20 something time with this issue. What am I doing wrong?!

tckfui said:

Ph in 6.8 ph out 6.2

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for some reason I believe this could mean actual medium may be low (close to high 5's), I could be wrong though. I would dig down a few inches or whatever is takes to get to well saturated medium and gently press ph pen into medium(gently), just enough to get ph reading.

Ive never actually looked into what is cause of leaf curl, I would if I were you looking at those plants. they are still okay i believe but time for them to start getting back to optimum

and if you grow from seeds, i would start some new seeds now if not already, you should have an empty tent in not to long

OneMoreRip said:

for some reason I believe this could mean actual medium may be low (close to high 5's), I could be wrong though. I would dig down a few inches or whatever is takes to get to well saturated medium and gently press ph pen into medium(gently), just enough to get ph reading.

Ive never actually looked into what is cause of leaf curl, I would if I were you looking at those plants. they are still okay i believe but time for them to start getting back to optimum

and if you grow from seeds, i would start some new seeds now if not already, you should have an empty tent in not to long

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Thanks man! I'll buy a soil PH meter. Don't wanna risk damaging my ph tester.
How come liquid kelp? I do remember thinking that stuff was a cure all back in the day lol just wondering your reasoning for it.
I put 1 TBS of dr earths flower girl in a gallon of water to soak for next watering. Though it says the nitrogen it contains is not water soluble.
Yea the limp leaves has me stumped. They were definitely limp from being a bit thirsty this morning but didn't perk up after watering them. Gave the usual half gallon each. Everything I'm looking up online looks totally different. Chalking it up to a watering issue for now

tckfui said:

Thanks man! I'll buy a soil PH meter. Don't wanna risk damaging my ph tester.
How come liquid kelp? I do remember thinking that stuff was a cure all back in the day lol just wondering your reasoning for it.
I put 1 TBS of dr earths flower girl in a gallon of water to soak for next watering. Though it says the nitrogen it contains is not water soluble.
Yea the limp leaves has me stumped. They were definitely limp from being a bit thirsty this morning but didn't perk up after watering them. Gave the usual half gallon each. Everything I'm looking up online looks totally different. Chalking it up to a watering issue for now

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i just use regular ph pen, works better than my bluelab soil tester

OneMoreRip said:

for some reason I believe this could mean actual medium may be low (close to high 5's), I could be wrong though. I would dig down a few inches or whatever is takes to get to well saturated medium and gently press ph pen into medium(gently), just enough to get ph reading.

Ive never actually looked into what is cause of leaf curl, I would if I were you looking at those plants. they are still okay i believe but time for them to start getting back to optimum

and if you grow from seeds, i would start some new seeds now if not already, you should have an empty tent in not to long

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Oh and already got clones started. Was thinking of tossing them and starting some new seeds Wednesday but thinking I should grow this out again to hone in on the feeding schedule.

tckfui said:

Oh and already got clones started. Was thinking of tossing them and starting some new seeds Wednesday but thinking I should grow this out again to hone in on the feeding schedule.

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yes, by no means did i mean scrap current grow

for the kelp, its what i have and never done me wrong, i think a good tea would work too, no experience with that though

limp and curled not the same to me and i see curled

OneMoreRip said:

yes, by no means did i mean scrap current grow

for the kelp, its what i have and never done me wrong

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Haha no I meant tossing the clones. Being new to growing again I bought over 200 seeds with room for two plants wanna run some new genetics! But think I'll run these clones for the learning and tuning.
I think I have a beater ph pen I can try it with. Just stick it in the damp soil?

tckfui said:

Haha no I meant tossing the clones. Being new to growing again I bought over 200 seeds with room for two plants wanna run some new genetics! But think I'll run these clones for the learning and tuning.
I think I have a beater ph pen I can try it with. Just stick it in the damp soil?

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yes, to the the ph in damp soil, if getting a reading, damp enough, if not more damp. I have only done a few times since finding out how bad my bluelab pen is, but every time is works well. just press enough to get reading, few spots, gently. imo

and yes to the you can never have to many seeds.

i ran through all seed banks with 'pick and mix' seeds under 5 bucks or so, got them all, then went for stuff i really wanted that was more expensive. got a couple hudered strains probably, start a seed every week, 12/12 from seed on everything, use males to make more crosses

Maybe letting soil dry a little too much and killing microbes? I would only use plain water, let dry a little less. Next time try some EWC tea.

ea I was letting them get droopy before watering since some people on here thought maybe I was over watering the other girls.
Also my conclusion for the original plants is that PM hit. Overfed which I don't think was my main issue. But I think the few times I sprayed to address the PM the leaves got light burn droplets. Brown crispy dots everywhere there was liquid beading up.
Then after a week I got a dehumidifier and jacked Temps way up (85 from 75) and humidity way down (30 from 70). Think that just dried all the life that was left in the leaves.

But yea think these other ones drooping is from letting them get a bit too dry and perhaps slightly too warm when dry

Some pics of the state of the og plant for record keeping. Also a danger noodle for fun

You can go the whole grow with just the nature supersoil it's that strong. You definitely overfeed big time.

Green Refuge said:

You can go the whole grow with just the nature supersoil it's that strong. You definitely overfeed big time.

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Look at the plants on the previous page. Look starving no?
Also using the autoflower mix so maybe it's a bit short lived for these...

tckfui said:

Look at the plants on the previous page. Look starving no?
Also using the autoflower mix so maybe it's a bit short lived for these...

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Yeah I was referring to the ones on the first page. I used that nature supersoil and it's no joke. Took a plant from a month old all the way to harvest with Nothing but water and supplements.

Green Refuge said:

Yeah I was referring to the ones on the first page. I used that nature supersoil and it's no joke. Took a plant from a month old all the way to harvest with Nothing but water and supplements.

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What soil did you use? Have a grow journal of it I can check out?

tckfui said:

What soil did you use? Have a grow journal of it I can check out?

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I don't have one but I have a few pics. It's the first one from left. It was growing slower than the coco plants but a couple weeks into flower she took off and matched the coco ones. I have another plant that I used supersoil only I'll see if I can dig those pics out.

OneMoreRip said:

i just use regular ph pen, works better than my bluelab soil tester

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Ph around 6.3

tckfui said:

Dang it swore I added pics lol.
I was thinking it was a possible mag deficiency so added the cal mag. At first I was 90% sure it was light burn from the milk spray as the brown dots were where there were beads of water and happened immediately after spraying.
Here's some pics... don't mind the bathtub

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Defo ph or nutrient issue. Not lighting issue. Calibrate your ph pen.

Ph of 6.3 for the soil should be okay right? Not super sure

tckfui said:

Ph of 6.3 for the soil should be okay right? Not super sure

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sounds good to me, using tap around 6.8? Should be near ideal (6.5 from what I know),for soil and that’s what mine is and working good. Got ideal ph from royal queen seeds soil grow guide. I think they said 6-7

Is this still plant with nute burn? Maybe still lot of nutes in medium?

one of my plants in organic got some lower leaves dying when I let it dry to much because I took off watering cord. Just say in case maybe you let medium get to dry. Doubt that’s it for you though but ya never know

Gotta love how the buds always stay good through the tough times