phenix white
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Trying to do it right !...
2 weeks and 2 days into flowering. yellowing-yellow mid bottom leaves???
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phenix white
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you are right i think..keen attention to detasil my friend!..ok so no bloom food just give it the fish emulsion and some micro/iron nutes?
skunkushybrid01
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I would yeah.
she needs nitrogen and it doesn't look like pH lock out to me, pH lock out will cause other symptoms too. Once you get below pH 4.0 NPK are all locked out.. the symptoms would be far more severe with pH in my opinion. Not to mention how rare actual pH problems are in soil.
she needs nitrogen and it doesn't look like pH lock out to me, pH lock out will cause other symptoms too. Once you get below pH 4.0 NPK are all locked out.. the symptoms would be far more severe with pH in my opinion. Not to mention how rare actual pH problems are in soil.
phenix white
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ok i feed her a rich fish emulsion/water w/dash of iron /micros...and i tested the water at the bottom in my runoff its ph came out between 7.5 and 7.8 last time i waterd it was 6.8!!! does the runoff water the ph in it matter is it the true ph of the soil?
skunkushybrid01
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No it isn't a true reflection... but it does show that you have very little salt build up at the bottom of the pot. a lot of the salts will fall to the bottom during the feeds, so when you do run off it could be acidic naturally but not be a good guide on the true pH of the medium as a whole.
Your run off is fine, shows the plants are eating everything you've give them. i'm sure this feed you've given will kick some life into her. you should see a difference in a couple of days. maybe even sooner.
Your run off is fine, shows the plants are eating everything you've give them. i'm sure this feed you've given will kick some life into her. you should see a difference in a couple of days. maybe even sooner.
SmokesLikeBob
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Max is right, you should check your water ph every feeding, try and keep it around 6.3-6.5
Stay@homeGROWER
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The yellowing of leaves is normal in flowering cycle, you don't want the nitrogen at this point, you want the plant to start to die. You are using to much bloom at this time and sugar is a early too. i would use like a 0-6-5 until the 6th week then use the heavy stuff.
RemeberMe
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They are a bit young in the flower stage to expect them to drop the N. You'll see that later when the big fan leaves go completely yellow and die. Were the plants ever a nice dark green? Maybe you've been running low N all a long and now with that new mix it's really low. But don't push the feeding, you really don't want to over water them (drooping in the middle of the leaf shows your over watering them a bit). If that's an indica I've found they like bottom feeding (feeding in the bottom catch bowl. Sativas like normal top feeding more). I'd say to folair (sp?) feed them but that can cause other problems unless they have excellent ventilation.
phenix white
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Your right I was real lite with the nitrogen with the veg. during the grow. I think its a hybrid indica/sativa, so am I watering too much? They were never real dark green, kind of a lite lime gren, I do have excellent ventilation.
RemeberMe
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So they probably needed a lot of N during the stretch period and robbed it from all over. Give it a one time boost of N of around 20 next feeding and see how much that helps. Sativas never get as dark shinny green as indica but they should still have been much darker. It is evident by the leaves that you have over watered in the past but not sure if you still are. Tops looks fine but just a few rows down where the bigger leaves are show signs of over watering.
phenix white
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ok i will..ill give it that
phenix white
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whata mean by over watering?i water a gallon evry 3-4 days
RemeberMe
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If leaves droop or curl in the middle it's a sign the plant is getting too much water. There are signs of that here and there. A gallon might be a bit much so I'd cut it back to just 3 quarts in the same time span. Then, if the leaves start drooping at the stem/stalk (a sign of under watering) I would water a little more or a day earlier. I've found it's better to slightly under water than to over water.
phenix white
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ok... i will listen to ya
skunkushybrid01
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some excellent advice there, a voice of experience.
when i used to grow in soil, before every watering i'd pick up the pots and lightly tap them on the floor. I was shown this method by a long time grower, as I was lucky enough to have people help me on my first grows, and he told me to do it because when we water soil can become compacted in certain parts. Causes problems with root mobility and nutrient transport in that part of the pot. A few light taps on the floor helps to loosen any parts that may be compacted.
If you water without tapping the pots, those compacted parts will become waterlogged and suffocate that part of the root system... may not affect the plant over all, as plants actually have the capability to close down entire sections of the root system if they want to. well, not if they want to, i imagine there is a trigger.
anyway... probably too much info... and the last time i tried to tell somebody to lightly tap their pots on the floor on a forum the other members went crazy, talking about plant stress, shock, hermaphrodites, all kinds of crazy shit. Not long afterwards I was banned for practising witchcraft.
when i used to grow in soil, before every watering i'd pick up the pots and lightly tap them on the floor. I was shown this method by a long time grower, as I was lucky enough to have people help me on my first grows, and he told me to do it because when we water soil can become compacted in certain parts. Causes problems with root mobility and nutrient transport in that part of the pot. A few light taps on the floor helps to loosen any parts that may be compacted.
If you water without tapping the pots, those compacted parts will become waterlogged and suffocate that part of the root system... may not affect the plant over all, as plants actually have the capability to close down entire sections of the root system if they want to. well, not if they want to, i imagine there is a trigger.
anyway... probably too much info... and the last time i tried to tell somebody to lightly tap their pots on the floor on a forum the other members went crazy, talking about plant stress, shock, hermaphrodites, all kinds of crazy shit. Not long afterwards I was banned for practising witchcraft.
HookdOnChronics
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now THIS guy..... YES! Listen to him, I agree with him! NOT other dude up there!.. lol
phenix white
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ok so when and how much should i water?
phenix white
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so everything else im doing is good? should i stop the mollasess? I do have some good news went today and got a 4-10-6!!!
skunkushybrid01
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molasses is fine... the sugar is eaten by the microbes, a quick fix and encourages them to reproduce etc. also vitamins and hormones are always a good thing.
phenix white
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ok good1 cool so now i'll water 3 qts, every 3-4 days,ill' tap the bootom, i will start the new nutes on sunday 4-10-3