A thread to honor the memory of the abolitionist John Brown.

[Canna Sylvan]

He probably thought he was going to warn the white southern slave owners. House slaves and freed slaves were sometimes involved in the vileness that was slavery in the Old South. John Brown would have avoided the entire Civil War if he was successful. His cause was just and he was a great man.

I'm shocked that people are still racist enough to hate him.

That's not a valid excuse to kill someone. They also killed him because he refused their thug actions. He was a terrorist. Had there been some other cause and slavery never happened, he's the type to have caused trouble for trouble's sake. He was a murderer. The end. His actions go against my Buddhist philosophy.

 

[Dr Kynes]

He probably thought he was going to warn the white southern slave owners. House slaves and freed slaves were sometimes involved in the vileness that was slavery in the Old South. John Brown would have avoided the entire Civil War if he was successful. His cause was just and he was a great man.

I'm shocked that people are still racist enough to hate him.

and you stand alone, extolling the "virtues" of a deranged madman who tried to start an armed insurrection because the vote didnt go his way fast enough.

 

[MidwesternGro]

and you stand alone, extolling the "virtues" of a deranged madman who tried to start an armed insurrection because the vote didnt go his way fast enough.

You think that he should have just stood idly by while others owned human beings? John Brown was a hero. Southern attempts at smearing him and calling him a madman are pathetic.

Had John Brown been successful it would have averted a war that was disastrous for the South, and he would have ended the evil practice of slavery.

 

[UncleBuck]

and you stand alone, extolling the "virtues" of a deranged madman who tried to start an armed insurrection because the vote didnt go his way fast enough.

ending slavery "may have been" the right thing to do.

 

[killemsoftly]

he still aint no hero.
he is still a murderous thug who sought to change the system IN A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC by violence rather than persuasion.

It's not a democracy when people are enslaved. Persuasion had not worked. I see it as an act of both moral outrage and desperation. I'm not condoning the violence but I do understand the outrage. Bear in mind, slavery was highly coercive.

You're free to say he's a thug. Polemics over reason; nothing in his history suggests he's a thug. He was a family man.
Where's your outrage at this MURDEROUS SLAVE ECONOMY kynes?

 

[Dr Kynes]

It's not a democracy when people are enslaved. Persuasion had not worked. I see it as an act of both moral outrage and desperation. I'm not condoning the violence but I do understand the outrage. Bear in mind, slavery was highly coercive.

You're free to say he's a thug. Polemics over reason; nothing in his history suggests he's a thug. He was a family man.
Where's your outrage at this MURDEROUS SLAVE ECONOMY kynes?

i dunno, wheres your "understanding" of the need for low cost farm equipment?

 

[UncleBuck]

i condone his violence.

 

[killemsoftly]

i dunno, wheres your "understanding" of the need for low cost farm equipment?

Misdirection. Very refreshing and unexpected.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Misdirection. Very refreshing and unexpected.

that issue is exactly as pressing as your demand that i show sympathy for slavery that ended 150 years before i was born.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

we need a Abdul Brown.........in the "Muslim World"..........today.........

 

[BigNBushy]

My favorite part about you lefties blowing the memory of John Brown was the anecdote where he moved to a black farm area, "to be their father" because the poor blacks just "can't do it on their own."

John Brown is the father of modern Democratic race policy.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

a flourishing slave trade continues today, an

My favorite part about you lefties blowing the memory of John Brown was the anecdote where he moved to a black farm area, "to be their father" because the poor blacks just "can't do it on their own."

John Brown is the father of modern Democratic race policy.

he was going to arm black slaves with spears, and hurl them at plantations. he'd be right behind them, a ways, with his Springfield musket.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

My favorite part about you lefties blowing the memory of John Brown was the anecdote where he moved to a black farm area, "to be their father" because the poor blacks just "can't do it on their own."

John Brown is the father of modern Democratic race policy.

These fuckers think Che Guevara was Boy Scout troop leader.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

My favorite part about you lefties blowing the memory of John Brown was the anecdote where he moved to a black farm area, "to be their father" because the poor blacks just "can't do it on their own."

John Brown is the father of modern Democratic race policy.

Uncle wants to be EVERYONE'S daddy now......

 

[Mindmelted]

You think that he should have just stood idly by while others owned human beings? John Brown was a hero. Southern attempts at smearing him and calling him a madman are pathetic.

Had John Brown been successful it would have averted a war that was disastrous for the South, and he would have ended the evil practice of slavery.

Slavery would have died on the vine like it did everywhere else.

 

[UncleBuck]

Slavery would have died on the vine like it did everywhere else.

slavery was at an all time high when the civil war started. about a quarter of southern families had a slave or slaves. they listed it as their primary reason for seceding.

slavery was alive and well in the shithole blight we call the american south.

 

[WORDZofWORDZCRAFT]

 

[kinetic]

You support Obama's terrorism, so it's not surprising.

John Brown: America's First Terrorist

"While in Harpers Ferry, the raiders killed a railroad baggage handler, who ironically was a free black, when he refused their orders to halt."

http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2011/spring/brown.html

"Americas" first terrorism....http://www.manataka.org/page269.html

 

[BigNBushy]

slavery was at an all time high when the civil war started. about a quarter of southern families had a slave or slaves. they listed it as their primary reason for seceding.

slavery was alive and well in the shithole blight we call the american south.

There is a saying. .. it's always darkest before the dawn...

Prohibition was enforced strictly, until it wasn't.

Payphones were on every corner even after cell phones were released.

The south was finding it harder and harder to sale their cotton and goods to people. Eventually they would have had to drop the price so much to be unprofitable on the market.

It was not healthy, it was in its death throws. Just as the sun will expand when it dies.

You're right, that the south would have never voluntarily emancipated to the extent that they just changed their mind. But economic pressure would have been imposed, in that no one would buy their cotton up north or in England or France. They would have then given up their slavery.

 

[Mindmelted]

slavery was at an all time high when the civil war started. about a quarter of southern families had a slave or slaves. they listed it as their primary reason for seceding.

slavery was alive and well in the shithole blight we call the american south.

You are a snore feast for sure.