110v VS 220v

Do u guys even know how to figure how many kilowatts ur house is using. U have to figure the amps for every appliance, some appliances at 240 some at 120 but it doesn't matter ur just figuring the amps. Add all the amps together, the 2nd part of the math formula, u have to figure ur kilowatt usage. Add all the amps multiply by 240 ( every residential meter is 240, the majority unless a mansion our something), then divide by 1000 this is ur kilowatts for that 1 hr. Now u know ur homes kilowatt usage for that hour. To get the whole day u could.multiply by 24 but most likely all these appliances won't pull the same amperage over a 24 hour period. Appliance like hot water heater and a/c don't run constantly so if these appliances where on when u did ur math then u can expect ur kilowatt usage to be lower than the math u just figured.

polyarcturus said:

im done. your just fucking stupid and pathetic at this trolling shit im not gonna sit here and explain a house electricity. 1000w is 1000w no matter what voltage. 120v is drawn from 240v if your drawing 10 amp on the houses line this means your drawing 10 amps from one "pole" of your 240v main elec, which can be divided into 2 poles both at 120v. if you are drawing 1000w from 240v this mean 5amp on each 120v pole.

YOU CAN NOT CHANGE THE FACTS 120 VOLT DOES NOT MAIGCALLY CHANGE INTO 240 VOLT

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When did u get ur journeyman's license?

Vonkins said:

Math has to be done at the appliance and at the meter. I will say this'd one more time. At the appliance to find ur amps, then at the meter to get kilowatts.

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Von you mix volts/amps/watts/ohms law equations up more than Courtney Love mixes booze and meds and she makes more sense than you too! If you're not burning you're not learning! You post like a narrowback with a napolean complex. Someone in your local should question your ticket and e-board your ass for being such a dumbshit. Not a one of us howling about how wrong and incorrect you are is a bonafide sparky yet we're all correct and you remain sorely and blindly wrong. FYI, utility meters measure power, watts, thru 120 volt sensing coils and ct's on form 2s residential meters. That dumb meter knows how many amps are flowing on each 120 leg and doesn't give a shit if the loads using 120 or 240, its seeing amps and senses the voltage, hence power, watts.

i dont got no license nor do i claim to. though everything i learned came legitimate web sources or a licensed electrician that used to be on here.

but since there are articles already written on the subject....
http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/static/articles/1006_eltrc.asp

I know exactly how utility meter work. I use to work for s major utility company. For 6 yrs. Fuck it, I give up.*

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If I were that bad at my job then I wouldn't be making 3 grand a week. Do u?

Might i just point out that in NA over 3/4ths of the buildings have mostly 120v outlets because MOST every household electronic uses NEMA1-15 plugs and 240v is used for bigger appliances with NEMA 5-20 plugs, most households use 120v circuits because mostly everyone doesnt run 15000ws+ and its unneeded to have 240vs, which mignt i add would cost alot more in copper. You dont get a cheaper power bill, you get the ability to have more appliances running off that circuit.

get this, most 120v lines are 15a's with a max of 1800ws until the breaker flips, and most 240v are 30a's with a max of 7200w, now im no electrician but regardless of the wattage on a 120v/240v line you are still paying the same, the only thing changing is the fact you can run more appliances without flipping the breaker compared to a 120v 15a line and that your lines run cooler.

Stupid for thinking that a bigger line runs cheaper...

Vonkins said:

I know exactly how utility meter work. I use to work for s major utility company. For 6 yrs. Fuck it, I give up.*

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please do.

Vonkins said:

If I were that bad at my job then I wouldn't be making 3 grand a week. Do u?

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if i was making 3g i would not be on RIU as much as i am but i know your not pulling that lol cause your right here with me.

silly troll, what you are doing is known as a FAIL. lol

Vonkins said:

Math has to be done in 2 places. At the appliance to get amps used by the appliance. Then at the meter to figure ur kilowatts. Ur electricity bill is based off kilowatt hours so u would have to figure out how long the appliance runs, now just multiply kilowatts by hours and their u go kilowatt hours. I will bet my freaking house on this. Just call any electrician u know and he will tell u. I can tell none of u are electricians cause if u were u would know the difference. I'm at work now and me and my buddies are dying laughing at this. We are all very skilled electricians with about a century of experience between the 5 of us. We are dying laughing right now.

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really sorry to hear you will soon be homeless. god damn government workers. another perfect example of why this country is in trouble is having idiots like you on the payroll.

Vonkins said:

You guys are such morons. Is it that hard to figure out. Ur oven is 1000 watt oven at 120 volts u pulls 8.3333 amps. OK now apply 240 to that same oven, now ur using 4.166 amps. Now ur on a 240 volt system let's figure out our kilowatts used at 120 verses 240. Ur kilowatts are determined at the meter and not the appliance. Ur meter is based off 240 volts so let's do the math. 240 volts ×8.333 amps÷ 1000 =2 kilowatt. Now let try the same 240 volts cause that what the meter is on × 4.166 amps÷ 1000 = 1. I don't understand how u guys can figure this out. By the way I have a govt job and I just pulled in 2900$ for 1 week. Damn good pay for a shitty electrician. Now if this appliance ran for 24 hours at 120 volts that would be 48 kilowatt hours that day. Now at 240 volts 24 hours would be 24 kilowatt hours. Damn simple math. Just pm me. I will show u apprentices how to be a JW.

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Cool story bro.

Please ignore Vonkins.

Ok im not an electrician but i know how to wire up 220 ect...

If i run 220 line from 2 30amp breakers than how many 1kw lights would i be able to plug into that? Also do they sell strips to plug multiple 220v plugs into it?

Right now i have a 30amp with 10guage wire powering 2 of my 1kw lights on 110v. When i get more lighting i wanna use 220v to not have mulitple wires coming from the box.

a 30a 240v circuit should easily handle 4 1000w lights. try not to use more than 75% of the allowed load.

I'd check out light controllers. Get one with a built in timer. Two hots from a 30 amp dual pole will give the light controller the 240v it needs. 4000 watts, bam!

Sencha said:

I'd check out light controllers. Get one with a built in timer. Two hots from a 30 amp dual pole will give the light controller the 240v it needs. 4000 watts, bam!

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or build your own for less than $50-60

Vonkins said:

First of all u need to talk to an electrician. Wow that's what I do for a living. At 220 volts ur amperage will be lower causing ur bill to be lower. Simple ohms law. Voltage and amperage are inversely proportional. So voltage go up amps go down and vice versa. Lower amps means lower power usage and lower bill. Can I get a + rep please.

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Agreed. Your electric company can answer the question and their reply would agree with Vonkins for the doubters.

I ran the cost about a month ago. It would have been ~$80.

I opted to buy one for $122. I didn't get one with a timer but I wish I had.

ww.bghydro.com/BGH/static/articles/1006_eltrc.asp

guys this is broken down so even a monkey can get it. hotrod im surprised at you, but the other guy we will probably hear about when he fries himself.