bird mcbride
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It's nice to see someone getting it correct and heading down the correct path
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4x4 Ebb n Flow White Russian SoG Style
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phuzy
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Thanks bird! I give credit to this site and all the helpful peopleIt's nice to see someone getting it correct and heading down the correct path
lahadaextranjera
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Please keep loading pics - I can't wait to see how these turn out.
I have White Russian Mums and also Double Dutch (both Serious Seeds). Can't wait to see the differences between them.
Your set up looks great btw !
Good luck !
I have White Russian Mums and also Double Dutch (both Serious Seeds). Can't wait to see the differences between them.
Your set up looks great btw !
Good luck !
phuzy
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Thanks, its going well so far. Only issue so far is algae on my pots and in my res. Also some of the tips are a little burned but nothing serious I guess! And I changed the res a couple days ago and cleaned it spotless and the bottom had a little slime. I'm trying to clean it off the pots but its so hard to catch it!
Light just turned on so here's another update.
Light just turned on so here's another update.
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hellraizer30
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2nd that phuzy.......!!
Favre2Harvin
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They are looking pretty healthy man. 
F2H.
F2H.
phuzy
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Thanks! What do you mean water cooled? Your lights??i'm onboard too, nice grow man. i like the water cooled, i have done my own White russian's, and i run w/ water..it'll be interesting to see how they turn. looking good
Thanks bro!looking good man
Thanks again!
Everything is store bought. I have a botanicare 40 gallon res and a botanicare 4x4 tray. Expensive plastic but it's sturdy and meant for growing so I figured it was worth the investment.
I would LOVE 29g a plant! I am hoping for anything I can get right about now. Im hoping at least 16 oz's total though.
Thanks they are doing fine but I don't know if I'm doing everything right because some of the tips are curling way down and some are burned. But it's only on 5 plants. These ph swings are fucking me up!They are looking pretty healthy man.
phuzy
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Heres my three week update.
Day 1 in the tray and I just took this for day 21
I definitely thought they would grow a little faster but I think they were shocked from the transplant because the first week growth was minimal. Also, I threw them on 18/6 light cycle instantly when they went in the tray.. Should I have kept them on 24 hour light cycle for the first week?
Oh yeah, they're still on a flood cycle of every two hours for 10 times a day. Is this fine?
Day 1 in the tray and I just took this for day 21
I definitely thought they would grow a little faster but I think they were shocked from the transplant because the first week growth was minimal. Also, I threw them on 18/6 light cycle instantly when they went in the tray.. Should I have kept them on 24 hour light cycle for the first week?
Oh yeah, they're still on a flood cycle of every two hours for 10 times a day. Is this fine?
cerberus
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i ran white russian's in a hydro ebb n flo bucket system and yeah i use water to cool my room via heat transfer (radiators).
sometimes if they get beat up coming out of the cloner and having the rock poored onto them, it beats them up pretty bad.. I have found as little water as a ican get away wth promote the best growth but i'd love to hear another persona thoughts..
good work meng
sometimes if they get beat up coming out of the cloner and having the rock poored onto them, it beats them up pretty bad.. I have found as little water as a ican get away wth promote the best growth but i'd love to hear another persona thoughts..
good work meng
gudkarma
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i hate to post in these threads anymore.
...but bro your making an error.
...one gallon smarties , weeks of veg , and then flower?
nope. not efficient. 100% gonna effect yield. if you were using rockwool (mapito or the like) then maybe.
as a true SOG professional, i'd flip these soon.
...but bro your making an error.
...one gallon smarties , weeks of veg , and then flower?
nope. not efficient. 100% gonna effect yield. if you were using rockwool (mapito or the like) then maybe.
as a true SOG professional, i'd flip these soon.
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phuzy
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Thanks for the reply. I was figuring on flipping when theyre slighty bigger. Why is this not efficient in clay? Also how come weeks of veg is not good? This is my first run and any advice helps.
gudkarma
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okay.
what to say?
slightly bigger plants (and not clones anymore) in one gallon containers leaves how much room for flower?
imo there's not enough room in a one gal container to do what you suggest & get the result you want.
i grow on .6 square meter & harvest nearly 12 to 14 ounces from 12 clones every 3 weeks (soon to be 2) ...been doing this years now.
al .b fukt created nothing so you know.
he just has s system.
clay vs container size = inefficient for your method w/ veg time
fact.
personally, i grow in clay.
but i also grow & am transitioning to mapito (rockwool cubes & foam pieces).
which is why 1 dry zip per container is not gonna happen for you this run till you change your method.
i bet it'll take 3 or 4 cuts your way to make a zip.
im guessing no more than 10 dry zips on your table.
the proper way = 22 to 25 dry zips
hmmmm...
look at it like this : veg time is doing what? maybe possibly making roots?
rooted cut, 3 to 7 days veg (if needed), flower : that's the process
you want to go rooted clone to flower with min veg so the container has max space for flowering roots & stretch.
and a humidity dome over the cuts early ...& then move the light closer ...this will help keep them low!
container size is critical to stretch too!
bigger volume = better, more even, less pencil-like stretch
& what you're really doing is filling the container with roots in veg early & leaving no room for flower.
these dudes will tell you : im a pro homie... search my handle.
what to say?
slightly bigger plants (and not clones anymore) in one gallon containers leaves how much room for flower?
imo there's not enough room in a one gal container to do what you suggest & get the result you want.
i grow on .6 square meter & harvest nearly 12 to 14 ounces from 12 clones every 3 weeks (soon to be 2) ...been doing this years now.
al .b fukt created nothing so you know.
he just has s system.
clay vs container size = inefficient for your method w/ veg time
fact.
personally, i grow in clay.
but i also grow & am transitioning to mapito (rockwool cubes & foam pieces).
which is why 1 dry zip per container is not gonna happen for you this run till you change your method.
i bet it'll take 3 or 4 cuts your way to make a zip.
im guessing no more than 10 dry zips on your table.
the proper way = 22 to 25 dry zips
hmmmm...
look at it like this : veg time is doing what? maybe possibly making roots?
rooted cut, 3 to 7 days veg (if needed), flower : that's the process
you want to go rooted clone to flower with min veg so the container has max space for flowering roots & stretch.
and a humidity dome over the cuts early ...& then move the light closer ...this will help keep them low!
container size is critical to stretch too!
bigger volume = better, more even, less pencil-like stretch
& what you're really doing is filling the container with roots in veg early & leaving no room for flower.
these dudes will tell you : im a pro homie... search my handle.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Gud has his shit down!
gudkarma
New Member
ow & i went back to check your photos.
dude ==> for tables you're flooding a liitle high
& the idea is to flood LOW(er) ... maybe 1/3 or 1/4 up the container & with each flood/drain cycle pull (kinda like suction but not like, im not a scientist but grow like one) new air down to those roots you just soaked.
ebb.
flow.
not ebb & drown.
not lots of floods either : there's a dry time balance you want
with mapito i flood maybe once or twice in first three weeks!
with hydroton & the way it wicks out moisture, you obviously have to flood more often ...& more low ... & encourgae the roots to go low & to seek out water. when roots are seeking plants are growing
& never ever never ever ever ever wet the top of the medium ebb growing... that's how bad things happen (mold for instance).
what you're gonna get with 25 cuts im getting with 12.
your using 2x the space i do to get less yield.
& that table size is like a 2 pounder... ask anybody who does tables for $.
not bragging just saying.
dude ==> for tables you're flooding a liitle high
& the idea is to flood LOW(er) ... maybe 1/3 or 1/4 up the container & with each flood/drain cycle pull (kinda like suction but not like, im not a scientist but grow like one) new air down to those roots you just soaked.
ebb.
flow.
not ebb & drown.
not lots of floods either : there's a dry time balance you want
with mapito i flood maybe once or twice in first three weeks!
with hydroton & the way it wicks out moisture, you obviously have to flood more often ...& more low ... & encourgae the roots to go low & to seek out water. when roots are seeking plants are growing
& never ever never ever ever ever wet the top of the medium ebb growing... that's how bad things happen (mold for instance).
what you're gonna get with 25 cuts im getting with 12.
your using 2x the space i do to get less yield.
& that table size is like a 2 pounder... ask anybody who does tables for $.
not bragging just saying.
slump
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Not sure if 0.65 GPW is considered pro...