PJ Diaz
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It's true that when you run multi-strains you are forced to find the happy medium which all plants can deal with, and that it's difficult to optimize for specific strain is such a scenario, but it's doable.
3 days on jack's 5-12-26 and the plants are loving it! Bye bye General Hydroponics forever
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jonnynobody
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That's completely untrue sir. I use the same formula from clone through flower. 1.65 EC. May I suggest you switch to a professional fertilizer like jack's 5-12-26 with epsom salt and calcium nitrate? It sounds like your current fertilizer isn't satisfying your needs.
jonnynobody
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I ran 7 different strains last cycle in my flower room and they all drink from the same reservoir with the same EC. I really think some people can over complicate a wet fart
Running 7 different strains total presently from clone to veg all the way into the flower room. All 1.65 EC jack's 3-2-1. 5.8 PH. Why is this so complicated for y'all?
jonnynobody
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God I'd love to and you're correct, I want to add 2 more small 240w qb's and yank the two 100w cobs out so they can be placed back in the nursery where they were intended to go. I might have to do the mini split before adding more light though. I got the light controller installed after my last flower cycle which was monumental for me. It just provides peace of mind knowing all my lights are controlled by a single timer. Mini split is next. Getting one with a heat pump so I can then remove the electric radiator. After that the dream is to install a natural gas c02 burner and seal the room. Baby steps
jonnynobody
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Here is my reservoir setup. 3 32 gallon brute cans connected to my RO unit output via line splitters. I keep 2 mixed with jacks 5-12-26, epsom salt, and calcium nitrate at the recommended ratios diluted to 1.65 EC. Some go as low as 1.3 EC start to finish. 1.65 is right for my needs. I may experiment with 1.5 next. The 3rd reservoir is my control res. Plain RO water. This is for my soil plants and diluting my Jack's reservoirs to 1.65 EC. The 4th trash can is empty on a rolling dolly. I fill that with how much I need on watering days either via 5 gallon bucket or pump and hose. Just depends what kind of day in having fill 'er up and roll out baby! Of course jacks is so stable once the PH is set you need not check it again. It won't move. Goddam, isn't this just stupid easy with Jack's? I sure think so
fill 'er up and roll out baby! Of course jacks is so stable once the PH is set you need not check it again. It won't move. Goddam, isn't this just stupid easy with Jack's? I sure think so 
Failmore
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I'm taking about jacks. I use the tap formula. Talking about their bloom and finish. I am not able to use it because only 1 plant will be in that area at a time potentially.
jonnynobody
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I completely misunderstood. Sorry bout that sir. Finish and bloom formula are not needed. That's just the good folks at Peters joining in on the capitalistic money grab in the cannabis industry. Every other cannabis fertilizer company does it and Peters is just trying to give the end user what they want while making some money at the same time. They are unnecessary products and for the short duration each is used would potentially have a marginal observable effect if any at all. I love the JR Peters company but let me be clear: they're just keeping up with the Jones's and while those products won't hurt your plants you don't need them either
(Hint....the Jones's being the other cannabis fertilizer companies)
PJ Diaz
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When I run multi-strains I will often check the runoff of different strains, and have noticed that it can fluctuate quite a bit between strains. As an example, when I run Slurricane and Wedding Cake together, I find that Wedding Cake gobbles up the nutes, while Slurricane gets fussy when pushed too hard. So, I try to grow strains with similar nutritional needs in the same cycle.I ran 7 different strains last cycle in my flower room and they all drink from the same reservoir with the same EC. I really think some people can over complicate a wet fart
Running 7 different strains total presently from clone to veg all the way into the flower room. All 1.65 EC jack's 3-2-1. 5.8 PH. Why is this so complicated for y'all?
jonnynobody
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Great strains you're running there! What does each smell like? I've heard those names mentioned a lot in the last year. Must be some good smoke
I will say doing water to waste buckets allows me more flexibility that other systems may not have. I hand water. No automation. I can visually tell by how much run off is produced in each 5 gallon bucket from the 1 gallon of solution I add. This tells me which girls / strains are drinking more than others.
For instance I have 7 girls of 9 in the flower room that need watered daily. Of those 7 that need water daily 3 need it twice per day. This exact scenario is why I am vehemently against automation. You simply don't know your plants as well and cannot provide targeted care. All you know is the flood timer goes on and off. Some may be under watered while others may be receiving too much. Just say no to automation
Failmore
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Yup. Agree with thatI completely misunderstood. Sorry bout that sir. Finish and bloom formula are not needed. That's just the good folks at Peters joining in on the capitalistic money grab in the cannabis industry. Every other cannabis fertilizer company does it and Peters is just trying to give the end user what they want while making some money at the same time. They are unnecessary products and for the short duration each is used would potentially have a marginal observable effect if any at all. I love the JR Peters company but let me be clear: they're just keeping up with the Jones's and while those products won't hurt your plants you don't need them either
(Hint....the Jones's being the other cannabis fertilizer companies)
PJ Diaz
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I love automation. I'm not the greatest at describing smells, but Slurricane is like grape-gas, but it also depends on if you pull it at 8-weeks or 10. Wedding Cake is more like TK or OG flavor to me, with a vanilla/lemon hint on the back end. I just got GG4 back, so running that with Super Lemon Haze and Wedding Cake now. Dosido and Runtz are up next..Great strains you're running there! What does each smell like? I've heard those names mentioned a lot in the last year. Must be some good smoke
I will say doing water to waste buckets allows me more flexibility that other systems may not have. I hand water. No automation. I can visually tell by how much run off is produced in each 5 gallon bucket from the 1 gallon of solution I add. This tells me which girls / strains are drinking more than others.
For instance I have 7 girls of 9 in the flower room that need watered daily. Of those 7 that need water daily 3 need it twice per day. This exact scenario is why I am vehemently against automation. You simply don't know your plants as well and cannot provide targeted care. All you know is the flood timer goes on and off. Some may be under watered while others may be receiving too much. Just say no to automation
jonnynobody
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Well shit man you have an eye for good genetics. Congrats on getting gg4 back. I let it go a year and a half ago and I've been upset ever since. I just got my feminized 7 pack from herbies last week. She's back
Vanilla/lemon sounds like a very interesting combination. I love it. I hate automation, because I'm "that guy" that would just end up flooding his basement. And my wife bitches enough already about how much time I spend down there Automation in the right hands is very convenient.
ttystikk
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I ran a similar dry nutrient product from a Colorado local company called hydro gardens. I didn't need to change the ratios much between veg and bloom but it was stupid easy to do it; I just juggled ratios a bit and added some MKP. DONE.I ran 7 different strains last cycle in my flower room and they all drink from the same reservoir with the same EC. I really think some people can over complicate a wet fart
Running 7 different strains total presently from clone to veg all the way into the flower room. All 1.65 EC jack's 3-2-1. 5.8 PH. Why is this so complicated for y'all?
Motherfuckers at the hydro store couldn't sell me a water bottle for fuckin' free anymore.
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ttystikk
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www.hydro-gardens.com
They have a cannabis specific dry nutrient mix they sell to dispensaries, it's 4-20-39 with lots of micros. As usual, add calcium nitrate and epsom salt for a complete nutrient.
They have a cannabis specific dry nutrient mix they sell to dispensaries, it's 4-20-39 with lots of micros. As usual, add calcium nitrate and epsom salt for a complete nutrient.
dgarcad
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Sounds fire. Mind if I ask where the genetics are from??
PJ Diaz
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I got mine all as cuts from either Purple City Genetics or Dark Heart Nursery. Wedding Cake is the jbeezy cut, Slurricane is Cowboy's cut, GG4 is Josey's, SLH is Franco's, Dosido is the "norcal cut", Runtz is the Nick Runtz cut. It's great to be able to get these cuts out in Cali for $20 a pop. There are tons of other cuts I'd like to try too, but only have so much time and space. If anything I'm trying to eliminate cuts from my garden.
ttystikk
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Damn, wish I could get my mitts on some of that.
rkymtnman
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those trashcans made me chuckle. a dude around here a few yrs ago was selling his rdwc setup on craigslist: it had 8 of those 55 gal trashcans. lol. could you imagine how big those plants were? one harvest and i'd be good for a few years. lol.Here is my reservoir setup. 3 32 gallon brute cans connected to my RO unit output via line splitters. I keep 2 mixed with jacks 5-12-26, epsom salt, and calcium nitrate at the recommended ratios diluted to 1.65 EC. Some go as low as 1.3 EC start to finish. 1.65 is right for my needs. I may experiment with 1.5 next. The 3rd reservoir is my control res. Plain RO water. This is for my soil plants and diluting my Jack's reservoirs to 1.65 EC. The 4th trash can is empty on a rolling dolly. I fill that with how much I need on watering days either via 5 gallon bucket or pump and hose. Just depends what kind of day in having
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Very nice plants, How long do you usually veg the ones in the tent for?