Are there really strains with 30% thc?

whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Odin* said:
@RM3 Not dissing your plants, but each of those pics is full of leaves and hair. They're lacking full, bulbous, calyxes. As I stated above, bud structure suffers under the T5. Those plants look like they have potential. Which strains of yours are those, I was considering picking up some beans from you as you seem to have your hands on some interesting gear. That is, if I haven't offended you (which I have no intention of doing, or did not do intentionally if I already have).


Have you ever experimented with HID vs T5 in the same run, within the same room, to see first hand which yields the best buds? I have. HID won. On top of overall quality, that quality was more consistent, top to bottom, on 4'-6' plants.

I retired the T5's from veg also. Plants veg'd under T5's are slower to flower and do not grow as vigorously, and do not produce the quality of flower as those veg'd under 400w-600w MH. This was tested over numerous runs with various strains. Each run included same strain plants veg'd under either 400w/600w. I still have some T5's hanging, but up near the ceiling, with hoods below them (housing Sunmaster 400 and Ushio 400) in a veg room. Those T5's haven't been used in years.
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Can we see pics then?
 
RM3

RM3

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Odin* said:
@RM3 Not dissing your plants, but each of those pics is full of leaves and hair. They're lacking full, bulbous, calyxes. As I stated above, bud structure suffers under the T5. Those plants look like they have potential. Which strains of yours are those, I was considering picking up some beans from you as you seem to have your hands on some interesting gear. That is, if I haven't offended you (which I have no intention of doing, or did not do intentionally if I already have).


Have you ever experimented with HID vs T5 in the same run, within the same room, to see first hand which yields the best buds? I have. HID won. On top of overall quality, that quality was more consistent, top to bottom, on 4'-6' plants.

I retired the T5's from veg also. Plants veg'd under T5's are slower to flower and do not grow as vigorously, and do not produce the quality of flower as those veg'd under 400w-600w MH. This was tested over numerous runs with various strains. Each run included same strain plants veg'd under either 400w/600w. I still have some T5's hanging, but up near the ceiling, with hoods below them (housing Sunmaster 400 and Ushio 400) in a veg room. Those T5's haven't been used in years.
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I breed so my buds are seeded, prolly why they don't look all that to you and no you did not upset me, I don't judge by bag appeal, I judge by the high and T5 wins hands down every time where the high is concerned. Never owned an HPS light but have a friend that did a side by side with clones under an HPS, a CMH and T5's the T5 bud were the best smoke, best high and he's a member here @DCobeen so you could ask him 8)

My seeds sales are on hold at the moment

most of those pics are a Santa Cruz Blue Dream cut
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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my mex sour will have you sniffling and eyes watering during trim guaranteed .. neighbors thinking your baking garlic bread

my ex wife actually came home one day, what are you cooking? i could smell it from the car ;)

lol..
anyway.



i have done lots of tests with my plants btw. mh hps cfl and t5

cfl and t5 produced far better bud.

but imo environment, nutes the cure is more what you should.focus on.. hps just isnt as frosty but its still dank and i can pump out product with less leaf to trim, longer bulb life etc
i makes more money

just my little imo
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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SamsonsRiddle said:
with the whole vegan thing - couldn't you use pro mix (or coco) with synthetics and be vegan since you don't use any animal by-products that way?
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wouldn't be organic at all, but it's be as "veganic" as normal "veganics"are.
hmmm I wonder if anyone has ever tried to make their own nutrient lineup on that whole fad??
well i'll be damned.. I am SO surprised that there is?
wow, someone trying to make money off stoners...
what a concept...
I mean I don't know HOW roses, vegetables, orchids, fruit or any of that was EVER grown for centuries, without a seven-bottle-lineup and a fuckin bottle of "flush"
 
Beemo

Beemo

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Yodaweed said:
More trolling? I don't got time for this troll welcome to my ignore list. Go boil your roots under your tanning bed lights.
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RM3 said:
T5 buds 8)
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those plants under the tanning bed lights, is better than anything i've EVER seen from tha master @Yodaweed
i bet ill get me high too, instead of being immune to it. :lol:
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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SoOLED said:
but, concentrates market is breeding, strains just for that. not for fine flower experience.

we were just talking about this on another thread: strains like GSC and sour D have strong cannabinoid profile, not just in the THC's

I'm like a bitter old man yelling at kids to get off my lawn, when these dabber kids are around. I understand the wax market, but even if I never smoke anything Ill always love loud flower in my pocket.


..and I know an old man with an iron maiden denim jacket, been growing with T5's for decades, sells out every time at the SD canna market every time. just last week he sold out before 2pm.

hes like the beef jerky guy at your swap meet, you go knowing you will buy some.
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I dig stories like these. Thanks for sharing with us.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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greasemonkeymann said:
wouldn't be organic at all, but it's be as "veganic" as normal "veganics"are.
hmmm I wonder if anyone has ever tried to make their own nutrient lineup on that whole fad??
well i'll be damned.. I am SO surprised that there is?
wow, someone trying to make money off stoners...
what a concept...
I mean I don't know HOW roses, vegetables, orchids, fruit or any of that was EVER grown for centuries, without a seven-bottle-lineup and a fuckin bottle of "flush"
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Right?! FFS, they're plants, not Boulder residents!
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Beemo said:
those plants under the tanning bed lights, is better than anything i've EVER seen from tha master @Yodaweed
i bet ill get me high too, instead of being immune to it. :lol:
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Oh shit, you don't even know! @RM3 makes a fuckin hobby out of getting me so blazed I'm passed out n drooling on his couch, lol

And I'm not exactly noob status in the tolerance department, either. Fuck! Lol

Good times!
 
Odin*

Odin*

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whitebb2727 said:
What?

Light doesn't make terpenes. Light evaporates terpenes.
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Light also degrades THC, but the plant isn't making THC without light. Brix levels, light dependent also.

whitebb2727 said:
An article on terpenes for the ones that need to brush up on it.

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/terpenes-the-flavors-of-cannabis-aromatherapy
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I appreciate your attempt at being a "Smart Alec", even your "proof link" mentions "day" (light) as a determining factor in terpene development. Who gets "grow know" from fucking Leafly?!


"What?" (Back at ya).



Now that we've both been "turds" (I'm really tired/drained, and in a poop mood right now), let's have a bowl and reflect on some cool shit. :bigjoint:

Hope we're cool man, no hate over on this side.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Odin* said:
Light also degrades THC, but the plant isn't making THC without light. Brix levels, light dependent also.




I appreciate your attempt at being a "Smart Alec", even your "proof link" mentions "day" (light) as a determining factor in terpene development. Who gets "grow know" from fucking Leafly?!


"What?" (Back at ya).



Now that we've both been "turds" (I'm really tired/drained, and in a poop mood right now), let's have a bowl and reflect on some cool shit. :bigjoint:

Hope we're cool man, no hate over on this side.
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I don't use leafly. It was the first one I clicked.

Light does make a plant grow but evaporates terpenes. They smell more at lights off. Its the reason to chop right before lights on. I wouldn't go over bore like some but sometimes will extend the dark period some right before I chop. I don't claim it to make them swell more or anything like that, just more terpenes.

Also the starches are in the root zone and allows for a better cure.


We are good. No harm, no foul. Just a friendly debate.
 
9leaves

9leaves

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I feel the levels of each cannabinoid are all questionable. Because it is percent of the piece tested. Like a concentrate form would be way highier. Just the plant lower. But I'm being Mr. Obvious.
 
Psyphish

Psyphish

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I've grown with fluorescents, different types (CFLs, 250w CFLs 2700K & 6500K, PL-L, T5, PL-L+LED), the plants are always really frosty under them, but everything was a lot better and frostier under 315w CDMs and even 400w Retro Whites. The buds are always kind of fluffy looking under fluorescent, never had a rock solid bud under them.

Now I use LEDs (monos) in my micro projects and 315w CDMs in my main tent. And don't get me wrong, I don't really like the mono LEDs, but I just can't be bothered to figure out the whole DIY COB thing right now. Monos are okay alongside other lights. Here's a couple of plants under an 80w Hans panel and a 315w CDM, it was my first run with that setup and due to different things I had to delay flowering and ended up with long ass plants, always learning.

[edit] and I don't really know what I posted all this for. Friday High.





 
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PhuckDaPoeLease

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whitebb2727 said:
I don't use leafly. It was the first one I clicked.

Light does make a plant grow but evaporates terpenes. They smell more at lights off. Its the reason to chop right before lights on. I wouldn't go over bore like some but sometimes will extend the dark period some right before I chop. I don't claim it to make them swell more or anything like that, just more terpenes.

Also the starches are in the root zone and allows for a better cure.


We are good. No harm, no foul. Just a friendly debate.
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You must not have the pure uv bulbs then. What you say, is impossible to do, without killing them.
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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I have a Blu Bonic Mom and Male I keep around.I pollinate the keeper strains with Him.I get low 30's on percentage from Her also.So many strains though.I have some other awesome crosses that I'm supposed to be testing, I seriously need minions.
 
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