250w HPS Club And Help Guide

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tlhx9

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Hello everyone! Going to attempt to grow for the first time. Just got dont building the frame to my grow box and before i put the side panels and top on i was wondering if i should make it higher. The dimensions are 3'4"w x 2'4"l x 4'h. I am going to grow in soil and was hoping on doing scrog or sog(sog preferably). I have no idea if i will be starting with seeds or clones. I have to find a way of obtaining them first. O ya. I will be using a 250w hps with remote balast for flowering from htg supply.
Is 4' high good enough to fit my light and carbon filter? I know i can fit it in there but will i end up having to raise the light higher than that eventualy?
I want to have passive intake. Will this be overkill with those dimensions? - A GrowBright 4" Inline Fan & Carbon Filter Combo

A suggestion on pot size or any other advice would be great also.
Thanks in advance.
 
georgyboy

georgyboy

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tlhx9 said:
Hello everyone! Going to attempt to grow for the first time. Just got dont building the frame to my grow box and before i put the side panels and top on i was wondering if i should make it higher. The dimensions are 3'4"w x 2'4"l x 4'h. I am going to grow in soil and was hoping on doing scrog or sog(sog preferably). I have no idea if i will be starting with seeds or clones. I have to find a way of obtaining them first. O ya. I will be using a 250w hps with remote balast for flowering from htg supply.
Is 4' high good enough to fit my light and carbon filter? I know i can fit it in there but will i end up having to raise the light higher than that eventualy?
I want to have passive intake. Will this be overkill with those dimensions? - A GrowBright 4" Inline Fan & Carbon Filter Combo

A suggestion on pot size or any other advice would be great also.
Thanks in advance.
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When considering the height of your box, take into account everything that consumes vertical space. From the top down you have the top of the box, then you most likely have your light hangers (3") you have your light (8") you need at least 6-12" of empty space between the bulb and the top of the plants, then you have to set a height limit for you plants (30") and then the height of your planting container which can be anywhere from 6-12". It's better to over estimate than to underestimate. You don't have a lot of width or depth either, which will make fitting an inline fan and a carbon filter in there also very tight. If you stick to a scrog you can probably make it work. Personally I would be a little more comfortable with 5'. Another way to save space inside the box is to put your light on top of the box instead of inside the box. Keep you ballast out of the box and it will help with heat. You can set your fan and filter ouside of the box and connect it to the exhaust hole with ducting. By removing all the equipment from within the box, you will have a lot more space to dedicate to growing plants. As long as this isn't a "stealth box" this shouldn't be too much of a problem, and you won't have to alter you frame which is already constructed. One last note, if you choose to place the light on top of the box, shining through a cut out in the top, you will want to make sure you can easily raise and lower your plants to keep them within that sweet spot of 8" away from the light. These are all just ideas and my opinions, many people grow weed in much smaller boxes. I grew my first few plants in 2 styrofoam coolers stacked on top of one another, but I was using pc fans and cfls. The key is to match the size of your growing area with the space requirement of your equipment and the size and number of plants you plan on growing. Your pot size will depend on the growing style and number of plants you run. For a scrog in that size box I would go 3-5 gallons, and for a sog style I would try a bunch of plants in either 2L-1Gallon containers. Check my journal in my sig to see what you can get out of less than a gallon container and a 250w hps.
 
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tlhx9

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georgyboy said:
When considering the height of your box, take into account everything that consumes vertical space. From the top down you have the top of the box, then you most likely have your light hangers (3") you have your light (8") you need at least 6-12" of empty space between the bulb and the top of the plants, then you have to set a height limit for you plants (30") and then the height of your planting container which can be anywhere from 6-12". It's better to over estimate than to underestimate. You don't have a lot of width or depth either, which will make fitting an inline fan and a carbon filter in there also very tight. If you stick to a scrog you can probably make it work. Personally I would be a little more comfortable with 5'. Another way to save space inside the box is to put your light on top of the box instead of inside the box. Keep you ballast out of the box and it will help with heat. You can set your fan and filter ouside of the box and connect it to the exhaust hole with ducting. By removing all the equipment from within the box, you will have a lot more space to dedicate to growing plants. As long as this isn't a "stealth box" this shouldn't be too much of a problem, and you won't have to alter you frame which is already constructed. One last note, if you choose to place the light on top of the box, shining through a cut out in the top, you will want to make sure you can easily raise and lower your plants to keep them within that sweet spot of 8" away from the light. These are all just ideas and my opinions, many people grow weed in much smaller boxes. I grew my first few plants in 2 styrofoam coolers stacked on top of one another, but I was using pc fans and cfls. The key is to match the size of your growing area with the space requirement of your equipment and the size and number of plants you plan on growing. Your pot size will depend on the growing style and number of plants you run. For a scrog in that size box I would go 3-5 gallons, and for a sog style I would try a bunch of plants in either 2L-1Gallon containers. Check my journal in my sig to see what you can get out of less than a gallon container and a 250w hps.
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Ok. Thanks. I think ill make my box a couple feet higher then. That's exactly why I asked before I completed my box. I just want to do it right. Thanks again
 
brettsog

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just thought i'd throw in a couple pics of where im @.

the first is my 4 top mainlined ak48, i couldnt be bothered to go anymore than that. then i have my amnesia which im not fiddling with, and my white widow clone from my last run and last but not least my ak47 auto. gonna start my own thread when i switch to flower in the next week or so.
 

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Dingus611

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Hey guys, I'm going to be upgrading to a 250w high bay light soon, which I will convert into a grow light by extending the socket from the ballast. If you don't know what a high bay light is, it's a MH only light that are typically use to light warehouses. They are the hanging lights in a costco.. Anyway, I also have a 5" cooltube on the way. I'm growing in a cabinet. Mainlined blue rhino for eight tops. Does anyone know roughly how far the 250w in the cooltube would have to be from the tops? It depends on the ventilation for the cooltube doesn't it? In which case I'm going to duct it to a 110cfm Scythe PC fan and then later upgrade to a inline fan.

She is from clone so mainlining was kind of difficult but she turned out okay. Not all the tops are even but they are within 1" of eachother. 7/8 are growing asymmetrically but one of them is growing symmetrically like from seed! I count the nodes by how many the symmetrical one has, which is currently 5 nodes tall.


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coolguy14788

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so im on the journey to buy some seeds anyone have a reputable place to order seeds from that take prepaid credit cards from places like walgreens or walmart?i will also be researching on here to find my answer just thought id ask first then surf for the answer hoping somone will lend a hand thanks to you all
 
justperception

justperception

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Guys I need some help. First grow, white widow, around week 4, Hesi nutrients
Leaves on one plant have yellow tops, what is that, nutrients burn? What should I do?

Looks a lot better in hd
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All comments appreciated
 
Grazzmon

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Seedlings of the Jamaican Bagseed from my trip last summer,
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giggles26

giggles26

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Quick question for my fellow 250er's. Have any of you grown a white strain before?

The reason I ask is because I have one of my babies that is day 36 in and it looks like it's getting close to done but I haven't ever grown a white strain before and I cant' tell if there are still to many white hairs. I have viewed it under a scope and the trichs are almost all cloudy/milky with a few amber here and there. The breeder says it can be fully mature anywhere from 45-55 days but I have had them go sooner but like I said I haven't ever had this strain so I'm not sure of its characteristics. I was thinking of chopping her next week but just wanted your guys advice.

Sorry if it's drawn out but I'm stoned right now :) On a plus note I had a little sample the other day of my girl and damn :D

Here are some pics to help out.

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giggles26

giggles26

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So I'm guessing none of you have grown a white strain before lol.

Oh nice looking buds ct and grazz. I'm ready for my first girl to be chopped lol.
 
brettsog

brettsog

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i grew white widow my last grow, they can take a long time to fully mature. i chopped early and it was nice but could have been better. WW has been known to go 11-13 weeks
 
cbtbudz

cbtbudz

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too many "white strains". og raskal has a strain called The White.then theres white widow,white rhino, white moonshine....etc all having diff maturity times.as for yours looks like its getting close but still a least a week away.maybe another pic w better lighting?
 
giggles26

giggles26

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cbtbudz said:
too many "white strains". og raskal has a strain called The White.then theres white widow,white rhino, white moonshine....etc all having diff maturity times.as for yours looks like its getting close but still a least a week away.maybe another pic w better lighting?
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That's kind of what I was thinking. I will get a better pic when lights come back on as the girls are sleeping and I don't want disturb them with a bunch of flashes lol.

I planned on chopping here around the 1st of december but just wasn't sure on this strain.

Oh yea its a white label white skunk auto.
 
giggles26

giggles26

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Here you go ct. These pics are a little better shot. I know she's still early but I just am not sure on this strain. I'm thinking of maybe around the first of December but here trichomes are telling me a completely different story.

She is dense as hell and I just want her at her prime but her hairs and trichs are telling me 2 different things.

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Noob187

Noob187

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giggles26 said:
Quick question for my fellow 250er's. Have any of you grown a white strain before? The reason I ask is because I have one of my babies that is day 36 in and it looks like it's getting close to done but I haven't ever grown a white strain before and I cant' tell if there are still to many white hairs. I have viewed it under a scope and the trichs are almost all cloudy/milky with a few amber here and there. The breeder says it can be fully mature anywhere from 45-55 days but I have had them go sooner but like I said I haven't ever had this strain so I'm not sure of its characteristics. I was thinking of chopping her next week but just wanted your guys advice. Sorry if it's drawn out but I'm stoned right now :) On a plus note I had a little sample the other day of my girl and damn :D Here are some pics to help out. View attachment 2413548View attachment 2413550View attachment 2413560View attachment 2413561
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Should definitely wait on her. My first indoor grow was a White Russian and the buds filled out completely before it was "ready" and they weren't as stoney as they could've been. The microscope is deceiving, I usually don't even check trichs out until the hairs have receded back into the buds and mostly changed color. :) Your best bet is waiting no matter what the trichs say if you like the extra yield, taste and potency. White Widow is not very strong even fully matured, premature white widow is like mids IMO. :bigjoint: Unless you like a more mild buzz?
 
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