Advanced Nutrients a scam? (Haters gonna hate)
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AandM Farms
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In your indoor grows which AN nutes and additives do you use? Or do you use full line up?Here are some shots from over the years, featuring some of my indoor and outdoor grows using AN.
calvin.m16
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UPDATE (2 years later)
I ran full line of AN and it was stupidly over priced and diluted. I since then started trying different lines including House & Garden (good but still pricey), Heavy 16 (trash, bad quality smoke but good yield), Green Planet and now I use CYCO complete line now and you only need like 1/3 the amount at 1/2 the price. I ran Advanced Nutrients for 2 years and learned that a lot of their products are crap for what you're paying, most of the bottles are 90%+ water.
Wanted to just put Advanced Nutrients on blast that they are definitely scummy and over priced for what you get. I was unaware until I tried other products and realized how diluted and overpriced Advanced Nutrients were. Never will I run their stuff again.
98% Water and costs $90-100 for a quart, no thanks. Scam
BIG BUD is just protein powder with a bit of potassium sulfate & potassium phosphate.... "AMINO ACIDS" are the same shit you will find in literal protein powder from walmart except you can buy a 1 pound tub for 20 dollars..
Hydrolyzed Whey Protein IN PLANTS :
Scammers gunna scam.
I ran full line of AN and it was stupidly over priced and diluted. I since then started trying different lines including House & Garden (good but still pricey), Heavy 16 (trash, bad quality smoke but good yield), Green Planet and now I use CYCO complete line now and you only need like 1/3 the amount at 1/2 the price. I ran Advanced Nutrients for 2 years and learned that a lot of their products are crap for what you're paying, most of the bottles are 90%+ water.
Wanted to just put Advanced Nutrients on blast that they are definitely scummy and over priced for what you get. I was unaware until I tried other products and realized how diluted and overpriced Advanced Nutrients were. Never will I run their stuff again.
98% Water and costs $90-100 for a quart, no thanks. Scam
BIG BUD is just protein powder with a bit of potassium sulfate & potassium phosphate.... "AMINO ACIDS" are the same shit you will find in literal protein powder from walmart except you can buy a 1 pound tub for 20 dollars..
Hydrolyzed Whey Protein IN PLANTS :
https://www.mbferts.com/collections/everyday-additives/products/hydrolyzed-whey-protein-food-grade-amino-acid-protein-shake
Scammers gunna scam.
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xtsho
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Don't you find it ironic that you started this thread 2 years ago raving about AN and now you're calling it a scam? But you're right. Too bad you gave them a bunch of your money before realizing it. Live and learn.
calvin.m16
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Yes I know that is why I'm coming back to edit it. I've learned a lot and definitely one thing is that their nutrients are overpriced and diluted.
I can't edit the original thread since its from 2019.
Thank you
So like a stoned doofus I didn't ask what you're using now.
Wastei
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LOL thank you!
Fahn2k
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I like you started with Advanced, as a beginner it does what it's supposed to do. I takes away the PH worries. Any beginner can used Advanced without worry. So they can worry about other grow related issues and learn. I use Advanced and have no problem with it. I can say that as time goes by and I learn more I know that I will move on from it. At least you mentioned what you chose to use next. My question is how long or how many grows have you used Cyco on? I've seen it before and avoided it because it's like trading one 16 bottle crumb trail for another. How much would you estimate you honestly saved, $10, $20, $40? Did your saving include the cost of a PH pen and other PH products? What abut convenience? I can fill a 12 gallon reservoir an go on vacation for a week without PH worries, can I do that with Cyco? I'm not defending Advanced I just really want to know. I want to know what benefits are there to make a switch worthwhile. I can do without the cost and its full of water argument, that part is given.
2cent
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All nuts are scam. I was advanced nute fullrange 6 years loved it till i worked out what i was feeding them n smokinh up. 400quida grow
Organic water only and i yield more bud and its harder lol never cud get concrete like this..i thuaght i could... nah now a grow costs me 20 quid for 9 plants and min a kilo lol
Organic water only and i yield more bud and its harder lol never cud get concrete like this..i thuaght i could... nah now a grow costs me 20 quid for 9 plants and min a kilo lol
Porky1982
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Mate credit to ya for coming on an admitting that ya had no idea 2 years ago. Most people would never come back to the thread.
Rurumo
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It's not so much a scam as simply exploitive, and it's terrible for the environment to ship those bottles around. It's fertilizer, absolutely nothing special about it. AN is like buying bottled water from Fiji. Most people who stick to growing eventually either end up using powdered inorganic fertilizers or organic living soil, I like both. The complete lack of transparency in their ingredients is also a bit scummy.
Fahn2k
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Where I'm at AN is middle ground. You can find cheaper and you can buy more expensive. AN is convenient with no ph worries. A good choice for a beginner.
Psyphish
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I live in a flat, I don't have a garage or a shed to mix hundreds of liters of soil ingredients. I grow in small tents with small pots, living soil is simply not an option.
I've been growing for 14 years. I don't miss any of the "pro" stuff.
Tangerine_
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You came full circle and also came to same conclusion every other grower thats ever been sucked into marketing hype has. And there's no shame in that and you're now a better grower because of it. We've all done it at one point or another.
AandM Farms
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Why hate use what you use and spread the word. Everyone is going to try new things in the garden cause it's always a learning experience. Happy Growing
PopAndSonGrows
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I for one greatly appreciate this entire thread. I love seeing people reveal their "truths" ---- what he's saying isn't true for everyone, lots of people love AN and their pretty labels (I for one love their label art) but I respect a person's opinion as it applies to their practice. You aren't just "talking shit", it's a genuine opinion based on experience.
I personally use General Hydroponics nutrient because I get great results, haven't had any issues at all and I don't pretend they're something that they're not, i realize they're a mineral based "conglomerate" product, but I'm too new to be fucking around with weird products, lol. I do want to try Canna Coco at some point. Dutch Pro looks great too.
Anyways, thanks for posting this
I personally use General Hydroponics nutrient because I get great results, haven't had any issues at all and I don't pretend they're something that they're not, i realize they're a mineral based "conglomerate" product, but I'm too new to be fucking around with weird products, lol. I do want to try Canna Coco at some point. Dutch Pro looks great too.
Anyways, thanks for posting this