American Wildfires

Aeroknow

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Our bro from here who hasn’t posted here in a minute lost his shit in the Bear fire.
My heart goes out to him. I’m here for you bro.
I’ve heard even more nastier shit about the CA fair plan you had. Hit me up.
 
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Aeroknow

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But at least there’s the CA fair plan. All the major carriers have pulled out wont be writing or renewing policies
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is just the beginning.


I'd say a lot of republican rural farming types are gonna go under for lack of water. Bankruptcy usually means they move to the city. Cities will come first and farmers will come last for water resources. It might change the balance of power in some districts. Republican California is agricultural and irrigation dependent and they have few friends there, unless it rains a lot they are gonna die of thirst. But hey, republicans believe climate change is a hoax, like covid was, not so long ago, I notice they became believers in covid lately, or they suddenly got a lot of worms...

Masks still appear to be an issue though, the latest conspiracy theory is, guys like you "manipulated" them into their current corner and it's all your fault Captain! :D
 

hanimmal

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Our bro from here who hasn’t posted here in a minute lost his shit in the Bear fire.
My heart goes out to him. I’m here for you bro.
I’ve heard even more nastier shit about the CA fair plan you had. Hit me up.
That sucks so much.

Anything I am typing seems wholly inadequate in saying how sorry I feel for them and anyone else impacted by these tragic events.
 

captainmorgan

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Funkentelechy

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Our bro from here who hasn’t posted here in a minute lost his shit in the Bear fire.
My heart goes out to him. I’m here for you bro.
I’ve heard even more nastier shit about the CA fair plan you had. Hit me up.
It's possible they haven't communicated lately because of a lack of an Internet connection. Internet is just starting to be restored to some places here in Plumas, I have no idea if they have it up yet in Indian falls, but it's probably pretty low on the list of priorities since there are very few people who live there.

I know most of the people who live there, I know three people who lived there and grew who lost everything. Another guy there who grows thought for while that his house had burned down, but later found out that his house made it after all, hopefully that's who you are talking about.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russian speaking woman is arrested for starting the Fawn fire and suspected in other fires, she calls herself a shaman, I'm sure it's all just a coincidence.


Why she should have freedumb of religion and be able to burn down forests, it's her RIGHT, this is NAZISM! Free Alexandra! Is she vaxxed and does she wear a mask? How did the nut job get into the country?
 

Funkentelechy

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I took a few pictures from downtown Greenville yesterday: IMG_3014[1].JPG


The brick wall on the left with the arched window frames is all that is left of the sheriff's station.
Check out how the metal post of the street light melted.
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Most of the downtown was built in the 1800s, so now all that's left behind in many places is piles of square nails.
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This was a window that melted into the gravel.
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This, if you can believe it is(was) a fire truck.
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xtsho

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I took a few pictures from downtown Greenville yesterday: View attachment 4996539


The brick wall on the left with the arched window frames is all that is left of the sheriff's station.
Check out how the metal post of the street light melted.
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Most of the downtown was built in the 1800s, so now all that's left behind in many places is piles of square nails.
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This was a window that melted into the gravel.
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This, if you can believe it is(was) a fire truck.
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No words just tears.
 

Funkentelechy

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Technically, the pole didn’t melt, it sagged. Many metals weaken well short of liquidus.
That makes sense.
Well check this out, this was a food truck, notice on the ground the melted aluminum:
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This was a Subaru Forester, the puddle is what used to be the was the rim.
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This is the other side of the car, it didn't burn as hot so this is what the rim should have looked like in the previous picture.
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CatHedral

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That makes sense.
Well check this out, this was a food truck, notice on the ground the melted aluminum:
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This was a Subaru Forester, the puddle is what used to be the was the rim.
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This is the other side of the car, it didn't burn as hot so this is what the rim should have looked like in the previous picture.
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Yes
 

hanimmal

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https://apnews.com/article/climate-wildfires-science-environment-and-nature-forests-581747bff7abec7b3d090fb8853d8e1a
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Lightning-sparked wildfires killed thousands of giant sequoias this year, adding to a staggering two-year death toll that accounts for up to nearly a fifth of Earth’s largest trees, officials said Friday.

Fires in Sequoia National Park and the surrounding national forest that also bears the trees’ name tore through more than a third of groves in California and torched an estimated 2,261 and 3,637 sequoias, which are the largest trees by volume. Fires in the same area last year killed an unprecedented 7,500 to 10,400 of the 75,000 trees that are only native in about 70 groves scattered along the western side of the Sierra Nevada range.

Intense fires that burned hot enough and high enough to kill so many giant sequoias — trees once considered nearly fire-proof — puts an exclamation point on the impact of climate change. The combination of a warming planet that has created hotter droughts and a century of fire suppression that choked forests with thick undergrowth have fueled blazes that have sounded the death knell for trees that date back to ancient civilizations.

“The sobering reality is that we have seen another huge loss within a finite population of these iconic trees that are irreplaceable in many lifetimes,” said Clay Jordan, superintendent of Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks. “As spectacular as these trees are we really can’t take them for granted. To ensure that they’re around for our kids and grandkids and great grandkids, some action is necessary.”

California has seen its largest fires in the past five years, with last year setting a record for most acreage burned. So far, the second-largest amount of land has burned this year.

After last year’s Castle and SQF Complex fires took officials by surprise by wiping out so many sequoias, extraordinary measures were taken to save the largest and oldest trees this year.

The General Sherman tree — the largest living thing on earth — and other ancient trees that are the backdrop for photos that often fail to capture grandeur of the giant sequoias was wrapped in a foil blanket.

A type of fire-retardant gel, similar to that used as absorbent in baby’s diapers, was dropped on tree canopies that can exceed 200 feet (60 meters) in height. Sprinklers watered down trunks and flammable matter was raked away from trees.

The measures spared the Giant Forest, the premiere grove of ancient trees in the park, but the measures couldn’t be deployed everywhere.

The bulk of the Suwanee grove in the park burned in an extreme fire in the Marble Fork of the Kaweah River drainage. The Starvation Complex grove in Sequoia National Forest was largely destroyed, based on estimates of how much of it burned at high-severity.

In 2013, the park had done climate modeling that predicted extreme fires wouldn’t jeopardize sequoias for another 50 years, said Christy Brigham, chief of resource management and science at the two parks. But that was at the start of what became a punishing five-year drought that essentially broke the model.

Amid the drought in 2015, the park saw giant sequoias torched for the first time. Two fires in 2017 killed more giant sequoias, serving as a warning for what was to come.

“Then the Castle Fire happened and it was like, ‘Oh, my God,’” Brigham said. “We went from the warning sign to hair on fire. To lose 7,000 trees in one fire is crazy.”

A full mortality count from last year’s fire is still not available because crews in the forest were in the process of confirming how many trees died when lightning struck Sept. 9, igniting the Windy Fire in Sequoia National Forest and the SQF Complex in the park, Brigham said.

Not all the news from the estimates was bleak.

While fire burned into 27 groves and large numbers of trees were incinerated, a lot of low-intensity fire that sequoias need to thrive cleared out vegetation and the heat will open cones so they can spread their seeds.

Areas, however, where fire burned so hot and seeds were killed, may not be able to regenerate. For the first time, the park is considering planting seedlings to preserve the species.

“I’m not ready to give up on giant sequoias,” Brigham said.
 
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