Advanced Nutrients Grand Master Grower Bundle Product Review

Ibex said:

You are such a stellar example of the RuI community!
Also, those plants look fine.

Care to post your unbelievably better bud shots?




I did exactly that. Then changed away from AN's excessive marketing budget.
Ive been using Dutch Master's macro line since 2008 now and recently added in Canna pk 13/14

Real question is, why do you feel the need to defend a company so much? Why the hell do you care what anyone else uses if your plants are doing well?

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see this is my point you don't see other people having problems Nor spending excessive amount of money just To get a healthy happy harvest. Plus I take a very academic approach to my plants. I don't go based on feelings or wishful thinking, & I wanted to have controls in place to show x is correlated with y. Most people think these nutrients are with doing the plant so well when in reality it's just a plant doing the plants thing and meeting the nutrient requirements.

Stoned Drifter said:

hum I wonder? check out this post he put up in another AN thread. dude puts # on twice just in case u missed it the first time.

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Not only that, but the first time he states that its AN's Tech Support, then the second time (same number) its a discount AN supplier who sells other nute line ups and will give you an unbiased opinion on your AN question.

Right on.

I honestly dont care if people decide to spend money on AN's lineup. Changes my life none, I have no horse in this race but dont pretend like AN's the be all, end all of plant nutrition.

Edit: If you thought AN was expensive, you should look at Aptus (link to purchase site)

Ha I laughed when I saw aptus prices! They were pimping their goods at my local hydro store last week. Unless you can tell me what's in them where I'm spending $100+ a bottle, they can go fuck themselves. Proprietary blend of seaweed my ass.

One should never need to call a hot line to figure out a product. If that's the case you shouldn't be using it or growing cannabis

Aptus is learning from AN.

max420thc said:

So im the only one who sees the leafs twisting and turning.To top that off he didnt get his initial vert stretch for the colas to fill out and in.
The reason he didnt get vertical stretch?To much N.To the point its toxic.
You can see one leaf twisting upside down in the pic..it took it worse than the other plant that just got stunted by it.
I dont mean to be mean to you over your plant.I wish i could say it looks fine and healthy..but it doesn't.It would do me no good..or you no good for me to pat you on the back and say otherwise.
As OCD as i am if i had leafs turning upside down like that i wouldnt be able to sleep at night thinking about it.
If some of you are going to bash a nute system you never even tried i challenge you to try it..for free.
If you go get the nutes..use them for your first run..and dont like how it turned out.NOT THE PRICE. take the shit back and get your money back..simple.
ITS FREE..FIRST RUN..FREE FREE..LOL..
Go get the stuff..run it once..if you dont like it take it all back for all of your money back..simple..first run you do on them is FREE.
Then you can come in here and say..what a shit company and product it is..

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I'm runnin Golden Tree with my fox farms nutes presently,think I have a keeper lineup for now.5 week veg,day 24.

If you were to look at the post following that one you would see that i made a bit of a correction on that number.And it was a answer to someones question on if they should call AN up in Canada or not..Why wouldnt you call tech support..that is what they are for.DAN is a company that sells any nute line you want to buy..
If you call them and ask some of their guys..hey..whats the best to use..Two names come across their lips real fast..DM..and AN.
It is true.If you purchase AN..and dont like it..take it back..get your money back.No problem.
So now you cowboys have nothing to lose to try it.Not even money and you still come up with some lame ass excuses.
Ive used a pile of nute companys products and nute systems.( i really like humbolt countys own bud boosters)
I think ive said more than once or twice i actually got more production out of DM.
Unlike you folks i have actually grown with other companys nutes.Not just bashing something i know nothing of for no reason other than some kind of fanatical hate.
The same shit comes up over and over again..To expensive . Snake oil.
If i paid 500 dollars for a product.just a example..and that product increases the production of my grow by 1/8 of a ounce per plant..ive made allot of money.
You can purchase 40 grams of bud blood for around 20 bucks.It is only used for the first week of bud.If you dont like it..take it back and get your money back.Simple.
Just one..One little product.Bud Blood.20 dollars shouldnt break any of you high rollers around here.
Some ones probably going to say..i can grow for 20 years on 20 bucks..WTF..its over priced.LOL
If it increases your production and quality does it pay for itself? Or are you paying for it?
If you were to use this..it would give that N something to do other than work on your leafs and stunt vert growth.
This product will stack your bud sites in close together and start bud out fast with huge amounts more bud sites than not using it.That is what it will do...It will increase your production..for sure.
Use at 1/3 of recommended strength.
Everyone is always concerned about stretch.For overhead reasons it can be a concern.But i want vert stretch.Some anyway.
Vertical stretch is where the plant gains its colas.Then the colas fill in to large buds.
Only a few people have seen my grow on here.Im a computer idiot and am noid to go with it.
If any of your guys shit looked any better id be doing it your way..trust me..im not that fucking hard headed.
If you want to see what my grow looks like look at scoobys grow.Looks just like that one.
Even his plans for his new grow look similar to my grow.

raiderman said:

I'm runnin Golden Tree with my fox farms nutes presently,think I have a keeper lineup for now.5 week veg,day 24.

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Hey...love you buddy..plants look great..see guys what proper stretch for fill in looks like to be nice and productive...
Proper green color to finish on time and correct.You always get plenty of frost so you have your humidity levels and temp on target.He has the right amount of PK along with his N so it gives the N something to do other than turn dark green..
If you dont shock a plant right off of the bat it will get proper stretch with enough light.
Im going to try a hydro run on blue planet soon.Because of your grow.It looks pretty damn good.
Ive asked my local hydro shop to check into it for me.Along with heavy 16.Golden Tree looks like its working out stellar for you.

What I have to lose is time and a productive harvest which is worth far more than the cost of nutes.

I've seen AN grows, few good most sub par. Research has led me to believe that what I'm doing now is working well and creating a more complicated, costly, and of questionable quality simply unwise. Improvement can always be made, switching to AN doesn't seem wise

Thx Max,, I don't know how many notes I have on your pointers.theres always room for improvement here..the short one is Gorilla Grape,forms bonsai type growth ,stays med to short,a superior strain imo .haha I had been waiting 2 yrs for that one to drop..taller one nyc diesel..peace bro.

TonightYou said:

What I have to lose is time and a productive harvest which is worth far more than the cost of nutes.

I've seen AN grows, few good most sub par. Research has led me to believe that what I'm doing now is working well and creating a more complicated, costly, and of questionable quality simply unwise. Improvement can always be made, switching to AN doesn't seem wise

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Your not going to lose production....you are going to gain production.You are not going to lose money..you are going to make money.
We are not discussing going to a new line up..just one product to try out.Just one..with a money back gaurantee.
You remind me of a kid who parents are trying to get him to try veggies but you wont because you dont like it..and you know you dont like it although youve never tried it.
Try just one little product..Bud Blood..just one.Itll taste good..i promise.
I dont want you to change your whole line up..just try this one product.You can even keep it secret if you want that way you buddies dont make fun of you..try it on just one plant if you are a container grower.
Allot of growers are using just maybe one product from AN they like..allot of them love bud candy for example.Its a inexpensive carbo L amino acid product.
Some growers just use overdrive.
Im i going to have to double dog dare you?

I use what works and what it's based on. Its not a pride thing. Shit Ive been wrong in the past, and Im sure it wont be the last. Now what's the science behind it? What is the purpose of the product and how does it work?

Never been a fan of AN nute line. I ve run it against a good amount of others and it just doesnt compare and the cost is laughable. My faves over last 15 years is still Fox Farm, then Canna, then Humbolts Emerald Triangle Deep Fusion line.

max420thc said:

Your money back if you try it and dont like it.

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max420thc said:

Your not going to lose production....you are going to gain production.You are not going to lose money..you are going to make money.
We are not discussing going to a new line up..just one product to try out.Just one..with a money back gaurantee.

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AN claims to have a money back guarantee but their return policy is not as easy as it sounds. Unhappy with an AN product like I was? Call AN's 1-800 number and ask them for a refund. AN doesn't accept returns, it's the grow store that processes your return and each grow store has their own return policy. The store I bought my Connoisseur from wanted me to fill out paperwork which asked for personal information. Then said paperwork would be reviewed by the region's AN rep before a refund was issued. The refund doesn't come entirely from AN, it's the grow store that takes a financial hit too.

I called the store I normally go to for plant food and asked them about their AN return policy. Since they knew me they'd have taken back the products no-questions-asked, but they also said they'd take back anything a customer had an issue with.

Buyer beware!

Alienwidow said:

AN for me is a breeze. Makes getting a gram a watt for hobbiests like me possible. I want to see a home brewers start to finnish manual for how to grow. Id love to see some pre chop shots with directions in how to get there. Whip it out brewer. No disrespect, i know your a good photographer and all but teach us the ways.....a grow doesnt last that long, one page should sum it up. Id really love to learn one or two things. Pm me when ya got the take on it. Im crashin.

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Homebrewer, no reply? Cummon, teach me somthing about how to grow brewer style.

Alienwidow said:

Homebrewer, no reply? Cummon, teach me somthing about how to grow brewer style.

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I'm currently conducting my 9th grow journal on canna forums and while I'm not expecting you to read them all, you should be able to find plenty of information written in those pages. Heck I've got 6 journals at this site alone (my Classic Seeds journal contains two grows).

homebrewer said:

I'm currently conducting my 9th grow journal on canna forums and while I'm not expecting you to read them all, you should be able to find plenty of information written in those pages. Heck I've got 6 journals at this site alone (my Classic Seeds journal contains two grows).

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Ok, i just read through that one. The internode spacing is weirdly far apart, do you use hps all the way? And they dont seem to get that big on thread, is it the buckets maybe? Smart pots work pretty good for me. Mine look like this. Its just ffof and AN nutes but they just get huge....idk?

Alienwidow said:

Ok, i just read through that one. The internode spacing is weirdly far apart, do you use hps all the way?

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Which strain are you referring to? The Thai and Colombian Gold cross or the Chem/Alpha Diesel/C99 cross? I'm assuming you're talking about the sativa dominant thai cross and I think the answer to your internodal spacing question is obvious there.

And they dont seem to get that big on thread, is it the buckets maybe? Smart pots work pretty good for me. Mine look like this. Its just ffof and AN nutes but they just get huge....idk?

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It's awful hard to do size comparisons between growers considering we're growing different strains in different environments. The overwhelming majority of my strains are sativa dominant as I grow for raw cerebral power, not munchies/couch-lock/bedtime.

Alienwidow said:

Ok, i just read through that one. The internode spacing is weirdly far apart, do you use hps all the way? And they dont seem to get that big on thread, is it the buckets maybe? Smart pots work pretty good for me. Mine look like this. Its just ffof and AN nutes but they just get huge....idk?

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is that really what people get from AN? fucking no thaks friends. holly fucking shit!!!!!!!!!

Alienwidow said:

Ok, i just read through that one. The internode spacing is weirdly far apart, do you use hps all the way? And they dont seem to get that big on thread, is it the buckets maybe? Smart pots work pretty good for me. Mine look like this. Its just ffof and AN nutes but they just get huge....idk?

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is that really what people r getting from AN? fucking no thanks friends!!!!! holy fucking shit!!!!!

homebrewer said:

Which strain are you referring to? The Thai and Colombian Gold cross or the Chem/Alpha Diesel/C99 cross? I'm assuming you're talking about the sativa dominant thai cross and I think the answer to your internodal spacing question is obvious there.



It's awful hard to do size comparisons between growers considering we're growing different strains in different environments. The overwhelming majority of my strains are sativa dominant as I grow for raw cerebral power, not munchies/couch-lock/bedtime.

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Posts 33 to like 35. Thats why i was asking about the hps all the way through. They just seem a little lankey to me. That plant looks great its just not really girthy you know what i mean?