16’x16’x10’ grow room design

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Lordhooha

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Yes I have I’ve grown for 13 years and I did 10x10 before but mainly a outdoor grower. And in a 16x16 room ain’t no way it require 16 lights
Your area Is 256 sqft 16 scorpions will provide 37.5 watts per sqft. I would add 2 more lights at least. For 16 lights you'll need 32 k of cooling alone probably closer to 5 tons once dehumidifiers, fans and everything else are added. For that space depending on plant count I'd put an Aden 320v1 in for dehumidifier a 100lbs co2 bottle with reg and trolmaster to control everything. Goal for the room would depend on genetics but I shoot for a minimum of 3/4# a plant.
 

Gullygsg

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Nice but they were pulled early let them finish properly. Also what kind of power service you planning? You'll need at least 200amps to be safe and for shit later.
all those plant shots wasn’t finish I can’t dig up the finish ones but those was around 40 days in
 

Gullygsg

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Your area Is 256 sqft 16 scorpions will provide 37.5 watts per sqft. I would add 2 more lights at least. For 16 lights you'll need 32 k of cooling alone probably closer to 5 tons once dehumidifiers, fans and everything else are added. For that space depending on plant count I'd put an Aden 320v1 in for dehumidifier a 100lbs co2 bottle with reg and trolmaster to control everything. Goal for the room would depend on genetics but I shoot for a minimum of 3/4# a plant.
Thanks I was thinking. 12 lights but the consensus is saying 16 lights. I’m still thinking maybe 16 1000 watt gavita is over kill maybe with led I’ll need 16 lights but I’ll take all suggestions ans most definitely 200 amps just for that room only
 

Lordhooha

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Thanks I was thinking. 12 lights but the consensus is saying 16 lights. I’m still thinking maybe 16 1000 watt gavita is over kill maybe with led I’ll need 16 lights but I’ll take all suggestions ans most definitely 200 amps just for that room only
I would do 18 1000 watts or 18 of the scorpions. Both put out the same light just one uses less wattage. Thus less of a cooling load. You get a better spectrum with led and better yield and quality. I shit canned my 32 gavitas a few years ago. Never again. I'd honestly tell you make sure you run 220v for everything minus fans and controllers. For reference here one of my rooms in the new building I'm doing now. In that 416 sqft space I'm putting 14 fohse ai3's in there. They're 1500 watts each giving me.right at 50 watts a sqft. Bigger room then yours but these ai3's are monsters and really pull 1500+ watts. They throw down 4200 umoles as well which insane.
 

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Gullygsg

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I would do 18 1000 watts or 18 of the scorpions. Both put out the same light just one uses less wattage. Thus less of a cooling load. You get a better spectrum with led and better yield and quality. I shit canned my 32 gavitas a few years ago. Never again. I'd honestly tell you make sure you run 220v for everything minus fans and controllers. For reference here one of my rooms in the new building I'm doing now. In that 416 sqft space I'm putting 14 fohse ai3's in there. They're 1500 watts each giving me.right at 50 watts a sqft. Bigger room then yours but these ai3's are monsters and really pull 1500+ watts. They throw down 4200 umoles as well which insane.
You would do 18 lights in a 16x16 room? Lol I have to re-evaluate my budget if that’s the case and I was leaning to cmh or led for the reason you stated which is the heat of the room
 

Lordhooha

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You would do 18 lights in a 16x16 room? Lol I have to re-evaluate my budget if that’s the case and I was leaning to cmh or led for the reason you stated which is the heat of the room
I don't screw with bulbs you have to change them every 2 grows. That alone is reason enough to go led. Less consumables overall lower operating costs.yes I would of the scorpions or any true 600-650 watt light.
 

xox

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thats a big budget, if you dont have the cash for everything id prioritize the a/c and the dehumidifiers size the ac and the dehu for if you had that many lights with that amount of plant mass in the room and go from there. you can always pickup more lights with the cash after the first harvest.
 

Gullygsg

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thats a big budget, if you dont have the cash for everything id prioritize the a/c and the dehumidifiers size the ac and the dehu for if you had that many lights with that amount of plant mass in the room and go from there. you can always pickup more lights with the cash after the first harvest.
I have a budget but I also have the cash to do the complete project at once
 

jondamon

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I don't screw with bulbs you have to change them every 2 grows. That alone is reason enough to go led. Less consumables overall lower operating costs.yes I would of the scorpions or any true 600-650 watt light.
My argument for that is this.

how long does LED panel last? 10 years?

For me to buy a decent LED in the U.K. for my space. Circa £500

I use a 400w now and use 2 bulbs a year. £15 each. £30 a year.

10 years of bulbs is £300.

no brainer Imo

Now if you’re dealing with high temps 80% of the year then LED is the way to go.

For me with my setup I would have to add additional heat for the LED’s to grow effectively costing me more in running costs than utilising HPS.

not bashing or hating on LED but it’s like electric cars.

they pollute more than gas cars during the manufacturing and the batteries than the gas cars make lol.
 

Lordhooha

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My argument for that is this.

how long does LED panel last? 10 years?

For me to buy a decent LED in the U.K. for my space. Circa £500

I use a 400w now and use 2 bulbs a year. £15 each. £30 a year.

10 years of bulbs is £300.

no brainer Imo

Now if you’re dealing with high temps 80% of the year then LED is the way to go.

For me with my setup I would have to add additional heat for the LED’s to grow effectively costing me more in running costs than utilising HPS.

not bashing or hating on LED but it’s like electric cars.

they pollute more than gas cars during the manufacturing and the batteries than the gas cars make lol.
Most de 1000 watt bulbs are 100 to 120 each added to that you should be changing them every two grows so in my case every 2-3 months. For the amount of lights I run 14 per room atm becomes costly. Even in a home setting were talking alot depending on what you grow. Now as soon as you fire that bulb up and it burns in after a few days to a month depending on brand the umols they put out decrease quickly. Where as leds don't well past the 10yr mark. Yes I have some that are close to that age and still grow well and numbers are right there. As for heating I mean honestly you're going to have to heat or cool something. If they're decent leds they'll still consume 600ish watts and will put off that much heat at the very least. Plus you can run leds warmer so less cooling load to deal with.
 

jondamon

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Most de 1000 watt bulbs are 100 to 120 each added to that you should be changing them every two grows so in my case every 2-3 months. For the amount of lights I run 14 per room atm becomes costly. Even in a home setting were talking alot depending on what you grow. Now as soon as you fire that bulb up and it burns in after a few days to a month depending on brand the umols they put out decrease quickly. Where as leds don't well past the 10yr mark. Yes I have some that are close to that age and still grow well and numbers are right there. As for heating I mean honestly you're going to have to heat or cool something. If they're decent leds they'll still consume 600ish watts and will put off that much heat at the very least. Plus you can run leds warmer so less cooling load to deal with.
I have zero cooling required as I live in the U.K. lol.

AC here are reserved for company offices.


very few domestic residences have AC we use water filled central heating systems.

the most we get is 2 weeks of 27-32C weather during July/August.

90% of the time it’s cool and raining lol.

like I said I’m not bashing LED I think the technology is great.

but while it’s still pretty expensive to replace the HID setup I couldn’t overcome the cost when what I’ve got is working just fine for my needs.

bongsmilie
 

jondamon

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Most de 1000 watt bulbs are 100 to 120 each added to that you should be changing them every two grows so in my case every 2-3 months. For the amount of lights I run 14 per room atm becomes costly. Even in a home setting were talking alot depending on what you grow. Now as soon as you fire that bulb up and it burns in after a few days to a month depending on brand the umols they put out decrease quickly. Where as leds don't well past the 10yr mark. Yes I have some that are close to that age and still grow well and numbers are right there. As for heating I mean honestly you're going to have to heat or cool something. If they're decent leds they'll still consume 600ish watts and will put off that much heat at the very least. Plus you can run leds warmer so less cooling load to deal with.
In your scenario I can totally see the benefit with multiple lights and the amount of bulbs you use.
 

Lordhooha

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In your scenario I can totally see the benefit with multiple lights and the amount of bulbs you use.
True I look at several factors even at home. My biggest is the bulbs loosing their punch as quickly as they do. Michigan was the same no one really had ac except for myself lol it didn't get warm enough most of the time then it wascokd as hell and snowing.
 

PizzaBob

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I’m building a 16 x 16 grow room. I already have an idea how I’m going to set the room up but would like some suggestions on what others think.

1. How much lights
2. What brand of lights
3. What size a/c
4. What size dehumidifier
5. Co2
6. And what’s the best automated temperature control
7. And last but not least what would be your goal yield in a room this size
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Hiddengems

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I was talking about the dried bud. I could see it still had time left.
Not everyone wants sleep weed. All strains are different. I have a super fast sour d/sensi star cross that has to be pulled before it starts getting many amber trichs.

Take it another week or two it loses smell, and the buzz isn't even a high it's just straight tired.

Even then an extra week or two in each cycle adds little to the product in terms of weight, and ends up costing you a full cycle every year.
 
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