000 watt cfl gets as hot as the equivalent watt hps and you never can have too much light! One of the main reason for using cfls to begin with is to have better control of temps.

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You can have too much light. It's called wasting energy, and I assure you it's quite possible.

Have you grown with 1000 watts of HPS and CFL before Cap K? I really doubt you have.

I've heard of people replacing 300 watts of CFls, with a 250 watt HPS system, and their grow room dropped by 5 degrees.
Just because one CFL bulb is cooler than HPS, doesn't mean they dont add up. If you use like 12 + CFL bulbs, it's going to start getting pretty hot.

1000 watts of any light will put out around the same amount of heat

Thanks tom_420

NorthWest69 said:

You can have too much light. It's called wasting energy, and I assure you it's quite possible.

Have you grown with 1000 watts of HPS and CFL before Cap K? I really doubt you have.

I've heard of people replacing 300 watts of CFls with a 250 watt HPS system and their grow room dropped by 5 degrees. Just because one CFL is cooler than HPS doesn't mean they dont add up if you use like 12 CFL bulbs.

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i hate to burst ya im so right bubble m8 but i have a 1000w cfl and a 600 400 and 250w hps the cfls are sooo much cooler i can touch the bulb after a day on,, try an do that with a 6oow hps an u burn ya fingers off. also if 1000w gives me 64000 lumens and my grow room is 1m2 then the reqiured lumens wud be 90,000 so it aint overkill, also i aint using like 12 cfls.. jus 4 in a cooled reflector all cool enuff to touch maybe u shud listen to others less and test it yaself before u start knocking peeps, the reason i went for 1000w is cos i know a 250w cfl grower whos buds are nice cud be a bit denser and i reckon he wud yield more if he had more light, the room is cooled with 6" fan straight from outdoors and has a 4" cfilter taking it outdoors also. i dont know it all like some claim to, but i know a little and havent gt time for peeps who have HEARD of peeps doing this n that, if u dont know for a fact dont say shit. especially if its negative. anthing positive to say jump on board my man, i am due to germinate my 3 easy riders in bout 3 weeks wen my b cheese is finished under my 400w HPS which keeps my room at an unhealthy 32.c despite extreme air exchange. and burns my fingers lol serious bud how can u say a cfl is as hot as a hps fck sake have u ever been in a room with a 250w cfl before

sorry tom but i disagree judging on the fact i have both hps and cfl running at the mo and like i said can touch the bulbs where as my hps wud burn me to fck, i once touched a bit tape on the bulb by accident when trying to tape my extractor as close to the bulb as possible and it melted to the bulb and started smoking in 2 secs flat. maybe if there was no air exchange in the room the eventual temp wud gradually be the same over the period of the day or 2 but cmon if the bulbs red hot its belting out more heat yes? also its not a 1000w bulb its 4 x 250w bulbs

I didnt see any 1000 watt cfls just the regular 250 envirolight bulbs in sets of 4 at high prices?? Are you growing in a small box? I just never have heat issues really with my HID lights unless running like 4000 watts or more in a small room. Youever consider a simple cheap cool tube for your 1000 watter? You can touch the tube while bulbs has been running with bare hand and almost not heat is felt and those would have cost about $70-80 usd and gave you better results with same electricity and cooler temps

side note I see some have thier icq and aim or msn messenger links here. I hope that you guys thought that through and didnt register those accounts with real names info or email accounts that would link you directly back to your machine or house? Just was thinking as most people have real info on those accounts which would exspose your real identity to anyone who decided to just clcik on them

FilthyFletch said:

I didnt see any 1000 watt cfls just the regular 250 envirolight bulbs in sets of 4 at high prices?? Are you growing in a small box? I just never have heat issues really with my HID lights unless running like 4000 watts or more in a small room. Youever consider a simple cheap cool tube for your 1000 watter? You can touch the tube while bulbs has been running with bare hand and almost not heat is felt and those would have cost about $70-80 usd and gave you better results with same electricity and cooler temps

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i do think its expensive i managed to get for 181 quid in the end still high i know but the reflector is excellent build quality with vents above the bulbs has 1 yr guarantee on bulbs and reflector and is a unique product that i havent seen anyone use yet, and hope it will bang out some gd yields on short plants. over in the uk average price 4 bulbs are 30 quid so thats 120 so i payed 60 for a 1m x 700mm reflector its not that bad, and if it grows fat yielders then it will pay for itself lol the plan is for autoflowering strains so light will penetrate all the way through to bottom????

so you have this unit already can you show a picture or describe where the cord comes out i think Ill build one this week and see what it costs to make a 4 light unit. The bulbs they sold are they larger mogul version or the standard socket version as i know they make both sizes..Thanks

2 mins m8 i will take pic 4 ya, maybe u can make sum money ya self i want a cut 4 the idea though ,lol

lol I tend to like to make things I think are over priced. i have shown all my aero setups, started my BC bloom box killer, made large reflectors, and most recently figured out how to make the ebb n grow control buckets so i can use that for lot less then they sell them for lol this would just be another thing for my collection. Should be very simple little sheet metal in the break little plasma cuttinga dn bit of mig welding and high temp enmal few sockets and a cord.Im guessing under $50 to build

man stuffs so cheap over there to buy. it wud cost more likr 50 quid over ya to gt that shit together jus a precursor for ya at mo petty is 1.09 per litre thats bout 2 dollars 20 cents its wrong will upload pics now

here ya go bud i got all relevant bits i think ie corners plug vents rivets etc ther is also behind each of the 2 bulbs a small box maybe there jus to conceal wiring but thought id let ya know not sure how much shipping wud be though if u was thinking of hitting us ova ya . gd luck m8 i reckon this unit is gunna kick ass sea of green wit autoflowering bring it on

also fittings are called e40 if that helps