20 something time with this issue. What am I doing wrong?!

dizzyground

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Didnt read every post, but if you gave to much fertilizer, they can lock another nutes out. I wouldnt put any more nutes to try to fix this. Also, where are your fan leaves? :D Some lower leaves didnt need to get plucked imo. Leaves work as nutrient storage too right? I rarely pluck ANY leaves with great results.
 

Southernontariogrower

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Read whole thread, thinking Cu def or phos lockout. If organic, molasses will add some micronutes and carbon but get good stuff not shit sugar. Colbys is good. Worm castings too. The biology will help with issues in the future. Copper and boron are missing in many grows or at minimal amounts so plants dont have much to utilize. Whats your ph? Looks low ld check runoff. Borax is only boron l know of, grocery store sells it in detergents section.
 

tckfui

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I will check the PH runoff next watering... If it survives until then! :shock:
The leaves rapidly faded over the 3 or 4 days and have dried up and become crispy today... but only (mostly) on the side of the buds receiving light.
Looked like the normal fade everyone is after. Just way too fast and too early! Here are some pics. The 2 bud pics are of 2 different colas one of the "green" and one from the crispy side lol
 

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tckfui

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Didnt read every post, but if you gave to much fertilizer, they can lock another nutes out. I wouldnt put any more nutes to try to fix this. Also, where are your fan leaves? :D Some lower leaves didnt need to get plucked imo. Leaves work as nutrient storage too right? I rarely pluck ANY leaves with great results.
I've never plucked fan leaves before but seems everyone does now days so was giving it a shot. Then lost a ton more when PM hit then more when the fried chicken leaves showed up :wall:
Starting to think the whole defoliating thing is a dumb idea. I do like the idea of picking off all the larf sites though!
 

tckfui

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Read whole thread, thinking Cu def or phos lockout. If organic, molasses will add some micronutes and carbon but get good stuff not shit sugar. Colbys is good. Worm castings too. The biology will help with issues in the future. Copper and boron are missing in many grows or at minimal amounts so plants dont have much to utilize. Whats your ph? Looks low ld check runoff. Borax is only boron l know of, grocery store sells it in detergents section.
I have some plantation brand unsulphered black strap I bought for this grow but haven't added any in weeks. Was scared to add anything else at this point as they're mostly dying ‍♂
 

dizzyground

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I've never plucked fan leaves before but seems everyone does now days so was giving it a shot. Then lost a ton more when PM hit then more when the fried chicken leaves showed up :wall:
Starting to think the whole defoliating thing is a dumb idea. I do like the idea of picking off all the larf sites though!
Just do it your way :) Most of times when I see someones grow journal where they plucked all the fan leaves, they just dont fill up the same. Don't worry, its not life or death situation. Larf sites, those low on plant that dont get enough light? I think its beneficial to remove those also!

Back in the day when I grew with vertical bulbs, every big fan leaf that got direct light grew mega sized branch from it, ending up mega cola. Then it looked like fan leaf puts most of its power to the branch that starts from that leaf. The bigger my fan leaves are the happier I am!
This might be the reason that when growing from seeds, you get first leaves wiwth only 1 finger. And every time the branches that start from those leaves get left behind.
 

OneMoreRip

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Ph in 6.8 ph out 6.2
seems like a bit of a swing, meaning medium even (way?), lower than 6.2 (in the 5's) i would guess which is not great. Probably wrong, I would do whatever you can to figure out actual ph of your medium, before doing anything else
 

Budzbuddha

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So you mixed coco with a Super “ soil “ concentrate ?
What could go wrong .

Excessive feed
Trying to ph as soil but using “ concentrate “ ( that is supposed to be used with soil. )
More nutes on top ( cha ching ) another concentrated nute . And Flower Girl ( 1 cup ) instead of tablespoons…..

plus it sounds like you just dump dry nutes on it since you hate mixing liquids.

It is all over the place. Thats why its torched.

Next time - just pick either all coco or all soil.
 

tckfui

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So you mixed coco with a Super “ soil “ concentrate ?
What could go wrong .

Excessive feed
Trying to ph as soil but using “ concentrate “ ( that is supposed to be used with soil. )
More nutes on top ( cha ching ) another concentrated nute . And Flower Girl ( 1 cup ) instead of tablespoons…..

plus it sounds like you just dump dry nutes on it since you hate mixing liquids.

It is all over the place. Thats why its torched.

Next time - just pick either all coco or all soil.
I was following the tutorial on grow weed easy website. No idea of they're a decent website or not.
Followed their instructions on the concentrate and cocoloco mix. The concentrate also recommends cocoloco. I was planning on using this my next run (already have 2 girls Midway through flower with it).
Where I didn't follow any instructions is adding the 1 cup of flower girl (not once but twice!) which was a dumb mistake and yea the chaching which I'm gonna toss.
And for adding the dry nutes I kinda work it in the too but not much. Yes I loath mixing nutes!... though it did get good results lol.
Stop by my grow journal and keep an eye on me make sure I don't get too silly again!
 

tckfui

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seems like a bit of a swing, meaning medium even (way?), lower than 6.2 (in the 5's) i would guess which is not great. Probably wrong, I would do whatever you can to figure out actual ph of your medium, before doing anything else
Not sure I understand what you mean
 

OneMoreRip

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So you mixed coco with a Super “ soil “ concentrate ?
What could go wrong .

Excessive feed
Trying to ph as soil but using “ concentrate “ ( that is supposed to be used with soil. )
More nutes on top ( cha ching ) another concentrated nute .

plus it sounds like you just dump dry nutes on it since you hate mixing liquids.

It is all over the place. Thats why its torched.

Next time - just pick either all coco or all soil.
nothing wrong with using coco in soil mix, good alternative to peat
 

OneMoreRip

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Not sure I understand what you mean
if you are watering with 14ph and it comes out 1ph, what is the ph of the medium? i dont know, so i would do more to figure it out.

ph first most important, needs to be in range or nothing else works
 

Budzbuddha

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nothing wrong with using coco in soil mix, good alternative to peat
This is why pick one medium…. Less confusion on intial grow. Most good soil mixes can carry growth upfront and feed for weeks by itself.

Then as plant exhaust it on its own terms - base soil can be “ recharged “ with either MORE of original soil watered in or by way of simple dry fertilizer scratched into top soil. There is no way a cup worth on one plant is needed. Most of those items you use are unnecessary - cha ching for example.
 

OneMoreRip

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I’d give feeding of liquid kelp, just because that’s what I have, that I believe will get fastest response from plant. and I’d make sure I checked ph of medium, few spots in any pot of plant with problem.

If dry amendment, I think you can mix it in water and get faster response than just scratch in
 
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